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Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 17:27 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Looks like all that pissing and moaning sure did the trick! Hardly anyone bought Star Wars... That'll teach em!


Hmmm, really though?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... lefront-ii

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 17:36 ]
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It was only in the charts for one day, right?

[edit] Yeah, SWBF1 came out on a Tuesday, and SWBF2 came out on Friday, so it stands to reason that boxed copies are down on a chart compiled on Friday night, doesn't it?

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 17:43 ]
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Plus boxed isn't a great picture these days. I suspect a lot of people bought the digital deluxe version.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 17:44 ]
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Chart days are different in the UK and US, so you might be comparing across countries there, I think. UK charts run Friday to Friday, US ones run Tuesday to Tuesday. That's why games (mostly) release on those days, and why we (mostly) wait a few days to get games compared to the US.

Edit -- I can't tell the source of the screenshot chart listing.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 15:14 ]
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Ruh roh

Image

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 15:17 ]
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These pesky law-talking dudes know nothing. It's just a difference of opinion, man.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 17:10 ]
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I was dubious about the "marketed at children" bit of that but

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.as ... lefront+2+
"Teen: Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language."

Whether it's a fair criticism or not, it's a bad look for EA and Disney.

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 22, 2017 17:25 ]
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This would have never happened under George's watch. Meesa verrrrry sad.

Author:  Hearthly [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:42 ]
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This isn't doing particularly well in reviews.

Single player is short and uneven, (when it's good it's very good, when it's bad it's horrid), of the five multiplayer modes only two are any good, and whist the microtransactions might be gone the loot box system still hobbles it.

Seems to be a 5/10 to 6/10 kinda deal at a lot of places, just taken on its merits as a game.

Angry Joe's review is pretty good. He goes for 6/10.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:56 ]
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Unless you're a star wars nerd, in which case auto 10/10

Author:  asfish [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:40 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
This isn't doing particularly well in reviews.

Single player is short and uneven, (when it's good it's very good, when it's bad it's horrid), of the five multiplayer modes only two are any good, and whist the microtransactions might be gone the loot box system still hobbles it.

Seems to be a 5/10 to 6/10 kinda deal at a lot of places, just taken on its merits as a game.

Angry Joe's review is pretty good. He goes for 6/10.


The pre relase footage looked really good, I held of getting it on the XBox as Grim advised this was a 16 rated game so didn't want my son all over it as he loves Stars Wars.

Thought about getting the PC version but not so sure now :(

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:20 ]
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Because multiplayer matches in this game reward credits at a flat rate regardless of how well, or how much you do, you simply need to be 'in attendance' for a match (i.e. avoid getting kicked as AFK) to get as many credits as the best player on your team.

Which has, of course, led to this.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017- ... to-credits

Attachment:
bando.JPG


Also:


Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 14:24 ]
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But they don't - you get kill bonuses and objective bonuses.

The lies around this game - especially from people like Eurogamer - are starting to get really silly now.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 14:43 ]
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I read it on the internets so it must be true.

In the Angry Joe review he showed how the top ranked player in a match got about 30 credits more than the bottom ranked player in the same match who basically did nothing.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 15:08 ]
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Grim... wrote:
But they don't - you get kill bonuses and objective bonuses.

The lies around this game - especially from people like Eurogamer - are starting to get really silly now.

Eurogamer doesn't say you get a flat number of credits. It just says you can get a number for match participation using this trick because it evades an AFK kick. Where is the lie?

Author:  myp [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 16:13 ]
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Destiny 2 up to shenanigans too.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/25/1669 ... ce=twitter

Author:  Bamba [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 19:03 ]
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Grim... wrote:
But they don't - you get kill bonuses and objective bonuses.

The lies around this game - especially from people like Eurogamer - are starting to get really silly now.


To be fair Hearthly invented the bit about flat earning of credit, the article doesn't say anything of the sort.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 19:06 ]
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The lies around coverage of this game - especially from people like Hearthly - are starting to get really silly now!

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 20:08 ]
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A lie is a deliberate intent to deceive, if what I said is not the case then it's a mistake.

EDIT - Looks like the accrual of credits has been changed to make it somewhat performance based, albeit you still get a reasonable amount just for showing up and not getting kicked as AFK, hence the 'elastic band farming' is a viable tactic to earn credits, which it really shouldn't be. Try that in a Battlefield game and you'll get precisely fuck all.

So anyway, not a lie, a mistake.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 20:40 ]
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I was taking the piss, that's why I constructed the sentence the same way as Grim...'s.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 20:45 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I was taking the piss, that's why I constructed the sentence the same way as Grim...'s.


I was overly touchy there, my apologies.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:03 ]
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$3.1bn wiped off the value of EA following the backlash to their implementation of this game.

Given that Lucasfilm only cost Disney $4bn in total, that’s some good going.

Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:11 ]
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Good.

Author:  asfish [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 17:42 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
$3.1bn wiped off the value of EA following the backlash to their implementation of this game.

Given that Lucasfilm only cost Disney $4bn in total, that’s some good going.


https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/29/1671 ... 2-analysts

Says that whilst they expect the 10$ drop in share price will influence thinking in EA it won't be immediate as the share price is still 25$ higher than 12 months ago.

