Taking the Brexit

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2019 13:43

Whatever happens there'll be rioting in the streets.

No win situation.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2019 14:08

In for rioting.

Add it to gazchaps calendar please

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Rioting? In Cheshire? With YOUR reputation?

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Warhead wrote:

Rioting? In Cheshire? With YOUR reputation?

The streets will run bronze with spray-tan.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Warhead wrote:

Rioting? In Cheshire? With YOUR reputation?

Mali is lying to you, he lives in Liverpool

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2019 20:15

Sony are leaving the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-46968720

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Doesn't someone here or a family member of someone here work for Sony, in the PS bit?

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Cras wrote:

Doesn't someone here or a family member of someone here work for Sony, in the PS bit?

I've got a PS4.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Cras wrote:

Doesn't someone here or a family member of someone here work for Sony, in the PS bit?

I have an acquaintance who used to, if that’s perhaps who you’re thinking of. He was an SRE type. That’s pretty tenuous though.

Four_Candles · **Joined:** 27th Sep, 2009 **Posts:** 876

This may shock some of you, but there's a really good Brexit article in the Mirror.

'Brexit has already been cancelled - and here's why they're not telling you'

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-13896286

Do give it a read, it's very good, but if you want to avoid all of the annoying pop-ups make sure you have an adblocker installed.

Malc · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2019 23:40

Cras wrote:

Doesn't someone here or a family member of someone here work for Sony, in the PS bit?

My brother works for Sony. He works in the music bit though.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

Four_Candles wrote:

This may shock some of you, but there's a really good Brexit article in the Mirror.

'Brexit has already been cancelled - and here's why they're not telling you'

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-13896286

Do give it a read, it's very good, but if you want to avoid all of the annoying pop-ups make sure you have an adblocker installed.

I use brave browser on my phone, so I don't have to worry about pop-ups, even then that site is hideous. Had to read the article in about half an inch of screen space, as no way I was pressing yes to cookies, and pressing manage had about a thousand I had to turn off individually, with no global turn off button. I thought not having a turn them all off button was against gdpr these days?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38460

All of the Mirror Group websites are the same. Awful

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2019 0:48

Cras wrote:

Doesn't someone here or a family member of someone here work for Sony, in the PS bit?

Francis, who you met at my 50th, has a daughter who works for Sony in the PS bit. Hat tip to doccyG who apparently wasn’t that drunk yet complained of a significant hangover and doesn’t remember this conversation.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

It was Francis! Yes!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Ah! Yes. Ahem.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:59

Four_Candles wrote:

but if you want to avoid all of the annoying pop-ups make sure you have an adblocker installed.

Not for long, huh Google huh huh?

Gits.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:19

I must have been wasted, don't remember your 50th at all!

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Heh.

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Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

This is a good article I think.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 40526.html

Quote:

The British public still have no idea what they voted for with Brexit – it’s not elitist to admit it

Inviting a largely uninformed public to make a judgement on something as unfathomably complex as EU membership was akin to asking a six-year-old to perform brain surgery – with a crayon

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Holy crap.

https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/statu ... 9652572160

James Delingpoleâ€™s humiliatingly clueless performance on #thisweek is the best ever advert for avoiding a no-deal Brexit.pic.twitter.com/ZwyenfBFke
— James Melville (@JamesMelville) January 25, 2019

Nik · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1982

Jesus fucking Christ.

Has there been a substantial defence of Brexit from anyone who isn't a moron?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jan 25, 2019 15:33

*checks notes*

...er, no.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Everything is dead everywhere.

http://politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/01/25/ ... everywhere

Quote:

Wherever you look, the same godawful spectacle. People with no imagination, repeating the same ideas which didn't work last time. The same old misplaced fears, about the same old referendum result. The same shocking degree of irresponsibility from Cabinet ministers. It's like watching a video of muddy water swirl down a drain, every hour of every day, for months on end.

Even an election wouldn't sort this out. What would be the Tory policy? May's deal or no-deal? It wouldn't make any difference. You couldn't get her MPs on side for either. So even if she got a majority, which she probably wouldn't, she still couldn't pass her bill. Corbyn's Brexit policy is just as demented as hers, but even more vague. Even if he got a majority, he'd be in the same position. An election solves nothing.

There is no fire escape. We are trapped in unconscionable circumstances by people who were warned that this would happen and did it anyway.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

So the actual, official government plan is to ask the EU to do the thing they've explicitly said they won't do about a million times.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47024450

We're literally just a toddler stamping its feet at the moment.

Still, at least we won't run out of food or anything.

Oh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

All of the crap from Project Fear is irrelevant. An ex-colleague of mine explains it thus, 'Primarily the issue at stake is accountability of politics to the electorate. The EU institutionalises the disenfranchisement of politics from the electorate and leaving the EU offers the chance to reverse rather than progress that process.' Some other ex-colleagues continually argue with him, citing the possible and actual consequences of Brexit, but his stock reply is that the electorate have spoken and that should be the end of it, regardless of the consequences. He was an opinionated twat when I worked with him and still is.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5152

Some knob interviewed on the bbc news was saying that food shortages will be good for us!

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Blitz spirit! We've seen the Germans off twice before! 1966! Etc!

