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Author:  myp [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:18 ]
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Author:  GazChap [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:19 ]
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I'm on the electoral roll, but I've only been back at my flat for a couple of months and I'm not sure it'll have updated.

I've not received a voting card or anything through the post.

Can I just turn up at the polling station?

Author:  myp [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:20 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Can I just turn up at the polling station?

If you're registered, then yes.

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:21 ]
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Yes, they'll have the roll so you can see if you're on it or not. You don't need your card to vote,.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:32 ]
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I don't know where my nearest polling station is.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:34 ]
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I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:38 ]
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gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:43 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:43 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I don't know where my nearest polling station is.


Call your local authority. They'll tell you.

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:45 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?


Yes, there is that risk. There are (I think) procedures to deal with the situation where you find out you've already voted.

At the county elections last year, I didn't have my card and when asked for my address gave my previous one. Then corrected myself, and got the house number wrong. Then, when I did get the address right, the clerk struggled to find me as she'd misheard. Eventually I got my ballot paper.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:47 ]
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Kern wrote:
gospvg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?


Yes, there is that risk. There are (I think) procedures to deal with the situation where you find out you've already voted.

At the county elections last year, I didn't have my card and when asked for my address gave my previous one. Then corrected myself, and got the house number wrong. Then, when I did get the address right, the clerk struggled to find me as she'd misheard. Eventually I got my ballot paper.


Do I have to go to the polling station which was printed on the card or can I go to a different station which is closer?

Author:  myp [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:50 ]
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Annoyingly you have to go to the polling station you're told to. Only they will have your ballot paper.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:52 ]
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Bugger, stupid polling card

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:53 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?


Someone actually did this to me at the last General Election. My ballot got taken but put into a separate box.

And then probably just ignored.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:05 ]
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Is it mod election time already?

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:19 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?


Considering how much importance is placed on voting, it is indeed an odd state of affairs, and there's no doubt that it does go on. As individual ballot papers are identifiable, if you turned up to vote and someone had already wandered in claiming to be you, it would be possible to discount the fraudulent vote, but if the real person never shows up it won't be discovered.

I seem to recall a year or so back that this was one of the areas that was being looked at for reform.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:22 ]
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I would expect at the minimum you need to turn up with some photo id before you can vote.

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:24 ]
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gospvg wrote:
I would expect at the minimum you need to turn up with some photo id before you can vote.


Northern Ireland has such a system now.

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:32 ]
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Main issue really is that any form of photo id for voting must be easy to obtain and free. Otherwise, it risks becoming a poll tax .

Thankfully, we'd probably be spared the situation in the US, where voter id laws immediately remind people of Jim Crow.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:36 ]
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Yes I am sure there are quite a few voters who do not have passports or photo card driving licences.
Hmm in that case I suppose household bills/birth certificate can be used for ID.

Author:  Kern [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:37 ]
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I jsut checked the Northern Irish regs. You can get a free card if you don't have something suitable.

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/voting-at-an-election
http://www.eoni.org.uk/Electoral-Identi ... -Card-FAQs

Author:  gospvg [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:42 ]
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Did the national ID card scheme idea die on it's head?

Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:45 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
gospvg wrote:
I've also lost my card, assume I need to take some ID with me to vote?


Nope, though if you think you look a bit suspicious it might be a good idea.


See I find this odd, surely anyone could walk up give my name/address & place my vote?


Considering how much importance is placed on voting, it is indeed an odd state of affairs, and there's no doubt that it does go on. As individual ballot papers are identifiable, if you turned up to vote and someone had already wandered in claiming to be you, it would be possible to discount the fraudulent vote, but if the real person never shows up it won't be discovered.

I seem to recall a year or so back that this was one of the areas that was being looked at for reform.


I'm currently sitting 10ft away from the team doing the work to change this into a digital system, first step is to make the electoral roll digital. Online voting is coming though, which will have a whole different avenue of fraud :D

Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:46 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Did the national ID card scheme idea die on it's head?


Yes. It isn't coming back anytime soon either.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:54 ]
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Trooper wrote:
gospvg wrote:
Did the national ID card scheme idea die on it's head?


Yes. It isn't coming back anytime soon either.

It was the first thing the coalition did before they set about demolishing everything else.

Author:  myp [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:56 ]
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At the very least you should be able to go into any old polling station and vote. Too many people on Facebook saying they are too far away (they should have registered for postal votes instead, but that's a different story).

Author:  markg [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:26 ]
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It should be as easy and secure as is reasonably possible to vote. Spending millions on making it as easy as possible to allow anyone who basically couldn't arsed otherwise to indicate their very vague preference shouldn't be any kind of a priority.

Author:  Bamba [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:30 ]
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markg wrote:
It should be as easy and secure as is reasonably possible to vote.


Indeed.

markg wrote:
Spending millions on making it as easy as possible to allow anyone who basically couldn't arsed otherwise to indicate their very vague preference shouldn't be any kind of a priority.


B-but you wanted to make is as easy as possible a paragraph ago?

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:30 ]
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markg wrote:
It should be as easy and secure as is reasonably possible to vote. Spending millions on making it as easy as possible to allow anyone who basically couldn't arsed otherwise to indicate their very vague preference shouldn't be any kind of a priority.

