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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Apparently season 2 starts 16 February, in case anyone didn't know.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Apparently season 2 starts 16 February, in case anyone didn't know.


OH NO we no longer have a Netflix subscription!

Hopefully something will work itself out.


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I've never had Netflix yet really enjoyed the first season. I'm sure you'll be just fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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I'd have kept Netflix but they went all mad on their own TV series (which I have very little interest in), plus their film selection was crap and getting worse, as they were actively removing them on a constant basis and adding precious little that was decent - subscription cancelled.

The good lord Tweaknews will provide.

We clearly need a Spotify/Apple Music for telly and films, they'll get there in the end I suppose.


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OitNB and House of Cards are both brilliant

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OitNB and House of Cards are both brilliant

And Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Bojack Horseman, Master of None, etc, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Cras wrote:
OitNB and House of Cards are both brilliant


I just don't want to watch that much telly though, taking on a multi-season series is a big commitment of time, which generally speaking I'd rather spend playing videogames.

This is what outfits like Netflix don't seem to understand when they tout the fifty four million AMAZING ORIGINAL SERIES they've got available to watch - a lot of folks either don't have, or don't want to spend, that much time watching telly.


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But BCS is exactly all of those things.

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But BCS is exactly all of those things.


Indeed, but my commitment level for keeping up with TV series is one or two active ones at any given time.

X-Files, The Waking Dead, Fear The Walking Dead, Better Call Saul, erm, and maybe some other ones I've forgotten. So when the new X-Files finishes its run, TWD and BCS will be back, for example.

I will do binges if the programme is good enough, TWD I brought myself up to date on and now keep up with. Dexter I stopped after four seasons though. Breaking Bad was another worthy one to binge on and then I was ready for the final Season Five.

It's slicing up a finite amount of leisure time and deciding what to spend it on I suppose, and my first love is videogames, so TV and film has to compete with that. I was up until 1:30am playing Witcher 3 last night, it'd have to be some pretty damn special TV series to supplant that.


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Cras wrote:
OitNB and House of Cards are both brilliant

And Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Bojack Horseman, Master of None, etc, etc.

Yup. I more-or-less only subscribe to Netflix for its own shows now, and I'm perfectly happy with that because it's a strong slate.


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I just don't want to watch that much telly though, taking on a multi-season series is a big commitment of time, which generally speaking I'd rather spend playing videogames.

This is what outfits like Netflix don't seem to understand when they tout the fifty four million AMAZING ORIGINAL SERIES they've got available to watch - a lot of folks either don't have, or don't want to spend, that much time watching telly.


Wait, I have to go back to this. Are you basically saying here that because you don't watch much TV, Netflix et al are stupid for not realising that there's already enough TV out there so they should just show the stuff that already exists instead of making their own?

I mean, saying you stopped because you were only watching a few hours a week so not getting your money's worth is fine, makes perfect sense. But you seem to be saying that you stopped because Netflix are doing it wrong and have too many TV shows... :S

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Too many tv shows at the cost of not many films, I think he means.

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Too many tv shows at the cost of not many films, I think he means.


Aye that's about the size of it. They were pushing their various TV series very hard, and the film side of things seemed to be suffering, which didn't work for me as it was the films I was mainly interested in.

Peaky Blinders and some thing with Hells Angels and what-not, and the lesbian prison shenanigans. No sale.

Amazon are at it as well, we have that Amazon Prime thing, and now they're giving Jeremy Clarkson money to wank himself off. Tchoh.


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I can see where Hearthly is coming from with this. It's easier to lose a couple of hours to a film then it is to a 10 part mini series.


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Yeah Netflix haven't done any good original film content, I agree

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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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No one else watched S02E01 yet?

It's very good, although it did take me a while to remember what the hell everyone was up to at the end of Season One, since it finished about fifty years ago. (I refreshed my memory by reading the Wiki page for Season One before watching the first episode of Season Two, and even then I was a bit like, 'Erm, what was he up to again?')

