Taking the Brexit

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:59

Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Curiosity wrote:

Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn.

Presumably because the markets fear a cliff edge, so every bit of news that nudges us closer to a deal is good news.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:49

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn.

Presumably because the markets fear a cliff edge, so every bit of news that nudges us closer to a deal is good news.

Absolutely this, it’s just funny how it works.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:52

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... r-a-barrel

Well, this neatly sums up the shit we're in.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Nov 29, 2017 13:05

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

omg

https://advisa.se/en/research/brexit-bus/

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:09

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

omg

https://advisa.se/en/research/brexit-bus/

Next challenge

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38460

God save us all.

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:15

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I was disappointed that there wasn't a cliff at the end.

krazywookie · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20

Mine crashed in may '17

If only.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

66 seconds.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Nah, 53 seconds.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

It took me multiple attempts just to get past May's election...

...AND IN THE GAME TOO

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 13:20

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The bus ended up a little worse for wear.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:13

53 seconds is my best.

Jem · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:20

I got to 79 :attitude:

devilman · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:34

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Slight improvement.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

devilman wrote:

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The bus ended up a little worse for wear.

Eat my ... oh bollocks.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

38 seconds. No one else play this from hereon in. Thanks.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:45

Slow work day?

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:47

Just got a 48. Hmmm.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Lonewolves wrote:

Slow work day?

I’m still poorly.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:53

I just got 48s three times in a row. :'(

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 17:01

Not sure I can do much better than this.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 17:05

Ok cool.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 17:23

Call it a draw?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Huh, if that proves anything it's how much quicker the new version of Firefox is (in this specific application at least). I played this initially at home on the new souped-up Firefox and it was fine but here at work on the shitty old ESR version it's awful.

Malc · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 17:53

Quote:

DUP MP Sammy Wilson has warned that his party's deal to support the Conservative government could be jeopardised by the Brexit negotiations.
He said any attempt to "placate Dublin and the EU" could mean a withdrawal of DUP support at Westminster.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42179387

Quote:

Mr Wilson said his party will be "making clear to the government we have a confidence and supply arrangement with them".
The East Antrim MP added that "if there is any hint that in order to placate Dublin and the EU, they're prepared to have Northern Ireland treated differently than the rest of the UK, then they can't rely on our vote".
He added: "They have to recognise that if this is about treating Northern Ireland differently, or leaving us half in the EU, dragging along behind regulations which change in Dublin, it's not on."

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Lonewolves wrote:

Call it a draw?

NEVER. Everyone knows that in the event of a draw the person who got the score first is the ultimate winnah.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 18:21

Satsuma wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Call it a draw?

NEVER. Everyone knows that in the event of a draw the person who got the score first is the ultimate winnah.

Tell that to every sport in history.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Lonewolves wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Call it a draw?

NEVER. Everyone knows that in the event of a draw the person who got the score first is the ultimate winnah.

Tell that to every sport in history.

This isn’t a sport. It’s a leaderboard for a video game.

AND I AM MR WINNAH MAN. (Shabba)

myp · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 19:36

It's not, it's a satirical take on the clusterfuck that is Brexit in a Trials fashion, there are no winners.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2017 22:57

Lonewolves wrote:

It's not, it's a satirical take on the clusterfuck that is Brexit in a Trials fashion, there are no winners.

Except for Ian. Who is winnar.

devilman · **Posted:** Sat Dec 02, 2017 0:07

Unplayed Switch games and I'm still dipping back into a silly browser game.

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(I should have probably displayed f.lux before taking the screenshot)

myp · **Posted:** Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:52

Looks like Ian isn't the winnah after all

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Aww, we’re sorry Devilman, entries closed on Friday at midnight. Looks like I’m still Mr Winnah Man. (Shabba)

Myp is second.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6512

I'm a long way from being an expert here, but I really don't see how any deal on the Irish border can simultaneously be acceptable to the Republic, the press / Hard Brexitish MPs, and the DUP. Someone is going get pissed off, which will either mean talks stalling, or there being a pretty good chance of the government collapsing.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:41

Squirt wrote:

I'm a long way from being an expert here, but I really don't see how any deal on the Irish border can simultaneously be acceptable to the Republic, the press / Hard Brexitish MPs, and the DUP. Someone is going get pissed off, which will either mean talks stalling, or there being a pretty good chance of the government collapsing.