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1089940314591281153

Am seeing yet more talk of the "blitz spirit" that will get us through no deal Brexit. I would love to have seen the atmosphere in those air raid shelters if half the people down there had voted for the blitz and the other half hadn't...
— Tom Peck (@tompeck) January 28, 2019

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Warhead wrote:

All of the crap from Project Fear is irrelevant. An ex-colleague of mine explains it thus, 'Primarily the issue at stake is accountability of politics to the electorate. The EU institutionalises the disenfranchisement of politics from the electorate and leaving the EU offers the chance to reverse rather than progress that process.' Some other ex-colleagues continually argue with him, citing the possible and actual consequences of Brexit, but his stock reply is that the electorate have spoken and that should be the end of it, regardless of the consequences. He was an opinionated twat when I worked with him and still is.

Was he a QS by any chance?

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 28, 2019 20:44

Prioritising medicines over food is wrong. Holding back on medicines will ease pressure on the food supply.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Jan 28, 2019 20:44

Hearthly wrote:

Still, at least we won't run out of food or anything.

Oh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748

Heh.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5152

MaliA wrote:

Hearthly wrote:

Still, at least we won't run out of food or anything.

Oh.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748

Heh.

Pah, experts. What do they know?

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Warhead wrote:

All of the crap from Project Fear is irrelevant. An ex-colleague of mine explains it thus, 'Primarily the issue at stake is accountability of politics to the electorate. The EU institutionalises the disenfranchisement of politics from the electorate and leaving the EU offers the chance to reverse rather than progress that process.' Some other ex-colleagues continually argue with him, citing the possible and actual consequences of Brexit, but his stock reply is that the electorate have spoken and that should be the end of it, regardless of the consequences. He was an opinionated twat when I worked with him and still is.

Was he a QS by any chance?

We didn't have any quantity surveyors in our department.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:13

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1089940314591281153

I'm starting to think that we can blame all of this on the obsession in the early 2010s for 'Keep Calm and Carry on' tea towels.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Ian Dunt gets quite frustrated sometimes. Entirely understandably.

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Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Decent analysis of the stupidity of the 'BIG PLAN' they're cooking up in parliament.

https://twitter.com/awstojanovic/status ... 8198082560

So what does the new'better deal for Brexit' say? It's clear the authors don't understand that the backstop is meant to be an insurance policy in the event of no deal. In their world the EU will agree a mutual recognition nirvana, with no UK obligations https://t.co/fV0T7U3JIw 1/ https://t.co/GvzOxFadoG
— Alex Stojanovic (@awstojanovic) December 13, 2018

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:41

I'm going to the pictures tonight so will miss all the Parliamentary fireworks.

I'm not going to read yesterday's immigration bill debate. The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Kern wrote:

The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

This, but for basically everything that has happened in the last two-and-a-bit years.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:55

Shower of shit the lot of them.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22270

I know it's not comparable in scale and effect, and i'm invoking Godwin, but I never understood how a country could have such mad hysteria to go along with the whole Hitler/Nazi thing.
I now have a bit of understanding how a lot of the public can support something that should be obviously completely bat-shit crazy, and how that can come about.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:58

Apologies for the lack of more constructive or insightful comments. I think Mr Dunt has articulated my current feelings better than I can today.

In the inevitable point-and-click adventure of the Brexit affair (forthcoming from Lucasarts , 2022 - full talkie on CDROM), he'll be in an NPC in a bar with a badge saying 'Ask me about WTO schedules'.

devilman · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:59

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Kern wrote:

The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

This, but for basically everything that has happened in the last two-and-a-bit years.

When I get a YouGov survey thing through that asks 'If there was a General Election tomorrow, who would you vote for?', I'm still ticking Labour, but really not sure why anymore

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:59

Trooper wrote:

I know it's not comparable in scale and effect, and i'm invoking Godwin, but I never understood how a country could have such mad hysteria to go along with the whole Hitler/Nazi thing.
I now have a bit of understanding how a lot of the public can support something that should be obviously completely bat-shit crazy, and how that can come about.

Societies, constitutions, institutions only really become interesting when they're breaking down. The last five years will keep PhD candidates in theses for a very long time...

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38460

Kern wrote:

Trooper wrote:

I know it's not comparable in scale and effect, and i'm invoking Godwin, but I never understood how a country could have such mad hysteria to go along with the whole Hitler/Nazi thing.
I now have a bit of understanding how a lot of the public can support something that should be obviously completely bat-shit crazy, and how that can come about.

Societies, constitutions, institutions only really become interesting when they're breaking down. The last five years will keep PhD candidates in theses for a very long time...

In European universities, presumably.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:19

In a few years' time, once the UK dissolves and the new government of the New Heptarchy moves away from London to start afresh, tourists will walk through the preserved remains of Westminister and Whitehall, and sometimes hear wailing from a sidestreet of non-descript boarded-up terrace houses . Some say that within one of them is Theresa May, still in her £1,000 trousers, begging for another vote on her deal.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

£1000 trahziz? Doesn’t stop her looking like she’s been dressed by a trainee window dresser on their first day.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16559

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Kern wrote:

The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

This, but for basically everything that has happened in the last two-and-a-bit years.

If ever there was a job where people can usually get through on bluff and bluster whilst actually having zero knowledge or expertise then it's politics. Got fucking found out, the lot of them.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

markg wrote:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Kern wrote:

The whole thing, including Labour's behaviour on this, disgusts me.

This, but for basically everything that has happened in the last two-and-a-bit years.

If ever there was a job where people can usually get through on bluff and bluster whilst actually having zero knowledge or expertise then it's politics. Got fucking found out, the lot of them.

Well, it doesn't seem to have done them much harm so far, though. They're all still fucking there.

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