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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:55 
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I was wondering if there was a label worse than 'Thatcher's Children' and, well, there's my answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:13 
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MaliA's crew.


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Maliexit


He sends 350 million pictures of Julia Bradbury a week. Let's send them to the NHS instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He sends 350 million pictures of Julia Bradbury a week. Let's send them to the NHS instead.

Who’s Julia Bradbury?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Only Mali knows. Some kind of Bradford celeb, I'm guessing.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:11 
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Mr Corbyn is accepting a customs union. No doubt this was sold to him as a chance to cause chaos for the Tories rather than acting on the country's best interests, but is a welcome step in the right direction.

Meanwhile, David Davis needs to read up on projection:

BBC wrote:
Meanwhile, Brexit Secretary David Davis has accused Mr Corbyn of selling "snake oil".


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:44 
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Barry Gardiner was, once again, useless on R4 talking about this . Wholly unconvincing.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:59 
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Barry Gardiner was, once again, useless on R4 talking about this . Wholly unconvincing.


I'm actually not feeling like I'm missing out on much now I don't listen to 'Today' as much as in the past.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:02 
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As for politicians, I would actually be happier if my MP had been a lifelong Eurosceptic, rather than a Tory who just switched sides for the sake of her political career. At least in the former case, they actually believe in what they are doing and I could have a clear basis for an argument rather than vacuous statements from the party PR office.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:37 
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The SNP led a pretty daming debate on DExEU's affairs yesterday. The Tories didn't really bother to reply.

Tommy Shepperd gave a riveting speech. I wonder if this part is accurate:

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This must be the only Department in history that underspends its budget not by a couple of percentage points, but by 50% in its first year, and it has had to go to the Treasury to scale down its estimates of spending in the next financial year.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 15:31 
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Guardian (and everyone else):
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Foreign secretary compares crossing Irish border to travelling from Westminster to Camden


Did he just watch 'Passport to Pimlico'? It's been on my list for ages, but then 'the Napoleon of Notting Hill' is as close to a personal political manifesto that I've come.

If we ignore Mr Johnson, will he go away?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 23:00 
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Jesus shitting Christ

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... t-11270041

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Boris Johnson appears to have told the Prime Minister "it is wrong to see the task as maintaining 'no border'" on the island of Ireland after Brexit - and that the Government's task will be to "stop this border becoming significantly harder".

The major leak from the Cabinet's Brexit deliberations on the highly contentious Irish border is included in a letter passed to Sky News.

Its revelation has prompted calls for Theresa May to consider the position of her Foreign Secretary.

Writing to the Prime Minister, Mr Johnson also seeks to play down the "exaggerated impression" of "how important checks are" at EU external borders.

He also goes as far as contemplating a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, writing: "Even if a hard border is reintroduced, we would expect to see 95% + of goods pass the border [without] checks."


It suggests a significant downgrading of expectations about the change to the Irish border as a result of the Government's Brexit strategy and Mrs May's plan to leave the EU's single market and customs union.

As recently as November last year, the Foreign Secretary told the House of Commons: "There can be no return to a hard border. There can be no hard border.

"That would be unthinkable, and it would be economic and political madness".

In February 2016, ahead of the EU referendum, Mr Johnson promised the Irish border would be "absolutely unchanged".


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Boris Johnson is like a shady used car dealer who has somehow managed to ascend to a position of actual power and influence.

It's shocking that May is so weak she can't sack him.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:19 
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He's always putting these things out just before a major announcement, presumably to show to the true hardcore believers that he's still on their side, isn't selling out, and waiting to become PM. I think he's started to privately panic that not only is he being found out but becoming more unpopular to non-Brexity types every day. Like Mr Trump, not being liked is even worse than not being talked about.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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In other Brexit news, their Lordships debated the Haulage Permits and Trailer Registration Bill , essentially an emergency piece of legislation to ensure that trucks can still enter and leave the UK after the Glorious Day*. Or, in other words, yet another piece of complex stuff nobody thought would be an issue until we started trying to untangle ourselves. Happily, or as happily as is possible under the circumstances, British and Irish trucks moving between the two countries will be exempt to avoid a border. It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.


*Gloriousness subject to change.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:10 
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It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.

Hello! Wotcha, me old china!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm now picturing Boris Johnson and Liam Fox demonstrating their vision for Ireland's future by dressing as leprechauns and hopping backwards and forwards across the border.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:43 
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I'm now picturing Boris Johnson and Liam Fox demonstrating their vision for Ireland's future by dressing as leprechauns and hopping backwards and forwards across the border.

"I'm catholic! Now I'm a protestant! Now Catholic! Now Protestant!"

