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Author: | Malc [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 13:44 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: Did she outlast the lettuce? |
Author: | Malc [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 13:53 ] |
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2,300 days ago David Cameron was Still PM (just over 6 years and 3 months), whomever is next, will be the 5th in that time period. (If Boris comes back is he the 3rd and the 5th?) |
Author: | Kern [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 15:28 ] |
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I'd say the party would be out of its mind to bring Johnson back from the wilderness, but then they did elect Truss. |
Author: | Malc [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 15:37 ] |
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Imagine it though Johnson becomes PM again Standards committee says he is unfit to be an MP By-election is called in his seat He loses Imagine that |
Author: | NervousPete [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 17:28 ] |
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Well some Tory MPs are apparently saying they'll trigger by-elections in their own gaffs if he announces he's serious about standing again, so double wow. So glad to see the Tory party unified once again in this moment of crisis. |
Author: | MaliA [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 19:15 ] |
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I note it was fairly easy for Truss to go. Even with war in Ukraine ongoing, and the energy crisis at home. |
Author: | NervousPete [ Thu Oct 20, 2022 22:05 ] |
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I swear to God, if 'somehow Boris has returned!' happens I'll be protesting once every three weeks in London until I get my general election. |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 0:01 ] |
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Malc wrote: Imagine it though Johnson becomes PM again Standards committee says he is unfit to be an MP By-election is called in his seat He loses Imagine that I'm not a fan of Boris, so I would find that funny.... hilarious, delicious even..... but then again it wouldn't be good for the country, and it would just end in a load of pissed off people (both anti boris, and of course the pro-boris gammons). Plus, it makes the country look like an absolute laughing stock, internationally. |
Author: | Malc [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:00 ] |
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Pretty much my exact thoughts. |
Author: | GazChap [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:22 ] |
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Sir Taxalot wrote: Plus, it makes the country look like an absolute laughing stock, internationally. The ship has very much sailed on this one already. |
Author: | BikNorton [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:13 ] |
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Not just sailed but holed itself on the harbour wall and carried on out to sea anyway. |
Author: | JBR [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 15:55 ] |
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I'm in North Yorkshire. Yesterday in Haworth, the people at the next table were united in their belief that "Boris" should come back, he was a bit naughty but he was surrounded by idiots (and I think they thought it was all the idiots' fault). And today, having stopped in tiny Rishi's* constituency, in a well-to-do horse racing town, population , more or less the same conversation was going on in the cafe. Look North had just been through asking if there should be an election. They walk among us. I used to rely on Yorkshire folk for good sense. * Seriously. I hadn't realised how little he is - once you see it, you can't unsee it. |
Author: | NervousPete [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 16:37 ] |
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I'm waiting to hear that argument myself so I can point out that he appointed said idiots and deliberately purged everyone who was a non-idiot when he got in so he wouldn't be having any leadership challenges. I really hope that those people are aberrations because, Christ help us, if the electorate put that bastard back in at the next general election I don't think I'll ever have anything but utter contempt for my own country ever again. |
Author: | JBR [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 16:48 ] |
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I really wanted them to look my way and include me in their conversation. I was three pints in, mind, and so were they, so it would probably all have ended in laughter. They seemed like they would listen and ignore, rather than get punchy, had I thrown in "possible narcissistic sociopath" or, my preference "genuinely worthless piece of shit". |
Author: | Malc [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 16:52 ] |
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Don't forget, racist, homophobic serial liar |
Author: | markg [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 19:14 ] |
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NervousPete wrote: I'm waiting to hear that argument myself so I can point out that he appointed said idiots and deliberately purged everyone who was a non-idiot when he got in so he wouldn't be having any leadership challenges. I really hope that those people are aberrations because, Christ help us, if the electorate put that bastard back in at the next general election I don't think I'll ever have anything but utter contempt for my own country ever again. If the public get to vote on something then the worst thing wins. And that's just how it is I'm afraid. |
Author: | Kern [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 14:05 ] |
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Sunak wins the poisoned chalice. |