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Dec 04, 2017 19:38 ]
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A fine, very well considered review here.


Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Dec 30, 2017 16:22 ]
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Just finished the single player campaigns. They were done really well.

They multiplayer, just seems how quick i can die :)

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:32 ]
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It's probably a bit too late to save the game unfortunately, but EA/DICE have basically ripped Battlefront 2's progression system to pieces and started again.

Quote:
EA DICE appears to be going the whole hog: ability-giving Star Cards, and any other item which affects gameplay, are being pulled out of Crates (the game's loot boxes) for good. You will unlock and upgrade Star Cards using Skill Points earned by levelling up classes, heroes or ships.

Crates will only contain cosmetic items, like emotes and victory poses, and nothing that affects gameplay - and you will not be able to buy them. Crates will be earned through a combination of daily log-ins and completing challenges and milestones.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018- ... y-revealed

Author:  myp [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:11 ]
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EA admits it got loot boxes wrong.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018 ... loot-boxes

Author:  DBSnappa [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:21 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:

AKA got spanked by Disney

Author:  myp [ Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:29 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:

AKA got spanked by Disney

Also spanked by the bottom line. Didn't meet their sales target.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 15:23 ]
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I’ve started playing this.

I clicked on the button that said Campaign. It only took 4 more sub menus to find Actually Start The Campaign Now.

Then it started with a stealth mission.

This ain’t going well at all.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 15:23 ]
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And her helmet is too big for her head. Don’t they have different sizes?

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 15:28 ]
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It’s got a weapon called, no word of a fucking lie, BLURRG.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 15:31 ]
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Fuck is going here, this is dreadful!?

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 15:38 ]
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So I was rushing about PEW PEW PEW and jumping around PEW PEW and killing the Rebs PEW PEW PEW PEW then I notice I didn’t need to do any of that. FYI: this is the hardest difficulty mode.


Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 16:44 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Fuck is going here, this is dreadful!?

It’s great!

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 22:15 ]
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EIGHT fucking button presses to just continue the campaign from the start menu.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 22:29 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
EIGHT fucking button presses to just continue the campaign from the start menu.

It’s exercise!

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jul 16, 2020 22:29 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
It’s got a weapon called, no word of a fucking lie, BLURRG.

It’s sick!

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:00 ]
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I enjoyed this campaign but then I think that's because I don't like hard games.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 15:02 ]
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I think the game engine is badass, it looks great (although a little static a motionless), it’s silky smooth at 60 fps, the space battles looked fantastic and I quite like some of the characters too. Del is instantly likeable and I thought his conversation with Luke was reasonably well done.

But the game is just so by the numbers. Luke plays like dogshit, I can’t understand the card system in the main game, the enemy AI awful; soldiers jerk about in the scenery, stand still, bob up and down like idiots, your companions barely shoot anything and just stand next to enemies as they miss shooting each other from 5 feet, mission are just boring; defend such and such for 3 minutes, then again and then again; defend a guy while he’s “hacking” (urgh) and so on and so on. Forced walking sections, uncanny faces, stealth, holding square, holding square, holding square.

Frankly I’m going to bump it down to easy, smash through it and pretend it’s a nice looking but vacuous Saturday morning CG cartoon.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 22:30 ]
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Things I hate about games: playable dream sequences.

Things I hate about storytelling: someone talking about their future. Oh they’re dead now. Whoopsie.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 22:49 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Things I hate about games: playable dream sequences.

Things I hate about storytelling: someone talking about their future. Oh they’re dead now. Whoopsie.


Definitely this. Easily the worst part of every far cry game. Oooh I'm on drugs, isn't this trippy. No it's just shit.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 23:21 ]
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I’m done with the main story and unlocked the extended epilogue. I’m reet bored of this now. This must be how Hearty felt playing TLOU2.

There’s some truly awful characters seeping in; what was that guys name again? Palindrome or something? Fuck was up with that guy. Mind you, the VAs for the people you know are good. I’d swear that was actually Mark Hamill & Harrison Ford even if it isn’t.





Still, I’m going to give this an extra point at the end because C3-P0 isn’t in it.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Jul 17, 2020 23:55 ]
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Satsuma wrote:

There’s some truly awful characters seeping in; what was that guys name again? Palindrome or something


Otto?

Author:  Pundabaya [ Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:30 ]
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The thing that put me off: the guns feel terrible.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:09 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Things I hate about games: playable dream sequences.

Definitely this. Easily the worst part of every far cry game. Oooh I'm on drugs, isn't this trippy. No it's just shit.

Normally I agree, but the playable dream sequence in Max Payne was great.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:43 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Things I hate about games: playable dream sequences.

Definitely this. Easily the worst part of every far cry game. Oooh I'm on drugs, isn't this trippy. No it's just shit.

Normally I agree, but the playable dream sequence in Max Payne was great.

I liked Michael's acid trip in GTAV too.

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:21 ]
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The Max Payne dream where you had to balance on the annoying lines a black void while a baby endlessly cries in the background!?

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