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Big snows in Camden right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 19:54 
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What is it about Tories that once they leave office they become reasonable people, even, in the case of Michael Portillo, candidates for national treasurehood?

Anyway, Sir John Major's speech today is well-worth reading in full.

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I fear we will be weaker and less prosperous – as a country and as individuals. And – although it grieves me to admit it – our divorce from Europe will diminish our international stature. Indeed, it already has.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Because they're no longer beholden to the right wing of their party, or the Murdoch/Dacre press.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Couldn't be bothered to listen to the Prime Minister's speech today. Ian Dunt has summarised it for us:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/969584554599157761




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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Twitter is the worst medium for long text posts. It's like texting a novel.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Vine wants a chat.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Grim... wrote:
Vine wants a chat.


Perhaps there's a reason it doesn't exist any more? Also, it's not like anyone ever tried to have a serious discussion on Vine.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 17:16 
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Allow me to hedge my bet...

Twitter is a pretty bad way of presenting a long text post


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Vine wants a chat.

There was some amazing Vine content, mainly from people of colour.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Why were they making long text posts on Vine?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Feex.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Here's Mr Dunt's article on it all.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Beautiful

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Wait, why didn't that expand?

[edit] Oh, because Mali :)

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Superb!

That's an appalling piece of set design.


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It looks like my first attempts at designing Doom levels.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Democracy is broken. Parliament is an insane point-scoring shouting house populated by idiots and lunatics. That this statement from IDS raised cheers and laughs is conclusive evidence that we should just burn the whole rotten edifice to the ground and just put MaliA in charge, like we should have from the start.

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/970693424381751296




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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Hey, do you like the fact you don’t pay for roaming charges in Europe? Tough. They’re coming back.

https://twitter.com/alanferrier/status/ ... 0384606209




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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I sometimes kid myself that this all part of Mrs May's secret plan, and that her aim is to crash the country so badly by Brexit that we come begging for her to lead us back in, like pulling back the joystick just as the plane is about to hit the ground in the films. Then I realise that that would show a degree of political imagination and statecraft that she's never demonstrated, and we're just blundering into disaster.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Did you see the stuff about the US airline deal? Another little taster of how we’re going to get pantsed by all the bigger boys in the schoolyard.

https://www.ft.com/content/9461157c-1f9 ... d3483b8b80

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The US is offering Britain a worse “Open Skies” deal after Brexit than it had as an EU member, in a negotiating stance that would badly hit the transatlantic operating rights of British Airways and Virgin Atlantic.

British and American negotiators secretly met in January for the first formal talks on a new air services deal, aiming to fill the gap created when Britain falls out of the EU-US open skies treaty after Brexit, according to people familiar with talks.

In a sign of the battle Britain faces to replicate its existing rights, the talks were cut short after US negotiators offered standard bilateral conditions that would reduce access and in effect exclude all main UK-based carriers because they would not meet the criteria for ownership and control.

One person attending the London meetings to “put Humpty Dumpty back together” said: “You can’t just scratch out ‘EU’ and put in ‘UK’.” A British official said it showed “the squeeze” London will face as it tries to reconstruct its international agreements after Brexit, even with close allies such as Washington.

Negotiators are confident of an eventual agreement to keep open the busy UK-US routes, which account for more than a third of current transatlantic flight traffic. But there are legal and political obstacles that could impede the two sides from reaching a deal in time to give legal certainty to airlines booking flights a year in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Maybe that’s just biased bluster, though, from the swivel-eyed lefty loons at the Finacial Times (subs please check.)


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I don't get the pink 'un so missed that. Utterly unsurprising, given the really weak position we're in. And to think the Tories criticise Jeremy Corbyn for wanting to sacrifice the country's wellbeing at the altar of ideology. But hey, the Open Skies agreement was good while it lasted, eh?

I'd write another letter to my MP but I've just managed to stop myself from doing one about the Irish border and I fear I was placed in her staff's angry crank list a long time ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It’s a rare FT story that lies outside the paywall too.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Did you see the stuff about the US airline deal? Another little taster of how we’re going to get pantsed by all the bigger boys in the schoolyard.


Going through Schipol or Dublin is often cheaper, and the latter has the benefit of US immigration before you leave, but I hate changing planes so have never done that.

Still, just the time for Mr Trump to start a trade war when we're begging for a good deal from them.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Another little taster of how we’re going to get pantsed by all the bigger boys in the schoolyard.


If only those screaming at remainers for lacking patriotism would stop and notice how diminished our country's becoming because of all this.


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It’s a rare FT story that lies outside the paywall too.

It doesn’t. You can defeat it by googling the headline and using the Amp link.


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It’s a rare FT story that lies outside the paywall too.

It doesn’t. You can defeat it by googling the headline and using the Amp link.


The Maginot Paywall.


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