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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:27 
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I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:34 
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I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.

Extremely undignified

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 8:35 
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C'mon Kern you've been doing this Brexit stuff for long enough now, the golden rule is to never, ever, ask anyone what the fuck it is they're actually talking about, and everything will be fine!

I'm still looking forward to my 'red, white and blue Brexit', because it sounds splendid.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:00 
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One thing that really annoys me is that he made such a big deal about the Labour Party being more democratic and giving power to the members. Then the second the members want something he doesn’t, he just ignores them entirely.


The thing is though, if Labour suddenly switched to backing Remain then a fairly large proportion of Labour voters would bleed off to vote for Farage's Brexit Party, so giving more power to Farage. And who, in their right mind, wants that?

I say this as a Remainer.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It doesn't work like that. If you pander to a racist economy-destroying policy in order to avoid losing supporters to racists, then you're just the racist economy-destroying party

"Let's not lose votes to Farage" is the worst political race to the bottom since "let's not upset the nice German chancellor with the paintings".

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.

Extremely undignified

You’ll do great, then.

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I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.


Jobs disappear first. Then the food.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Kern wrote:
I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.


Jobs disappear first. Then the food.


Other way around mate.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 9:38 
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I'm eager to hear what a 'jobs-first Brexit' looks like.


Jobs disappear first. Then the food.


Other way around mate.

Did you just make a poo joke?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Anyway, we’ll be fine. We’ll all be employed in the turnip fields to grow the turnips we’ll live on and then there will be a few celebrities who develop turnip recipes which the whole town will gather around the wireless to listen to and try to remember, because we’ll have run out of bic biros and they cost £15,000 each. The most exciting recipes use tree bark for texture. They’ll be the good days.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I realised while watching QT last night (I know I shouldn’t*) that much as we may fantasise about kicking brexit indefinitely into the long grass where it may be forgotten, if it’s still lying there in 2022 there will be a general election (or earlier of course).

With the Farage party currently polling at 28% on the Europeans, that’s not a good thing, even if UKIP never won more than a smattering of seats in the Old World.

*Farage was more Farage than normal, but concerningly the audience was even more sycophantic for his bullshit than normal too.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 17:16 
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Realignment-a-go-go!

If the Tories decide to recapture support by adopting UKIP/Farage Party policies and attitudes, Labour would not benefit from occupying the vacant ground without risking alienating sufficient existing voters who could always go elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 8:52 
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Leafletwatch: got one from the Brexit Party yesterday. I don't think I'm the target demographic.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Leafletwatch: got one from the Brexit Party yesterday. I don't think I'm the target demographic.

I got one a week ago. The only one I’ve had so far. Went straight into recycling.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I’ve had to deliver stuff from the Tories and Change so far. Labour next I think. Plus all the local and European election poll cards

Still, I get 3p per item so it’s not all bad…

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Everyone has a price, mate.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Jem tells me that there was a Brexit Party leaflet posted through yesterday addressed to me. Fortunately, she put it in the bin before I saw it so I didn't have to go anywhere near it.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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poll card, change leaflet and labour leaflet all arrived yesterday.

I want my vote to be a clear and unambiguous vote for remain, that also has some value to it. Not sure what to do to be honest, lib dem, change or green seem like my options?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:37 
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Jem tells me that there was a Brexit Party leaflet posted through yesterday addressed to me. Fortunately, she put it in the bin before I saw it so I didn't have to go anywhere near it.

I had one as well. I’m glad they sent it to me because I am glad that some of the money they have was wasted. Not so happy about the waste of paper. Will be voting Green here.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Jem tells me that there was a Brexit Party leaflet posted through yesterday addressed to me. Fortunately, she put it in the bin before I saw it so I didn't have to go anywhere near it.

I had one as well. I’m glad they sent it to me because I am glad that some of the money they have was wasted. Not so happy about the waste of paper. Will be voting Green here.


First mailshot is taxpayer funded, if memory serves

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Yesterday I had leaflets through from Labour, the Conservatives and the Brexit Party. They all arrived while I was out posting my vote off though, so all pretty pointless. End up going with Lib Dem, but it was either them or the Greens.

However, today I've had a Pizza Hut leaflet through and now want to vote for them instead.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Not sure what to do to be honest, lib dem, change or green seem like my options?


Why not look at which groups the various parties will be joining in the European Parliament and reading the manifestos they offer? I know that treating this as a continental election on EU-wide issues is a bit of a niche approach, but might give you a way to decide.

Alternatively, read up on the top three names on each list and see if you think they would make a good MEP.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 15:16 
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Probably the biggest party in the EU elections folks.....

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might just be because I live in a well run dictatorship, but I'm increasingly coming to the view that democracy is bollocks.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might just be because I live in a well run dictatorship, but I'm increasingly coming to the view that democracy is bollocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might just be because I live in a well run dictatorship, but I'm increasingly coming to the view that democracy is bollocks.


