Bloodborne - From Software - PS4

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Lonewolves wrote:

I started this again at Bamba's and it's not as hard as i remember.

Title?

Grim... · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:45

Lonewolves wrote:

Between us we didn't manage to kill the Cleric though.

You don't have to - that's a optional boss, so you can come back to it later.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:08

Grim... wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Between us we didn't manage to kill the Cleric though.

You don't have to - that's a optional boss, so you can come back to it later.

Yeah, we can't kill Father Gascoigne either. Bamba just threw his controller in disgust. :DD

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Lonewolves wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Between us we didn't manage to kill the Cleric though.

You don't have to - that's a optional boss, so you can come back to it later.

Yeah, we can't kill Father Gascoigne either. Bamba just threw his controller in disgust. :DD

I just murdered the cleric beast after your left. The secret was spamming molotovs it turned out. I'm still not convinced I'll get past Father Dickface so my Bloodborne experience might be about at an end.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

That boss fight is brilliant. Stunningly difficult at first but when it all clicks and you’re dodging around and wacking him on his arse you feel like a badass.

If you’re thinking about giving up though - make sure you call in some co-op assistance.

Or make yourself available for some friendly cooperation and see how others are fairing.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 18:02

Bamba wrote:

I'm still not convinced I'll get past Father Dickface so my Bloodborne experience might be about at an end.

Do you know about the music box?

Grim... · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 18:03

Or how to call for help?

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Of course not, how could I? It's not like the fucking thing explains any aspect of itself, not even the most basic of controls. Which is another thing about it that's grinding my gears somewhat.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Bollocks to calling for help though, I'll either git gud or give up; anything else is cheating.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 19:18

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Lonewolves wrote:

Lol

Did you buy it, or just renew your PS+?

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Bamba wrote:

Bollocks to calling for help though, I'll either git gud or give up; anything else is cheating.

Don’t be an idiot, it’s part of the fun being helped and helping others. Bloodbourne has a whole mechanic which revolves around friendly cooperation and invasions. You’re just the kind of person who would dump it after seeing a fraction of what it has to offer and friendly coop would allievate your frustrations and probably help you get into it. You can always choose when you’d like some help (usually for a difficult boss) and when you’d rather they fuck off.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 19:31

Bamba wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Lol

Did you buy it, or just renew your PS+?

It was bought for me!

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Bamba wrote:

Of course not, how could I? It's not like the fucking thing explains any aspect of itself, not even the most basic of controls. Which is another thing about it that's grinding my gears somewhat.

Dark Souls had the simplest of tutorials which was basically a set of messages on the floor in the first area telling you how to do a few things. One of them was a lunge attack. I spent about half an hour trying to do what it was telling me to do only to find out after looking online that the starting weapon you get as a dex character can't do that type of attack. Fuck needlessly impenetrable games.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Bleh.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Cras wrote:

Bamba wrote:

Of course not, how could I? It's not like the fucking thing explains any aspect of itself, not even the most basic of controls. Which is another thing about it that's grinding my gears somewhat.

Dark Souls had the simplest of tutorials which was basically a set of messages on the floor in the first area telling you how to do a few things. One of them was a lunge attack. I spent about half an hour trying to do what it was telling me to do only to find out after looking online that the starting weapon you get as a dex character can't do that type of attack. Fuck needlessly impenetrable games.

Preach it brother!

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 20:56

I died

Grim... · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 21:05

Bamba wrote:

Of course not, how could I?

Exploring and listening to the shoddy voice-acting (for the music box) and reading the description when you pick up the bells (for the multiplayer).

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Grim... wrote:

Bamba wrote:

Of course not, how could I?

Exploring and listening to the shoddy voice-acting (for the music box) and reading the description when you pick up the bells (for the multiplayer).

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 23:08

I found the bells. And all the tutorial notes in Hunter's Dream.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Mar 17, 2018 23:47

Very nearly killed Cleric Beast first time but died when he had just a sliver of health left. Gonna grind some more blood echoes and buy a shitload of molotovs.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:38

Bamba wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Bamba wrote:

Of course not, how could I?

Exploring and listening to the shoddy voice-acting (for the music box) and reading the description when you pick up the bells (for the multiplayer).

There's a troll near one of the ladders up from the sewer. Kill him, then take the ladder that's next to him and take a look around.

You can knock on doors with a red light outside of them.

The bells are in the Hunters Dream.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:46

The woman who asks for a safe place, how can I help her?

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:51

Lonewolves wrote:

The woman who asks for a safe place, how can I help her?

After beating gascoigne, you can point her at one of two places - the area after him, and the clinic you started.

I won't say which is preferable, mind.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:27

After beating Gascoigne. Lol ok.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:48

Lonewolves wrote:

After beating Gascoigne. Lol ok.

Gascoigne isn't actually too hard, assuming you have the right gun.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

If you have the pistol (if you didn't pick this up as the starter, you can buy it after getting the saw hunter badge from the pig underneath him. It can be done with the blunderbuss, but the timing is more precise), just shoot at him whenever he looks like attacking. When stunned, just wander up to him and put your main weapon through him. when he transforms, make sure he's away from the wall,use the music box and then o a charged R2 on his back. and then ram your weapon through him as before. It may help to go into the fight with 5 extra bullets through pressing up on the d pad, and then healing and finding a blood vial on route. Failing that, you can use his weakness to getting blocked by gravestones fairly well (The way I've always done it up until earlier today, whereupon I was surprised at how easy the way I've described above is)

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 15:00

Mr Dave wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

The woman who asks for a safe place, how can I help her?

