Political Banter and Debate Thread

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5053

Kern wrote:

The pound continues to plummet. Wonder if we'll hit parity today?

Not just yet, but it’s not good. Anything traded in USD has just become more expensive, and then when interest rates go through the roof, more people will lose out.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10021

BikNorton wrote:

I'll spoiler my ongoing whimsy.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

All this hopping over to Ukraine when the next fire happens isn't just deflection is it; he's hoping it *does* drag on for years. Along with his baffling contortions that every gut-punch is actually the people telling him to carry on he's gearing up for "can't change prime minister when our friends in Europe need us most" and a "delayed" general election. He's got a year now the no-confidence vote failed.

Ukrainia has *always* been at war with Russasia.

Turns out the Tory party said "hold my beer".

To destroy our currency within a week, despite the distraction of the monarch nipping out to the shops, is impressive enough. But to then say "see you all in two months"... The only good that could come of this headlong rush into a cheesegrater would be a Truss version of good old

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10021

Literally the next thing I did was spill my beer.

Touche, karma.

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Sep 28, 2022 8:49

I checked my MP's Twitter feed and she still has up all the pro-Budget "lines to take" she'd dutifully retweeted during the announcement.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:56

I'm still trying to process the awfulness of Truss's local radio interviews this morning. So pitifully bad it's hilarious.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16516

If that's how she is in a room with a local journo how's she going to cope across the table from Putin or someone? Absolutely fucking hopeless.

GazChap · **Posted:** Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:27

Bold of you to assume she wouldn't be under the table.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25414

http://kamikwasi.tax/

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5053

The government have decided to do a U Turn on their tax fiasco, and abandon the removal of the 45p rate.
They think that will calm the markets, but it’s only a small portion of their borrowing to fund tax cuts so I doubt it’ll help much.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

The government have decided to do a U Turn on their tax fiasco, and abandon the removal of the 45p rate.
They think that will calm the markets, but it’s only a small portion of their borrowing to fund tax cuts so I doubt it’ll help much.

In a statement, the Chancellor says "It is clear that the abolition of the 45p tax rate has become a distraction", adding "we get it, and we have listened"

The intention to introduce the 45p tax rate was the distraction.

With my cynical head on I'd say that distraction was exactly what was intended, and that it's quite possible that they were going to announce a U-turn on this all along. But if they think this will take attention away from other appalling elements of the mini-budget, they're mistaken.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:24

So tanking the country last week was all for nothing. It's going to be a long two years.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Kern wrote:

So tanking the country last week was all for nothing. It's going to be a long two years.

It wasn't for nothing, we're waterproof now.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16516

Warhead wrote:

The intention to introduce the 45p tax rate was the distraction.

With my cynical head on I'd say that distraction was exactly what was intended, and that it's quite possible that they were going to announce a U-turn on this all along.

I think you're indulging a fantasy where we're being governed by evil yet clever, competent people who actually know what they're doing. But we aren't, they're just evil fucking morons.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3159

Even the statement is wrong, isn't it? "We have listened, and we get it" makes sense. But no, can't say that. Instead - we came to realise it was wrong, and only then did we decide not to completely ignore everyone and everything other than the DickheadBrexitEconomistsofDoom.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 03, 2022 15:15

As I moved to get off the train in Brum yesterday, I saw this fella and his trackie top. Not sure if this was serious, given the Tory Party conference was in town.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38360

That's a genuine Arsenal sponsor.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 03, 2022 15:42

Amazing.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

markg wrote:

Warhead wrote:

The intention to introduce the 45p tax rate was the distraction.

With my cynical head on I'd say that distraction was exactly what was intended, and that it's quite possible that they were going to announce a U-turn on this all along.

I think you're indulging a fantasy where we're being governed by evil yet clever, competent people who actually know what they're doing. But we aren't, they're just evil fucking morons.

You may well be right, or it could have been Dead Cat advice from those sneaky sods in Tufton St.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2022 14:06

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... his-winter

Oh

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2022 14:06

"The emergency plan need would need to be approved by King Charles on the recommendation of the business secretary"

Oh

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Oct 06, 2022 18:11

MaliA wrote:

"The emergency plan need would need to be approved by King Charles on the recommendation of the business secretary"

Oh

That's a heck of a lot of buck-passing. Or even Chuck-passing.

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:13

10 minutes in PMQs and I am not sure I can take much more torment.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:24

Energy price guarantee

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:27

Switched over to the radio so I don't have to look at her. The Amiga speech synthesiser had more emotional range.