Serious question - and maybe this is just the bleeding obvious - but is that same idea why so many Sci-fi (and fantasy, but it's the sci-fi ones that surprise me) have kings, nobles and the like? It always seems strangely discordant to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Easier to run a huge nation/confederation/galactic empire as a dictatorship, innit? Don't need to wait for elections and such


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Hmm, yeah, that'd be their case. I find Star Trek's Federation, or The Culture, much more tempting, though - they feel like some kind of evolution. Having kings and the like doesn't seem like a gritty recognition of the failings of humans, just a lack of imagination, and a kind of frotting-over-powerful-leaders fantasy.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might just be because I live in a well run dictatorship, but I'm increasingly coming to the view that democracy is bollocks.


Serious question - and maybe this is just the bleeding obvious - but is that same idea why so many Sci-fi (and fantasy, but it's the sci-fi ones that surprise me) have kings, nobles and the like? It always seems strangely discordant to me.

Yeah, it's usually all kicking off, though. Just like it was all the time in the real world when everywhere was run that way.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Easier to run a huge nation/confederation/galactic empire as a dictatorship, innit? Don't need to wait for elections and such

Also note you don't elect military leaders.

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Easier to run a huge nation/confederation/galactic empire as a dictatorship, innit? Don't need to wait for elections and such

Also note you don't elect military leaders.


It's been tried from time to time (eg volunteer units in the early American Civil War or revolutionary Russia) but it doesn't tend to last.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It might just be because I live in a well run dictatorship, but I'm increasingly coming to the view that democracy is bollocks.


What about liberty? Going off that too?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Kern wrote:
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Easier to run a huge nation/confederation/galactic empire as a dictatorship, innit? Don't need to wait for elections and such

Also note you don't elect military leaders.


It's been tried from time to time (eg volunteer units in the early American Civil War or revolutionary Russia) but it doesn't tend to last.


"Doesn't tend to last" is a beautiful implicit threat

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Everyone has a price, mate.


What price dignity, Mop?

Also, can you bin the leaflets and still get paid like we used to on paper rounds as kids?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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BBC: "MPs to vote on withdrawall bill in early June"

Yep, she's trying to break the deadlock by passing the necessary legislation for the withdrawal agreement. I can picture a scenario in which Tories and much of Labour vote for it on second reading, to show they are "getting on with it", prior to savaging it in committee stage and third reading. And then it'd go to the Lords.

Her determination might be admirable, were it not so desperate.


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Her utter unwillingness to consider even the faintest whiff of need for change after so many months is a demonstration of incompetence for the ages.


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You can watch a debate between the parties' candidates for Commission President on BBC Parliament starting at 20:00 tonight if you want. No, I want be doing a snarky tweet-along. That was yesterday. No hard metal sex dungeon either. I think.


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I'm just going to vote for the green party. Hopefully a few other people will and if nothing else it might push the imminent death of the planet up the agenda a bit amongst all the other far more important issues.


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Matt Hancock says that a general election would risk "killing Brexit altogether" (BBC). Er, people changing their mind on things is kind of how elections work. Unless, of course, 23rd June 2016 is a fixed point in time now.


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Corby. Said that a public vote would not have remain as an option.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Since mid-April I have delivered:

~3,000 poll cards
~1,000 Labour leaflets
~1,000 Conservative leaflets
~1,000 Lib Dem leaflets
~1,000 Ukip leaflets
~500 Green leaflets
~500 Brexit Party leaflets
~500 Change UK leaflets

I really hope there isn’t another snap GE soon.

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Mr Chonks wrote:
Since mid-April I have delivered:

~3,000 poll cards
~1,000 Labour leaflets
~1,000 Conservative leaflets
~1,000 Lib Dem leaflets
~1,000 Ukip leaflets
~500 Green leaflets
~500 Brexit Party leaflets
~500 Change UK leaflets

I really hope there isn’t another snap GE soon.


Don’t you get extra pay for those, though?

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Mimi wrote:
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Since mid-April I have delivered:

~3,000 poll cards
~1,000 Labour leaflets
~1,000 Conservative leaflets
~1,000 Lib Dem leaflets
~1,000 Ukip leaflets
~500 Green leaflets
~500 Brexit Party leaflets
~500 Change UK leaflets

I really hope there isn’t another snap GE soon.


Don’t you get extra pay for those, though?

Yes but it’s quite soul-destroying looking at Farage’s face hundreds of times a day.

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Mimi wrote:
Mr Chonks wrote:
Since mid-April I have delivered:

~3,000 poll cards
~1,000 Labour leaflets
~1,000 Conservative leaflets
~1,000 Lib Dem leaflets
~1,000 Ukip leaflets
~500 Green leaflets
~500 Brexit Party leaflets
~500 Change UK leaflets

I really hope there isn’t another snap GE soon.


Don’t you get extra pay for those, though?

Yes but it’s quite soul-destroying looking at Farage’s face hundreds of times a day.

Yeah, I can understand that. :(

It’s a shame one of the fast food places couldn’t conjure up some milkshake leaflets to do a simultaneous promo drop alongside them, for the lols.

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