Taking the Brexit

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Kern wrote:

The Guardian has a useful guide to the night's events.

Even reading that made me feel nervous. I really should leave the Internet for the day, but it's sweet, sweet data and opinion distributing powers keep pulling me back.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

That's a good link, and makes sense to me that it's easier to get up early rather than stay up late.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02

The polling station was empty this morning. Drove right up to it, walked in, voted, left. Took 30 seconds.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Lonewolves wrote:

The polling station was empty this morning. Drove right up to it, walked in, voted, left. Took 30 seconds.

Took longer than that for them to look up our voter numbers, but voting's always a painless process in my experience. I love doing it!

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Yeah, but Maria organised that, surely

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:06

Mr Russell wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Yeah, but Maria organised that, surely

Good point.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:08

Mr Russell wrote:

voting's always a painless process in my experience. I love doing it!

This. It's a form of civil ritual and I always pause for a moment to reflect on how important and symbolic what I'm about to do is before I put pencil to paper and draw a dinosaur make my choice.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:25

Lonewolves wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Yeah, but Maria organised that, surely

Good point.

I wonder if Maria would be able to arrange that game that Curio promised to send me?

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:26

Apparently the headline of 'Bild' (Germany's version of 'The Sun', but with more tits) today is:
'Stay in and we'll finally accept that goal'.

EDIT

Reddit source

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Public transport in London is fucked by floods today.

Positive - People who can't get to work are more likely to go to their local polling station. London is a remain town so this helps.

Negative - People in Kent can't get to work in London either. Hopefully it will just keep raining there.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

The problem is if people get in to work, don't vote in the morning, and then can't get back home.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

Mimi wrote:

The problem is if people get in to work, don't vote in the morning, and then can't get back home.

That's more likely to be a problem for the good people of Kent, so not so much of a problem

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Poor people of Kent, and Kentish people.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:40

A leave friend of mine has just posted the opening lines of the colonials' declaration of independence on sinister Facebook:

Quote:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Say what you like about Jean-Claude Juncker but I think I'd prefer him to mad King George anyday. Although I must have been away when they broke away from debates over kettles to arrange this:

Quote:

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:46

Mr Russell wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Yeah, but Maria organised that, surely

Actually I managed it and she ballsed hers up!

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Curiosity wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Mimi wrote:

It's a bit of a pain that the referendum vote has come at the same time as Glstonbury. I don't believe for one second that everyone who might otherwise have voted has arranged for postal or proxy votes.

If Curio has done it then I am confident everybody else has managed it.

Yeah, but Maria organised that, surely

Actually I managed it and she ballsed hers up!

I take it all back!

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:53

Kern wrote:

A leave friend of mine has just posted the opening lines of the colonials' declaration of independence on sinister Facebook:

Quote:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Say what you like about Jean-Claude Juncker but I think I'd prefer him to mad King George anyday. Although I must have been away when they broke away from debates over kettles to arrange this:

Quote:

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

It's not even anywhere near analogous, let's be honest.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

If this story is real it is golden.

Brexit supporters urged to take own pens to polling station amid fears of MI5 conspiracy

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

I think 90% of #usepens is taking the piss out of crazy conspiracy theorists who actually think vote rigging would be done by rubbing out ballots and changing the vote. But those people are out there.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Mimi wrote:

If this story is real it is golden.

Brexit supporters urged to take own pens to polling station amid fears of MI5 conspiracy

It is somewhat real (mixed in with pisstaking as Cras says), and it was a thing during the Scottish referendum too.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:04

Cras wrote:

I think 90% of #usepens is taking the piss out of crazy conspiracy theorists who actually think vote rigging would be done by rubbing out ballots and changing the vote. But those people are out there.

It's typical reactionary conspiracy theory nonsense like white genocide. It really shows a bizarre kind of mindset.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

I don't know, Craster. I've just searched on Teitter and there are an awful lot of people urging everyone to rake owns. I didn't see a single one who appeared to be joking.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

I made sure I raked my owns before I went out.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:06

Mimi wrote:

I don't know, Craster. I've just searched on Teitter and there are an awful lot of people urging everyone to rake owns. I didn't see a single one who appeared to be joking.