Anyway, it's basically more of the same, so if you liked Season One (I loved it), then you'll deffo totes like this as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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I watched it Hearthly and thought it was great. The guy with the car and baseball cards is hilarious!


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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S02E03 was more wonderful stuff, lots going on even with the small cast of characters.

Super-keen to see Episode 4 and indeed watch how the season pans out.

I wonder how many seasons they're thinking of doing before the chronology catches up to Breaking Bad? Lots, hopefully.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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This and Breaking Bad are now some of my favourite shows of all time. The cinematography is outstanding, for one thing. Sometimes they get too far fetched, but they make up for it by being funny and incredibly well crafted.

BTW, since I watch very little TV and don't really keep up with it, I only watched these shows due to them being promoted by people on here, and that goes for Rick and Morty as well (which I also love), so thanks fellow Beexers!


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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I wonder how many seasons they're thinking of doing before the chronology catches up to Breaking Bad?

They can't do too many. Jonathan Banks looks especially older than he did in BB. They're talking about extending it past BB though, which would be interesting indeed.

I love Jimmy and Chuck together though. Those scenes are always the best.

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I've just caught up with episodes 2 and 3 and my word, it's brilliant.

Can't wait for next week!


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Episode 4 another absolute cracker, the last ten minutes in particular were grippingly exciting - the only downer with this is they just can't make them fast enough.

As myp noted a couple of posts back, Jonathon Banks is visibly older than he was in Breaking Bad (and he doesn't look particularly well either), but I'm cool with that as we know what character he's supposed to be playing, even if he 'looks' wrong compared to how he looked in BB.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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I've just finished watching episode 4 and yes, I agree. It was cracking!

It's really interesting knowing where the characters end up, but it's fascinating seeing how they get there. We knew that Mike wouldn't do what he was hired to do, but how he got round it was ace.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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More quality from Episode 5, and a decent splash of humour in there too.

I'm inspired to go back and watch all of Breaking Bad again, you can feel its DNA running right through Better Call Saul.

Splendid telly, love it to pieces.


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 Post subject: Re: Better Call Saul
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Renewed for a third season.

On top of Hearthly's praise, I'd add this continues to be one of the most beautifully shot shows since, well, Breaking Bad. The very, very wide shot in the car park in Ep5 was just gorgeous.


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Pretty cool to see
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I found his pre-paralysis performance very moving.

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I've resubscribed to Netflix, it just feels wrong to be *cough* acquiring Season Two of Better Call Saul when it's so damn good, you need to be paying for the good stuff.

EDIT - Ooohhh, Jessica Jones, I could watch that as well.


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Ooohhh, Jessica Jones, I could watch that as well.


You totally should. Also the new season of Daredevil is released this Friday.


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I've resubscribed to Netflix, it just feels wrong to be *cough* acquiring Season Two of Better Call Saul when it's so damn good, you need to be paying for the good stuff.

EDIT - Ooohhh, Jessica Jones, I could watch that as well.


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Is everyone caught up? Astounding cinematography in the latest episode, Inflatable.

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The wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tube man vs. crazy suits montage was utter genius.

The writing was also FANTASTIC, with Kim giving her and Jimmy's relationship a serious load of foreshadowing - including when she spoke about the messy divorce litigation in her interview, then proceeded to tear the business card when she has the 'McGill & Wexler' brainwave. I usually find Vince Gilligan's female chars quite annoying and preachy, but Kim is awesome.


This has probably been my favourite episode of Season 2, which I've found a little slow tbh.

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I'm not caught up yet. But the cinematography is incredible. There is something in every episode that makes my jaw drop.

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Re: Kim's awesomeness, let's talk about how both this and Breaking Bad have had flawless casting. Except for the people cast against type (ex-comedians Bryan Cranston and Bob Odenkirk), I don't think I'd seen any of the major characters from either show anywhere else. Yet so many of the actors were cast perfectly; from Tuco's barely contained psychosis, to Mike's world-weary professionalism, to Jesse's puppy-like excitability and eventual evolution into Walt's conscience, and now to Rhea Seaborn who is just enthralling as Kim Wexler.