Author: | Malc [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 14:10 ] |
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It's Rishi... Ri-ri-ri-rishi (Rishi) Rishhhhhhhhhhhhhhi |
Author: | DavPaz [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 15:32 ] |
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Amazing. The second choice to Liz Truss is now in charge. Forgive me if I skip the bunting for now. |
Author: | Kern [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 16:02 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: The second choice to Liz Truss is now in charge. I thought the Tories loved First Past The Post. |
Author: | Malc [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 16:20 ] |
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WTF was that speech? Camera/autocue not in the same place, so making it really obvious that he was reading from one, unsure what to do at the end, like he was expecting more? No questions taken, about 90 seconds long All very odd, a slightly more confident Liz Truss? |
Author: | Kern [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 17:52 ] |
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He was pretty robotic and the speech was devoid of anything meaningful. About the only pleasure I'm getting is the thought that i might finally never have to think about or look at Johnson ever again, and for that small mercy I am most graceful. |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Mon Oct 24, 2022 23:42 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Sir Taxalot wrote: Plus, it makes the country look like an absolute laughing stock, internationally. The ship has very much sailed on this one already. Quote: Not just sailed but holed itself on the harbour wall and carried on out to sea anyway. Even one of our little, local, frankly pretty poxy radio stations was making fun, referring to 'Rishi Soon-sacked' |
Author: | Kern [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:41 ] |
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Ah, I always love the bit between PMs where the country free-wheels for a few minutes. |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:52 ] |
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It's that feeling of weightlessness and lack of inertia at the zenith of a trampoline bounce. |
Author: | Malc [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:58 ] |
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Isn't it supposed to be a bad omen when there is an eclipse as a new leader takes power? |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 11:09 ] |
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A comet did for Hazza. |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 17:04 ] |
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Publicity shy Wrexham Football Club look to quickly sweep this under the carpet and make sure politics is left back where it belongs, especially no comments on the right wing (please stop - Ed) https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... iver_email |
Author: | Warhead [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 17:48 ] |
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FFS. Braverman re-appointed as Home Sec. Why??? |
Author: | Kern [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 18:48 ] |
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It's the time of year when the boundaries between worlds are at their weakest. |
Author: | Kern [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 18:50 ] |
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Warhead wrote: FFS. Braverman re-appointed as Home Sec. Why??? Could quite probably say that about most of them. What's worse is the thought that there are Tory MPs who didn't make the cut. |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Oct 25, 2022 18:58 ] |
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Kern wrote: Warhead wrote: FFS. Braverman re-appointed as Home Sec. Why??? Could quite probably say that about most of them. What's worse is the thought that there are Tory MPs who didn't make the cut. Imagine the thought running in your head that you are less competent than her. |
Author: | Malc [ Sun Nov 06, 2022 13:51 ] |
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https://twitter.com/MichaelWarbur17/sta ... 1607329793
Seems apt at the moment (when is it not?) |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:59 ] |
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The results of the US Midterm elections are starting to come in, and it’s looking like actually the Democrats could do ok. It’s not appearing to be the predicted Republican surge which is nice. With the Brazilian election a week or so back kicking Bolsonaro out , this is the second time I’ve woken up and not been disappointed by the results. It feels odd. |
Author: | Mr Russell [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:55 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: The results of the US Midterm elections are starting to come in, and it’s looking like actually the Democrats could do ok. It’s not appearing to be the predicted Republican surge which is nice. With the Brazilian election a week or so back kicking Bolsonaro out , this is the second time I’ve woken up and not been disappointed by the results. It feels odd. Are the midterms just mock exams? Like, nothing actually changes, but here's how you might do if this was a real election? |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:45 ] |
