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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:29 
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Tell that to shitload of people running Windows 8.


A lot of those people have no choice, they go to PC World etc for a new PC and that's what they get given.

No question Widows 8 is better with hardware in some cases that Windows 7 but the interface is a pain which was has put me off

In times gone by I would be using the latest OS in Beta or what ever on my main PC, but Windows 7 is so stable and does the job I've never felt the need to move

The key thing Windows 10 needs to delivery for me is function that detects you are using a PC and gives you a desktop with no metro interface


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:37 
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Hearthly wrote:
Bamba wrote:

Have you got a source for that? It's a use case I'm very interested in as I'd like to do a proper clean install instead of an upgrade if possible.


Anandtech I think? My phone suggested it to me as something I might like on the Google Now screen thing, so I read it while I was having a shit.

Oh yes here you go - http://www.anandtech.com/show/9334/micr ... -upgrading


Cool, ta. Whenever I make the move I'll do an in-place upgrade and then just blow it away and do a full install straight after. A bit of a pain but much better than having to always do upgrade installs forever more.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:03 
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Windows 8's version of the start screen wasn't as usable as 7, but 8.1 U1 has fixed those problems.
At work we get a lot of "not windows 8", but once we've sat down with them for ten minutes that soon goes away.

Assuming we don't find any compatibility issues we'll be upgrading all of our machines to W10 once it's out.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:04 
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Apparently if you upgrade to Windows 10 you'll then be able to do a clean build of Windows 10 at a later date on the same machine, which could be handy.


Aye: always better to start from a clean state with these things. I think I'd want to upgrade, then get new harddisks/ram/cool stuff before doing a full clean install.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:22 
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Which emulators are you concerned about Hearthly? I dabble with emulators a fair bit but aren't the majority of good ones regularly updated?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:30 
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You think you've got troubles? I'm trying to update a g5 imac to OSX 10.5! That's hard!


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:31 
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Incidentally, does anyone have a 10.5 retail disc?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:36 
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DavPaz wrote:
Incidentally, does anyone have a 10.5 retail disc?


Probably, yes.

I would definitely imagine that someone has.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:38 
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Which emulators are you concerned about Hearthly? I dabble with emulators a fair bit but aren't the majority of good ones regularly updated?


I wouldn't expect any issues, the underlying code for Windows 10 will be much the same as Windows 7.

Maybe the newer driver signing might be an issue for some things?

Only issue I've seen is that some emulators don't like to be run from a NAS or have the games stored on there, had this issue with the N64 emulator so moved it all to a DAS.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:46 
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Which emulators are you concerned about Hearthly? I dabble with emulators a fair bit but aren't the majority of good ones regularly updated?


The main ones I'm concerned with are several fruit machine emulators, one of them slightly broke in Vista/Win7 due to a change in the way the OS handles sound but other than that works fine (and it's only the older fruit machines with non-sampled sound that are affected).

All of the fruit machine emulators are 'abandonware' now in that none have been updated in a decade or more (at least in terms of public releases), so I'm always a bit wary of upgrading my OS.

(It is possible to run them in virtual machines, for example the emulator that broke a bit in Vista/Win 7 can be run in a Virtual XP machine on Windows 7 and the sound works fine, but that's a bit of a faff that I'd rather avoid if possible.)

Also I've got a MAME build from 2006 that I still use (with a set of ROMs matched to that build), so I'd like that to work as well.

Also Visual Pinball + VPINMAME (I've got old builds of those, not sure what the current update scenario is with them), although that's not so important now that there's Pinball Arcade.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:01 
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TheVision wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Incidentally, does anyone have a 10.5 retail disc?


Probably, yes.

I would definitely imagine that someone has.

Good to know!


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:08 
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Wooooooooo! Thread resurrection time.

So, I need to do something with my laptop this weekend. Drop kicking it through the window is on the list, but I thought that clearing it and doing a reinstall should be my first point of call. My question is this: the laptop was supplied with Windows (whatever it was in 2012) and I did the free upgrade to Windows 10. If I do a reinstall, will I still be able to upgrade it to windows 10 for free?

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:20 
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Wooooooooo! Thread resurrection time.

So, I need to do something with my laptop this weekend. Drop kicking it through the window is on the list, but I thought that clearing it and doing a reinstall should be my first point of call. My question is this: the laptop was supplied with Windows (whatever it was in 2012) and I did the free upgrade to Windows 10. If I do a reinstall, will I still be able to upgrade it to windows 10 for free?



I would say yes. Although Windows 10, has a feature to allow you to reset settings, keep files without having to do a full rebuild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LgHNRjiekQ

or a text version - https://uk.pcmag.com/gallery/118555/how ... windows-10

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:23 
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Thanks Kov, I'll watch that this evening.

I think it will be okay too as I'm pretty sure I had to register it and whatnot. But Joans did that thing where someone looks at you with a raised eyebrow and makes you question your sanity...

Cheers. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:24 
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Thanks Kov, I'll watch that this evening.

I think it will be okay too as I'm pretty sure I had to register it and whatnot. But Joans did that thing where someone looks at you with a raised eyebrow and makes you question your sanity...

Cheers. :)


or a text version - https://uk.pcmag.com/gallery/118555/how ... windows-10

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:27 
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Wooooooooo! Thread resurrection time.

So, I need to do something with my laptop this weekend. Drop kicking it through the window is on the list, but I thought that clearing it and doing a reinstall should be my first point of call. My question is this: the laptop was supplied with Windows (whatever it was in 2012) and I did the free upgrade to Windows 10. If I do a reinstall, will I still be able to upgrade it to windows 10 for free?


There's a Recovery control panel in Windows 10, do the reinstall from there and you're not having to roll anything back. You certainly wouldn't want to go back to a previous OS and upgrade again, that way will just leave more shite lying around after your 'fresh' install.

Failing that, download a Windows 10 disk image from Microsoft and reinstall from that:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/softwar ... /windows10

It should recognise your machine and re-activate it automatically as far as I understand it, or you can extract your license key beforehand just to be on the safe side:

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/find-w ... indows-10/


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:33 
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This is actually a good question because I thought you might lose it. I wondered if you could find the serial and reuse it, but they give you a digital licence rather than a serial code. I then found this which suggests you can download Win 10 again.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... fac0d6290a

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:40 
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Your license is stored against your Microsoft account, so as long as you use that to log in, you'll be fine


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 13:41 
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Looks like Myp and Bamba have me on ignore.. which has amused me :)

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 14:19 
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I'm fairly sure the licence only appears in your Microsoft account if you bought it via Microsoft though, right? I don't have one on my Microsoft account, for example.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 14:22 
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I'm fairly sure the licence only appears in your Microsoft account if you bought it via Microsoft though, right? I don't have one on my Microsoft account, for example.

If you log into your account during install, it gets hooked into the license


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:31 
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Weird, I did that and I don't have it visible on my MS account.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:42 
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Huh, I didn't even realise that my MS account had details of my PC at all but now I see it's even got details of my disk usage on there.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 16:19 
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Well, upgrading to Windows 10.2004 was boring and uneventful.

Like this post.


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 16:22 
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DavPaz wrote:
Well, upgrading to Windows 10.2004 was boring and uneventful.

Like this post.

I’ve put it off till mid-Aug because of the issues with defrag and optimisation. Hopefully they’ll have patched it by then.

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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
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Theory goes if you'd be affected you won't get it passively. I haven't heard about those issues, any links to save me googling?


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 Post subject: Re: Windows 10
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 20:58 
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DavPaz wrote:
Well, upgrading to Windows 10.2004 was boring and uneventful.

Like this post.

I would but I can't seem to find the like button.


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