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I don't think I'd seen any of the major characters from either show anywhere else.

You'll have seen Hank in movies: T2, The One, Starship Troopers. He cropped up in The West Wing a few times, too.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I don't think I'd seen any of the major characters from either show anywhere else.

You'll have seen Hank in movies: T2, The One, Starship Troopers. He cropped up in The West Wing a few times, too.

And if I recall correctly, Mike was Steven Berkoff's henchman in Beverly Hills Cop.

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Hank was also in Total Recall, and amusingly Cranston was in the remake.


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Except for the people cast against type (ex-comedians Bryan Cranston and Bob Odenkirk)

And Michael McKean.

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I don't think I'd seen any of the major characters from either show anywhere else.

You'll have seen Hank in movies: T2, The One, Starship Troopers. He cropped up in The West Wing a few times, too.

OK, I revise my initial statement to: although not unknowns, they had previously only done minor roles, and you probably wouldn't remember them from anywhere else.


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OK, I revise my initial statement to: although not unknowns, they had previously only done minor roles, and you probably wouldn't remember them from anywhere else.


:this:

I saw a 'TEN CHARACTERS FROM BREAKING BAD YOU'VE SEEN IN EVERY MOVIE EVER' fluff piece on a website somewhere a few months ago, and for every single entry, even the most ubiquitous one (Hank, apparently) - I (a) Needed the benefit of pictorial evidence and (b) Was like, 'Oh right, really, I'd never have known.'

IIRC they were almost all very minor roles too.


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Mark Margolis is getting a lot of TV work these days, presumably off the back of Breaking Bad. Although I've loved him in pretty much every Arronofsky movie for years.

He's Ace Ventura's landlord, too.

Edit: Although some of heavy references to Scarface in Breaking Bad are a little cheeky given that Margolis was in it.


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I agree and it's a very good point. There isn't a single actor or actress that I can think of in both Breaking Bad and Better call Saul that isn't perfect for the role.


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Re: Kim's awesomeness, let's talk about how both this and Breaking Bad have had flawless casting. Except for the people cast against type (ex-comedians Bryan Cranston and Bob Odenkirk), I don't think I'd seen any of the major characters from either show anywhere else. Yet so many of the actors were cast perfectly; from Tuco's barely contained psychosis, to Mike's world-weary professionalism, to Jesse's puppy-like excitability and eventual evolution into Walt's conscience, and now to Rhea Seaborn who is just enthralling as Kim Wexler.


:this:

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S02E09 is barnstormingly brilliant, kind of like Breaking Bad before it, Better Call Saul makes everything else look a bit rubbish.

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I agree. Brilliant throughout but, I have an issue...

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If I remember rightly, Mike went into a factory in Breaking Bad and killed a load of people with no problems. Remember the guy he shot through the wall after his hostage was telling him where to shoot?

Anyway, if he can do this, why was he being Batman and not killing anyone in Better Call Saul? Perhaps he's going to change his demeanour as the series goes on? Am I missing something?


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#1 I guess there are two main character arcs going on here, we need to see how Jimmy becomes Saul, and how Mike pre-BB becomes Mike of the BB-era, both are fascinating journeys to witness.

In Jimmy's case we know that Kim is gone one way or another by the BB era and he's fully morphed into Saul, I'm really interested to see how that happens.

#2 If I were having a bet on it I'd say 'no', but then again it could be one of the main drivers for Jimmy's conversion into Saul if Chuck is badly hurt or even worse dead.

Incidentally the three-way scene between Jimmy, Chuck and Kim was superb wasn't it? Utterly consuming, so well written and acted, and the camerawork is peerless too.


I don't know how people get all excited about twaddle like TWD when there's infinitely better telly being produced such as BCS.


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