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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:45 
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OFF WITH HIS HEAD.

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I'm going to have to buy a shed load of popcorn.

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OFF WITH HIS HEAD.


From Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/com ... the_first/

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So does Lizzie chop his head off now? What happens next?

By 1965, capital punishment had been abolished for almost all crimes, but was still mandatory for high treason until 1998.

On 20 May 1998 the House of Commons voted to ratify the 6th Protocol of the European Convention on Human Rights prohibiting capital punishment

He's been saved by Europe.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/1 ... 8277489664




Some pro no deal Brexit propaganda concentrating on what’s important, there. Not medicine, not funding, not trade. People coming back from holiday will get their booze a bit cheaper.

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Blue passports AND duty free?

This Brexit Dividend is really paying out.


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Blue passports AND duty free?

This Brexit Dividend is really paying out.

But the duty free limits will be tiny in comparison to what you can bring in from EU countries currently. Just one litre of spirits, for example :D

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Mimi wrote:
https://twitter.com/hmtreasury/status/1171454868277489664

Some pro no deal Brexit propaganda concentrating on what’s important, there. Not medicine, not funding, not trade. People coming back from holiday will get their booze a bit cheaper.


I've said this to my chums. If an alien came down to the UK after 9pm it would swear we were a nation of gambling alcoholics. I don't watch TV much but I record car shows and every advert I skip is gambling and drinking. Every show is sponsored by some casino. It's just nuts.

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Fuck, I knew I shouldn’t have given up smoking before Brexit.


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Fuck, I knew I shouldn’t have given up smoking before Brexit.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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With the exception of cigarettes, duty free has been shit for years.

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It was never the same after Keith Barron died.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Grim... wrote:
With the exception of cigarettes, duty free has been shit for years.


Even for cigarettes, go further abroad than France or Germany and the duty evaporates anyway.

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It was never the same after Keith Barron died.


This amused me but then quickly made me sad as I hadn't realised he had died.


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Oh no, sorry, didn't mean to deliver that news so flippantly. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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With the exception of cigarettes, duty free has been shit for years.


Even for cigarettes, go further abroad than France or Germany and the duty evaporates anyway.

And the cigs just go up in smoke.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Lord Keen v Lord Pannick. It sounds like something out of Gormenghast.

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Labour conference could be a laugh.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I see the a Labour Brexit discussion and vote ended in a clear way forward

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Not looking good for HM government ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261

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Joris Bohnson

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Bercow (long BBC link)

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Government lost the vote to have a recess next week

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MPs have voted by 306 to 289 against the government's motion calling for a three-day parliamentary recess next week.


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Breathtaking over-reach and abuse of power. If this had happened at Mini Fop's school I'd have been apoplectic.

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Is Kern alright or has this excitement made him pop? I look forward to his analyses.


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Is Kern alright or has this excitement made him pop? I look forward to his analyses.


He's on holibibs, up a mountain in Turkey

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I’ve seen this about a bit today. I try not to assume drink/drugs when it might be something medical, but I think in either of those scenarios it might be something that needs looking into as it would suggest that he may not be well enough or fit to carry on the position, surely?

https://evolvepolitics.com/watch-michae ... ns-debate/

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Is Kern alright or has this excitement made him pop? I look forward to his analyses.


He's on holibibs, up a mountain in Turkey

Glad as I am he's alright, this is a completely unacceptable state of affairs.


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What news to come down from the mountains to. Hahahaha etc.


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The government is “looking very seriously” at making vaccinations compulsory for state school pupils and has taken advice on how such a law could work, the health secretary has said.

Matt Hancock, a vehement critic of anti-vaccination campaigners, has previously suggested such a plan. Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative party conference, he said he was “very worried” by falling vaccination rates, indicating the government could act soon.



I'm quite caught between my beliefs that all children should be vaccinated and how I feel the state should, at most, be a guiding hand.

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It's a terrible plan that would only add fuel to the idiot-fire that is the whole anti-vaccination movement.