After beating gascoigne, you can point her at one of two places - the area after him, and the clinic you started.

I won't say which is preferable, mind.

You have to visit both places before you can use them.

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 15:01

I found Gascoigne easiest on the stairs to the right, as his gun won't hit you.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

I found Gascoigne easiest letting him chase me around the large gravesite tomb just next to the stairs, especially during his 2nd stage.

If you can learn to be the Parry King Gascoigne is trivial. Unfortunately I was shit at being the Parry King throughout the entire game and never mastered it. In fact, I barely used it and I was almost exclusively went two-handed throughout.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2018 19:44

Killed the cleric beast on the third attempt. Phew!

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 16:42

Satsuma wrote:

I found Gascoigne easiest letting him chase me around the large gravesite tomb just next to the stairs, especially during his 2nd stage.

If you can learn to be the Parry King Gascoigne is trivial. Unfortunately I was shit at being the Parry King throughout the entire game and never mastered it. In fact, I barely used it and I was almost exclusively went two-handed throughout.

This is broadly how I approached it. (Well tonitrus and damage dealing gun as compared to parry gun). Same for dark soulses.

I decided for this playthrough to actually use the parrying mechanic. It's transformed some right bastard enemies into almost walkovers. And it a lot easier to pull off than I'd found in the past.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 16:44

I have got stuck on Rom in the chalice dungeon on NG+

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Mr Dave wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

I found Gascoigne easiest letting him chase me around the large gravesite tomb just next to the stairs, especially during his 2nd stage.

If you can learn to be the Parry King Gascoigne is trivial. Unfortunately I was shit at being the Parry King throughout the entire game and never mastered it. In fact, I barely used it and I was almost exclusively went two-handed throughout.

This is broadly how I approached it. (Well tonitrus and damage dealing gun as compared to parry gun). Same for dark soulses.

I decided for this playthrough to actually use the parrying mechanic. It's transformed some right bastard enemies into almost walkovers. And it a lot easier to pull off than I'd found in the past.

Who is this parrying mechanic and how do I meet him?

In all seriousness, how do I do a parry? Is it like Metal Gear Revengeance?

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 17:12

You shoot baddies just as they attack.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Grim... wrote:

You shoot baddies just as they attack.

Oh that thing. And you can follow up with some kind of visceral attack or something?

Not managed that. Well, I've managed to get them to stagger but then I don't seem to catch them in time to do anything remotely visceral to them.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 17:16

Just stroll up to them and press R1.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 17:26

Yeah parrying normal enemies is something I can do quite easily, but I had to abandon it for the cleric beast as I just couldn't time it properly.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

Grim... wrote:

I have got stuck on Rom in the chalice dungeon on NG+

Yup. See my earlier posts - I couldn’t defeat him for love nor money.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 17:59

Grim... wrote:

I have got stuck on Rom in the chalice dungeon on NG+

Good news! Chalice dungeons don't respect ng+/++ etc, so you can come back whenever.

Bad News! You're being beaten by just a regular NG Rom.
I like cock.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14358

That’s an odd thing to announce but I respect your honesty.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 18:48

Lonewolves wrote:

Yeah parrying normal enemies is something I can do quite easily, but I had to abandon it for the cleric beast as I just couldn't time it properly.

It's quite good for gascoigne -

(fight at about 2:30)

Even despite a few errors, and entirely messing up the backhit with the music box and also missing the final visceral attack, manage it on my first try with this tactc.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 18:51

Fight at about 3:30.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 18:54

Thought I'd kipped the cut scene...

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 19:12

I don't think you can.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 20:21

Skip cutscene? you certainly can. Kip through a cutscene, I imagine tha's also possible

myp · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 20:59

Thanks Dave. I went looking for him earlier. Didn't find him but found two areas I hadn't found before and leveled up to 20 in the process. :DD

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Mon Mar 19, 2018 21:11

Lonewolves wrote:

Thanks Dave. I went looking for him earlier. Didn't find him but found two areas I hadn't found before and leveled up to 20 in the process. :DD

And you probably still haven't every area available to you.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

I cleared out the rabble around the fire, avoided the big lumpen thing. Pushed on, had about 4000 blood echoes but nothing of note to spend them on in the hunters dream. Fell down on to a walkway populated by man rats, just hoping to find a way back to the hunters dream that is not back at the start. Killed by a man rat. Now I'm miles from my blood echoes and no idea how to get back there.

Turned it off

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Mar 20, 2018 0:24

Hint - once you've beaten up the bonfire mob walk through the door and smash the barrels near the fence to find a gap. Kick in some dogs and head for a house with a closed door. Go through the house (don't go upstairs) and then up some steps. Open up your first shortcut gate.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Mar 20, 2018 0:41

Findus Fop wrote:

I cleared out the rabble around the fire, avoided the big lumpen thing. Pushed on, had about 4000 blood echoes but nothing of note to spend them on in the hunters dream. Fell down on to a walkway populated by man rats, just hoping to find a way back to the hunters dream that is not back at the start. Killed by a man rat. Now I'm miles from my blood echoes and no idea how to get back there.

Turned it off

Yeah the start is pretty brutal I think. Weirdly the game gets easier once you activate the doll and can level up and find blood shards to upgrade your weapons. Now I'm making mincemeat of two brick trolls at a time, although the weird pole beasts can sometimes surprise me.

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