Translation: Trooper is paid too much.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:32 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
I don't know where my nearest polling station is.


Call your local authority. They'll tell you.


Oh, balls. I suspect that I'm currently registered at my old address 600 yards away from where I live now*

*When we moved, we hired a transit van for the weekend. we returned it with 12 miles on the clock. The hire place is 3 miles away from both houses.

Author:  markg [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:41 ]
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Bamba wrote:
markg wrote:
It should be as easy and secure as is reasonably possible to vote.


Indeed.

markg wrote:
Spending millions on making it as easy as possible to allow anyone who basically couldn't arsed otherwise to indicate their very vague preference shouldn't be any kind of a priority.


B-but you wanted to make is as easy as possible a paragraph ago?

"reasonably"

Author:  Grim... [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:43 ]
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It's certainly "reasonable possible" to do it via the Internet.

Author:  markg [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:45 ]
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Sure and it should be implemented where it will save money. What I'm basically saying is that anyone moaning on Facebook that they can't vote for whatever reason obviously doesn't feel very strongly about the whole thing.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 14:07 ]
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police move to stop Voter intimidation in Bradford amidst bribery allegations

Author:  Mimi [ Thu May 22, 2014 18:06 ]
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Our local polling station is luckily just a short walk. We have performed our democratic duties.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu May 22, 2014 18:13 ]
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WE HAVE DONE A VORT

Author:  Anonymous X [ Thu May 22, 2014 18:20 ]
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My gf's been in the polling station over an hour, they wouldn't let her vote, and told her she couldn't. I walked out as I didn't think I could contain my anger for much longer.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 18:50 ]
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Anonymous X wrote:
My gf's been in the polling station over an hour, they wouldn't let her vote, and told her she couldn't. I walked out as I didn't think I could contain my anger for much longer.


Why not?

Author:  asfish [ Thu May 22, 2014 19:32 ]
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Quote:
I'm currently sitting 10ft away from the team doing the work to change this into a digital system, first step is to make the electoral roll digital. Online voting is coming though, which will have a whole different avenue of fraud :D


Not if they do it right? I have my Passport and Driving license, all linked on the Government Gateway, also done Iris so I would have though that there are enough things there to reduce fraud

They should have done the ID card, nothing to hide, nothing to worry about.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu May 22, 2014 20:30 ]
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Gps trackers for all citizens. Nothing to hide, nothing to worry about

Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:11 ]
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I voted the hell out of that shit.

First time I've ever tactically voted, mind. Sad state of affairs.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:12 ]
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asfish wrote:
Quote:
I'm currently sitting 10ft away from the team doing the work to change this into a digital system, first step is to make the electoral roll digital. Online voting is coming though, which will have a whole different avenue of fraud :D


Not if they do it right? I have my Passport and Driving license, all linked on the Government Gateway, also done Iris so I would have though that there are enough things there to reduce fraud



Yeah, it's not quite that simple :) There are always ways to game the system, there will always be fraud, it's just when you move to digital it changes the type of attacks you get. The total amount of fraud will almost certainly be less though.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:16 ]
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All I had to do was turn up, give the name of the house and say "yes" when she asked if my surname was Lewis. Brilliant security. I may be going back later wearing a hat.

Author:  Pod [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:39 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Anonymous X wrote:
My gf's been in the polling station over an hour, they wouldn't let her vote, and told her she couldn't. I walked out as I didn't think I could contain my anger for much longer.


Why not?


Wild guess is issues to do with nationality?

Anonymous X wrote:
I feel sorry for my girlfriend today, being reg'd to vote over here she only has the option to vote for British parties she can't stand rather than the saner German ones. Even the UK party which is directly related to the German party she is a member of is too right-wing for her tastes, let alone the others.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:48 ]
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Pod wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Anonymous X wrote:
My gf's been in the polling station over an hour, they wouldn't let her vote, and told her she couldn't. I walked out as I didn't think I could contain my anger for much longer.


Why not?


Wild guess is issues to do with nationality?

Anonymous X wrote:
I feel sorry for my girlfriend today, being reg'd to vote over here she only has the option to vote for British parties she can't stand rather than the saner German ones. Even the UK party which is directly related to the German party she is a member of is too right-wing for her tastes, let alone the others.


Maybe I'm tired, but isn't "wouldn't let her vote" different from "wasn't able to vote for the party she wants to"?

If she's voted before in the UK, then it shouldn't be a problem now, unless there was an error with registration or something?

I turned up to vote in two places and it turns out I wasn't registered in either. In Shipley. IN double cufffed shirt and brogues. With my work hair. Oops.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:49 ]
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Christ, the options were fucking depressing.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:55 ]
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I'm still depressed by the BNP being given multiple party political broadcasts.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 22, 2014 21:58 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
I'm still depressed by the BNP being given multiple party political broadcasts.


Be bouyed by the fact most people probably turned it off or said "Twats" and then UKIP diluted their vote.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 22, 2014 22:02 ]
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I'm also depressed by UKIP in general.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu May 22, 2014 22:04 ]
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We had No2EU, the English Democrats, BNP, UKIP and some other cubes that I can't remember :(

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