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Whereas I would fully support this except that it would just fuel the flames of anti-vaxers believing vaccinations are a government conspiracy.

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It's a great idea in principle, but I doubt it'd do much - anyone that is an anti-vax conspiracy theorist isn't magically going to have their kid vaccinated because of this, they'll just take them out of school and home-school them instead.

Which, arguably is better for any kids in said school that are at risk from immunosuppressant disorders etc. but is most likely going to negatively impact the education of the kids that are taken out of school.

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What they need to to is make sure the kids went to school, good, well-funded schools and we don't end up with another generation of fucking dum dums who fall for this bullshit.


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MaliA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/29/government-seriously-considering-compulsory-vaccinations-matt-hancock
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The government is “looking very seriously” at making vaccinations compulsory for state school pupils and has taken advice on how such a law could work, the health secretary has said.

Matt Hancock, a vehement critic of anti-vaccination campaigners, has previously suggested such a plan. Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative party conference, he said he was “very worried” by falling vaccination rates, indicating the government could act soon.



I'm quite caught between my beliefs that all children should be vaccinated and how I feel the state should, at most, be a guiding hand.

They already have this in... New York? I think it’s New York, but certainly one or more states.

In practice it amounts to the fact that they can’t physically enforce it, nor deny a child an education, so if your child isn’t vaccinated you have to pay a fine. I think it’s about $100. I think that’s workable, but the fine REALLY needs to be on a sliding scale, because $100 is a huge amount to some and kindling to others.

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Oh, I got a few details wrong. It was only a few neighbourhoods in NY (to start with... I think that expanded) and the fine was $1,000. And the courts upheld the fines against those that didn’t get their children vaccinated if you google the story.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ccinations

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Rory Stewart is standing down at the next election. I only became aware of him during the leadership campaign but was impressed by what I saw. A loss to the Commons, I fear.


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The thing with all these "moderate" Tories stepping down is, that they are likely to be replaced by more right leaning Tories in any upcoming election. In many places anything blue will get elected. Doesn't this in effect push the Conservatives even further to the Brexit Party? Whereas if they'd stood as an independent, they would surely take some blue votes with them, and possibly let in a different party, which might cause the Tories to reflect on their direction of travel?

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Aye. I'm increasingly worried that the Tories are aping the US Republicans in appealing evermore to a rabid base rather than seeking a broader church. Whilst it might be temporarily successful for them electorally, I don't think it will provide the party opportunities for long-term growth, and it makes the body politic extremely dirty and nastier than is currently the case.


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Rory Stewart is standing down at the next election. I only became aware of him during the leadership campaign but was impressed by what I saw. A loss to the Commons, I fear.


The 'Full Disclosure' Podcast with James 'O Brien and Rory Stewart is an excellent listen.

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Kern wrote:
Rory Stewart is standing down at the next election. I only became aware of him during the leadership campaign but was impressed by what I saw. A loss to the Commons, I fear.


Instead he’s going to stand for London Mayor, which is annoying. We’ve got a centre-left Mayor, and if Rory stands it’s hard to tell who he pulls more votes from; Sadiq or whatever stuffed suit the Tories are putting up this time.

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The decision by itself makes sense. Being mayor of London is a way to remain politically relevant whilst being outside of the Parliamentary fray. The equivalent of hiding in the Worcester until it all blows over. But he's up against a very strong incumbent, and it's hard to see where his support would come from outside the Tories. He might be aiming to get sufficient second-choice votes from Labour, Lib Dems, and Tory loyalists to pull it off, but I'm not sure what his chances are without a political machine behind him.


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Kern wrote:
But he's up against a very strong incumbent.


I wouldn't be so sure, my sister in Law has voted Labour every time there's been an election, but she really doesn't like Kahn and some of the decision's he's made. She doesn't think she will vote for him, and was thinking Green/Lib Dem (first/second choice). If there are others like her, then he might not be as safe as he'd like.

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Out of interest, do you know what decisions she is against?

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