NervousPete · **Posted:** Wed Oct 12, 2022 13:38

MaliA wrote:

Energy price guarantee

Wish I'd known that was the correct answer for every question, then my team wouldn't have come last in the cottage quiz.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:51

"Back again? Dear, oh, dear"

Haha

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5053

Kwarteng has been sacked as chancellor. Expect Liz to deny any knowledge of the contents of the mini budget beforehand.

TheVision · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:30

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

Kwarteng has been sacked as chancellor. Expect Liz to deny any knowledge of the contents of the mini budget beforehand.

No, he can't have been? He was only on the radio just yesterday and he promised, 100%, that he'd still be chancellor this time next week.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5053

TheVision wrote:

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

Kwarteng has been sacked as chancellor. Expect Liz to deny any knowledge of the contents of the mini budget beforehand.

No, he can't have been? He was only on the radio just yesterday and he promised, 100%, that he'd still be chancellor this time next week.

Would you like to buy some magic beans? They are guaranteed to help the economy.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:51

Another normal day in a normal country

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 13:39

It's Jeremy Hunt's turn!

NervousPete · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 15:37

I've just heard that with the recent losses and a lack of volunteers Liz is going to sign a mobilisation order. I'm expecting to be drafted to her new cabinet any day now.

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 15:53

It's quite glorious that the only times I'm reminded that Johnson's lot spaffed millions on a truly ugly press conference room is when political disasters happen inside it. The place is cursed.

Kern · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2022 17:09

NervousPete wrote:

I've just heard that with the recent losses and a lack of volunteers Liz is going to sign a mobilisation order. I'm expecting to be drafted to her new cabinet any day now.

Don't worry. The combination of the postal strikes and the government's inherent uselessness will mean at best you'll be too old when it finally arrives, and at worst railway minister of Peru.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:21

Looks like Hunt has borrowed something from the Doctor Who playbook and pressed the magic reset button so the mini-budget never actually happened.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:24

MaliA wrote:

Energy price guarantee

Oh

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 15:07

Kern, in early July wrote:

Are there any morning flights to South America? Asking for a friend.

Any evening flights? Peru's nice this time of year. Asking for another friend.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 15:47

If I were a sinking prime minister desperately clinging to office, I wouldn't let anyone else take my place unless I knew they would be even worse.

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3159

The level of self-awareness needed to work that out, though. I mean, I can look through the party and see incompetence and worse everywhere. But worse? Tough one.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:16

Mordaunt has had shorter hours of her life...

NervousPete · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:28

Mordaunt: "I'm sure there will be opportunity to hear from the PM sometime in the next 24 hours."

23 hours later...

Hunt: "I believe you have a message for the House of Commons, Elizabeth?"

Truss: "I surely do. What we are doing is I'M GOING NOW MY PLANET NEEDS ME." (ascends out of shot on a rope in herky-jerk manner to slide-whistle noise)

NervousPete · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:39

From £150 million Brexit-Bus fun to brutal 'economic decisions of eye-watering difficulty'. So glad all the hopes and dreams of Brexit they sold the electorate panned out so well.

Also, why is Liz smiling in that eerie vacant way? Erk, did she launch the missiles?

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:46

Maybe Truss is Charlie's practice PM? An opportunity for him to practice keeping quiet before they release him to the tougher levels.

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:47

NervousPete wrote:

From £150 million Brexit-Bus fun to brutal 'economic decisions of eye-watering difficulty'. So glad all the hopes and dreams of Brexit they sold the electorate panned out so well.

Project Fear!

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:48

Kern wrote:

NervousPete wrote:

From £150 million Brexit-Bus fun to brutal 'economic decisions of eye-watering difficulty'. So glad all the hopes and dreams of Brexit they sold the electorate panned out so well.

Project Fear!

Stop talking Britain down!

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2022 16:49

We inherited the situation from the previous administration!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38360

NervousPete wrote:

From £150 million Brexit-Bus fun to brutal 'economic decisions of eye-watering difficulty'. So glad all the hopes and dreams of Brexit they sold the electorate panned out so well.

Also, why is Liz smiling in that eerie vacant way? Erk, did she launch the missiles?

She's clearly had a breakdown and is on some nice medication

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10021

Wait, a *different* eerily vacant smile? I thought that was just her.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5053

I'm curious... does reversing all the tax changes make the new Chancellor part of the Anti-Growth-Coalition?

Sir Taxalot · **Joined:** 5th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 4631

NervousPete wrote:

I'M GOING NOW MY PLANET NEEDS ME." (ascends out of shot on a rope in herky-jerk manner to slide-whistle noise)

I understood that reference.gif

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