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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:51 
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Last year she said that ditching Johnson would only please Putin. Utterly disgusting.

If you want to see someone make a complete arse of themselves, read or watch Lia Nici's speech. It's so awful that if I lived in Grimsby I would deny any association with that place.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:24 
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Looks like Thames Water is going up the spout. Yet again the government will be bailing out failed privatisations at the taxpayers' expense. It's almost as if the second the money stops flowing they expect the government to flush them out.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 13:45 
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So earlier today there were reports that the government were planning to house some asylum seekers who had tested postive for TB on their new 'f#ck off back to France boat' , and there were a lot of comments around how this was a really bad idea.
However no one needs to worry about that because part of their tests before putting people on came back today (after they had already put a number of people on) , to show that there were traces of Legionella on board , and they now have to evacute everyone

As shambles go I really think about all they can do to top this is put Trump in charge ?


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 20:05 
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It's both painfully inhumane, and embarrassingly incompetent.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 20:48 
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All part of the plan to distract the public from this.

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You will have all seen the news reports and heard the discussions about housing asylum seekers on the Bibby Stockholm barge. You will have no doubt have also heard the appalling language government ministers have been using about people who are seeking sanctuary from persecution and torture. But this is all a smoke-screen for something else that has been happening this week that will affect every single one of our friends.

The government are determined that they will not open any new hotels to house this summer's expected influx of asylum seekers. So this week, with no notice, the government has implemented a 'hotel maximisation scheme'. It has quietly removed the legal requirements about room size and over-crowding that usually applies to Houses of Multiple Occupancy in the case of asylum seekers, and applied these revised rules to the temporary hotel accommodation. This means that all the rooms that are single occupancy in our women and families hotel will become twins.

Our friends who have been living in their own room for many months (nearly 2 years in some cases) will now have to share with someone they don't know, who may not be the same religion or even speak the same language. There is no communal room at the hotel as it has been converted to a twin bedroom so there is nowhere for the 15 children we suppoprt to play.
As you can imagine, this has caused a lot of distress at the hotel, especially as for some the first time they heard about it was when they were handed single sheets instead of double. We are expecting 18 new arrivals over the next few days.
In the case of the men's hotel, the contractors are looking into adding bunk beds to triple the capacity.

Our colleagues at other hotels have similar issues - one hotel is doubling from 250 to 500! And none of the support groups have been informed about this - we are expected to find the resources to add 18 women to our english class, fund a bigger bus to get them into town, find them all clothing, get them to their health appointments and generally advocate for them. We are already exhausted.

Why is this happening? Well, the govenrment have spectacularly failed to process enough of the backlog of asylum claims, meaning that people are still stuck in hotels. In fact, the numbers arriving is 17% lower than at this time last year, but it is taking AT LEAST 2 years to get through the asylum system. This country could easily absorb the 35,000 asylum seekers that arrived last year - we need people to boost the workforce - but it hasn't yet processed the 32,000 that arrived in 2021, or the 30,000 that came in 2020.

So when you hear people talking about the Bibby Stockholm Barge, or the Minister using the F word, please tell them what is really going on and how utterly appalling and inhumane it all is.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:20 
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Why is this happening? Well, the govenrment have spectacularly failed to process enough of the backlog of asylum claims, meaning that people are still stuck in hotels. In fact, the numbers arriving is 17% lower than at this time last year, but it is taking AT LEAST 2 years to get through the asylum system.



I did actually think we'd said that we have simply stopped processing *any* asylum claims at all so we just keep finding places to store people but they are all permanently 'non' people because they dont exist.

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There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example,” said Oats. “And what do they think? Against it, are they?” said Granny Weatherwax.
“It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”
“Nope.”
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“There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.
“It’s a lot more complicated than that . . .”
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 13:35 
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Trump, 77, faces 91 criminal charges under four indictments, for state and federal election subversion, retention of classified records and hush-money payments to a porn star.


Absolute lad.

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Do people celebrate the Trusserversary in September or October? Or does everyone have a 50-day bacchanal?


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:15 
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I had honestly forgotten that Liz Truss had ever been PM. It was literally only last year!


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:19 
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Some day, a pub quiz victory will rest on knowing she was Big Liz's last PM.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I've already had success at a quiz (Cottage last year I think) for being able to remember the exact date upon which Big Liz finally popped it.

Rapidly approaching the first anniversary of her shuffle, and the fortieth anniversary of my ejection into the world.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I had honestly forgotten that Liz Truss had ever been PM. It was literally only last year!


It was all worth it for this Stephen Collins cartoon.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-6-attack

in "fuck around and find out" news:

“Please show me mercy,” Tarrio asked US district judge Timothy Kelly. “I ask you that you not take my 40s from me.”

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:56 
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Yeah, serves him right, except he'll be let out when Trump gets back in next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Yeah, serves him right, except he'll be let out when Trump gets back in next year.


Nah, Trump doesn't give a fuck about these guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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He doesn't care about anyone but he knows his base.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 12:59 
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Kern wrote:
Squirt wrote:
I had honestly forgotten that Liz Truss had ever been PM. It was literally only last year!


It was all worth it for this Stephen Collins cartoon.

This is brilliant


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 18:40 
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This is good a place as any…


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Theatres are getting hammered by that too. I was meant to see Phil Wang on Friday but it's been cancelled :(

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Grim... wrote:
Theatres are getting hammered by that too. I was meant to see Phil Wang on Friday but it's been cancelled :(


There's plenty of hospitals, court buildings and other public sector stuff too.
I expect the scale will grow and grow over the next few weeks and be a much larger problem to deal with than unsafe cladding.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 21:01 
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There's a lot been going on the last few years but you know what phrase hadn't popped into my head randomly until just now?

Stop the planet I want to get off.

Of all the things, it was a response to fucking Sunak delaying the petrol/diesel car sales ban to 2035. Because consumers shouldn't be out of pocket.

So where's the 50p cut in fuel duty then? Or having electricity be billed by what the real generation mix costs instead of all by the most expensive part?

Just the completely brazen nature of it.


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