Strong and stable.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:43

Squirt wrote:

I'm a long way from being an expert here, but I really don't see how any deal on the Irish border can simultaneously be acceptable to the Republic, the press / Hard Brexitish MPs, and the DUP. Someone is going get pissed off, which will either mean talks stalling, or there being a pretty good chance of the government collapsing.

It's simply amazing how ill thought out and half arsed this whole thing is, and I'm amazed on a daily basis that presins whom I thought vaguely competent can continue down this car crash of a path. It, surely, must end soon.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:56

MaliA wrote:

Squirt wrote:

I'm a long way from being an expert here, but I really don't see how any deal on the Irish border can simultaneously be acceptable to the Republic, the press / Hard Brexitish MPs, and the DUP. Someone is going get pissed off, which will either mean talks stalling, or there being a pretty good chance of the government collapsing.

It's simply amazing how ill thought out and half arsed this whole thing is, and I'm amazed on a daily basis that presins whom I thought vaguely competent can continue down this car crash of a path. It, surely, must end soon.

Very much this. It's even more frustrating that all this damage is being done to keep the Tory party together and Mrs May in power, rather than attempt to find a broad consensus. I know the Tories tend to delude themselves into thinking that what is good for the party is good for the country, but by pressing for the hardest Brexit possible so she can keep the right-wing obsessives on side, she's caused immense damage.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:58

Kern, in May 2015 wrote:

Necessity
Yes, long overdue. Should have had one over Lisbon, frankly. For too long the EU has been an elitist project, and the public tend to be excluded and alienated from the communnity. I think the public are smart enough to decide on whether they are happy with the set-up or if we should bid a fond adieu.

I still agree with most of this. The whole EU question had been pushed away for far too long and we should have been debating and discussing our role in the world and the organisation for years. I just wasn't expecting the campaign to be so dire. Serves me right for choosing to suppress memories of the AV vote.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Squirt wrote:

I'm a long way from being an expert here, but I really don't see how any deal on the Irish border can simultaneously be acceptable to the Republic, the press / Hard Brexitish MPs, and the DUP. Someone is going get pissed off, which will either mean talks stalling, or there being a pretty good chance of the government collapsing.

It does seem to be an entirely unfixable problem. No customs union means a hard border, and Irish/Norn Irish politics can't accept a hard border.

And the government seem to be trying to ignore it.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:08

Cras wrote:

It does seem to be an entirely unfixable problem. No customs union means a hard border, and Irish/Norn Irish politics can't accept a hard border.

And the government seem to be trying to ignore it.

It does show up how little most people in Britain, including those in government, think about that part of the Union. I think post-Good Friday most people saw the problem as 'solved' and went back to not really caring about it.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Very good, but depressing, blog post I read over the weekend on how the Brexit position on the NI border is a fact-free quagmire: http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co. ... h.html?m=1

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

I have people who work for me who commute over the border. They are understandably concerned.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Hah! Amazingly pithy. Hard to refute though.

https://twitter.com/leighblue/status/937621794969747456

The government has simultaneously caved to the EU

Quote:
@njstone9 @nickhoddinott @davidallengreen The government has simultaneously caved to the EU’s discipline and the hard Brexiters’ political noisemaking. Quite a feat. No wonder they’re in trouble.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6512

This is the first real time the UK is actually going to have to come up with a concrete position, with all the technical details ready.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

European editor for RTE, the Irish national broadcaster (and presumably trustworthy):
https://twitter.com/tconnellyRTE/status ... 5467986944

BREAKING: UK will concede that there will be no "regulatory divergence" on the island of Ireland on the single market and customs union, acc to a draft text seen by @rtenews
— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) December 4, 2017

Quote:

BREAKING: UK will concede that there will be no "regulatory divergence" on the island of Ireland on the single market and customs union, acc to a draft text seen by @rtenews

So a hard border between NI and the rUK, if true. Good luck getting the DUP to swallow that.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6512

Huh, a customs border between two parts of the same country is a bit special. I wonder if that's happened before?

devilman · **Posted:** Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:36

With this whole mess, I really thought I'd see more comments from people who voted for Brexit who have since their minds, based on what they've seen following the referendum. However, I guess those who weren't paying attention at the time, still aren't paying attention, and still think everything is going to be wonderful. I've still yet to see one positive reason to leave.

At some point, I'll end up asking my boss if he would still vote leave, given a second chance, but I suspect I'll be disappointed by his answer. He voted leave as a protest against the government - I think he's a UKIPper.

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