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Mr Russell wrote: Are the midterms just mock exams? Like, nothing actually changes, but here's how you might do if this was a real election? Sadly not. Losing one or other part of Congress seriously damages the chances of legislative success, and opens the door for all manner of political games such as not passing a budget causing government shutdowns. The House of Representatives (elected every two years, with the new House starting in January) also has the power to impeach, whilst the Senate can block judicial and governmental appointments. Mostly affects domestic issues, but from an international position a really strong set of results for the Republicans would likely seriously damage any further funding for Ukraine or climate policies. The part of the President usually does badly in mid-terms, so this is a very good result, but still not as good as before. Of course, also many state elections and referendums also take place, with abortion rights in particular being a major issue - Vermont and Michigan have both voted to protect the right into their constitutions. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:46 ] |
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Dr Zoidberg wrote: The results of the US Midterm elections are starting to come in, and it’s looking like actually the Democrats could do ok. It’s not appearing to be the predicted Republican surge which is nice. With the Brazilian election a week or so back kicking Bolsonaro out , this is the second time I’ve woken up and not been disappointed by the results. It feels odd. Yes! Very relieved about Bolsonaro but it was tighter than we would have hoped. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:08 ] |
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Meanwhile, Gavin Williamson has resigned under a cloud again. Expect him back round the cabinet table within a month so we can start the cycle again. |
Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 09, 2022 19:04 ] |
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Kern wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: The results of the US Midterm elections are starting to come in, and it’s looking like actually the Democrats could do ok. It’s not appearing to be the predicted Republican surge which is nice. With the Brazilian election a week or so back kicking Bolsonaro out , this is the second time I’ve woken up and not been disappointed by the results. It feels odd. Yes! Very relieved about Bolsonaro but it was tighter than we would have hoped. But that wasn't exactly a fair election with lots of voter suppression. Take that out and it'll be much clearer. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:42 ] |
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The BBC are reporting a series of police raids across Germany on far right nutjobs planning to storm the parliament and restore the monarchy. Quote: A German man referred to as a prince called Heinrich XIII, 71, is alleged to have been central to their plans If he's 71, has he been using that title his whole life? Mate, it's not going to happen. Just LARP instead. |
Author: | Squirt [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:35 ] |
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I think they might have the wrong Heinrich here - the insane numbering system of the House of Ruess makes it hard to track down. I'm not certain how the House of Ruess can possibly claim the Imperial German throne, but one of them was married to Anni-Frid from Abba for a while, which gives them as good a shot as anyone I guess. |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:48 ] |
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Did he say "Take a chance on me" and she wanted to be his dancing queen? |
Author: | Squirt [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:55 ] |
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Huh, Anni-Frid from Abba's full title is Her Serene Highness Anni-Frid, Countess of Plauen. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:59 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Did he say "Take a chance on me" and she wanted to be his dancing queen? Giphy "applause": https://media4.giphy.com/media/l9Tllo1thElT5gvVOU/giphy-loop.mp4 |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:00 ] |
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Squirt wrote: Huh, Anni-Frid from Abba's full title is Her Serene Highness Anni-Frid, Countess of Plauen. Amazing. Thanks for that! |
Author: | DavPaz [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 14:45 ] |
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It's impressive, but let's not forget just how many aristocrats the old HRE had... Attachment: 817px-Droysens-26.jpg
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Author: | Kern [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 15:08 ] |
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Agent: So you and a group of far-right nutters, including ex-police and military, dress up in stupid clothes, attempt to storm parliament, and try to take Germany back to 1871? Act: Ja! Agent: And what do you call your act? |
Author: | MaliA [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 16:47 ] |
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Kern wrote: Agent: So you and a group of far-right nutters, including ex-police and military, dress up in stupid clothes, attempt to storm parliament, and try to take Germany back to 1871? Act: Ja! Agent: And what do you call your act? Hahha brilliant! |
Author: | BikNorton [ Sat Dec 24, 2022 19:44 ] |
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I went to Tesco late this afternoon before it shut at 6 with Helens words rattling in my ears - "it'll be chaos!" It was even quieter than during the first lockdown, no queue at the petrol pump or checkout and everything I wanted still there. I'm not sure I'd put money on the reason being that everyone else prepared well in advance this year Bags of sprouts were down to 19p and they were putting stock out ready for post-Christmas reopening. |
Author: | Kern [ Wed Jan 04, 2023 14:29 ] |
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Looks like Channel 4 privatisation is off the cards again. At least until another administration starts sniffing around for things to flog. |
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