I'm not sure how owning a rake will stop electoral fraud.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

Mimi wrote:

I don't know, Craster. I've just searched on Teitter and there are an awful lot of people urging everyone to rake owns. I didn't see a single one who appeared to be joking.

Typical Tietter. Obsessed with raking owns.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Lonewolves wrote:

Cras wrote:

I think 90% of #usepens is taking the piss out of crazy conspiracy theorists who actually think vote rigging would be done by rubbing out ballots and changing the vote. But those people are out there.

It's typical reactionary conspiracy theory nonsense like white genocide. It really shows a bizarre kind of mindset.

Black pens, white genocide. It's pretty much the same thing. :DD

Have these people never voted before? I don't think I have ever seen anything other than a pencil in a polling booth. It's not like they've introduced them for this vite alone.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

When I saw the polling clerk writing down all our voting numbers in pencil my first thought was "that'll go really blunt soon!"

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

DavPaz wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I don't know, Craster. I've just searched on Teitter and there are an awful lot of people urging everyone to rake owns. I didn't see a single one who appeared to be joking.

Typical Tietter. Obsessed with raking owns.

THAT'S RIGHT, take the piss out of my disabled finger and phone.

Tech.

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:13

Cras wrote:

I think 90% of #usepens is taking the piss out of crazy conspiracy theorists who actually think vote rigging would be done by rubbing out ballots and changing the vote. But those people are out there.

Perhaps one for the legal eagles, but isn't a document only considered legal if it's signed in pen rather than pencil so that it can't be amended?

I may have made that up or it might be an old wives tale (and I know not really what you were talking about, but could still be relevant here).

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

A ballot isn't a contract

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Neither is a kiss.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

But it's very nice.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:16

Not from a rose

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:21

Cras wrote:

A ballot isn't a contract

No, I was talking more about general legal documents.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Goddess Jasmine wrote:

Cras wrote:

A ballot isn't a contract

No, I was talking more about general legal documents.

I think there's a whole thing about it being blue ink as well so you can see which is the original and which is the photocopy.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:25

The only signatures required by law are a transfer of real property, stocks, shares, maritime insurance and the other thing. And deeds.

If memory serves.

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

If I was MI5, and I'm not (honest), I would rig a vote by having pre-made voting forms with crosses on them, and simply swap nab the box and swap them out.

(You can't swap out a box with a box pre-stuffed, unfortunately, as then you'll have vote-ids in there that didn't vote, which is SUSPICIOUS)

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:27

MaliA wrote:

The only signatures required by law are a transfer of real property, stocks, shares, maritime insurance and the other thing. And deeds.

If memory serves.

Fair enough, maybe I'm thinking of documents accepted by the court or something. Never mind.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Pod wrote:

If I was MI5, and I'm not (honest), I would rig a vote by having pre-made voting forms with crosses on them, and simply swap nab the box and swap them out.

(You can't swap out a box with a box pre-stuffed, unfortunately, as then you'll have vote-ids in there that didn't vote, which is SUSPICIOUS)

Not if you swap out the list of who voted on which ballot paper, too.

TheVision · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:53

I signed for a delivery with pencil this morning.

Do I win £5?

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Someone I know has taken this picture of their polling station, and are questioning if it's allowed as there's an argument to be made that it might not be seen as politically neutral.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

Yeah given that Leave are the ones wrapping themselves in the flag more often it does seem a bit dodgy.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Yes, I agree. It might be different if Leave hadn't pretty much Druzes it as a symbol of their campaign.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 13:10

Just making up words, now.

Jem · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 13:10

I don't see the polling station. Didn't label it very well, did they.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 13:11

The Remain side are also using patriotic colours. I'm more disappointed by the lack of EU flags on the material they sent me or thrust into my hands on street corners.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3214

I agree with exactly the smurf sentiment expressed above. Smurf!

myp · **Posted:** Thu Jun 23, 2016 13:14

Speaking of exercising my democratic right, when are the next mod elections?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

April 2015, I think.

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