Wow, I’ve literally never heard this facile argument before. Please continue to blow my mind

Black politicians get far more abuse than white ones and face harsher scrutiny for their actions
Female politicians get far more abuse than male ones and face harsher scrutiny for their actions
Left leaning politicians face harsher scrutiny for their actions than right leaning one (in the MSM)

I don't know if this black, female left leaning politician has been recalled because she is those things, but I think it's more likely to happen to her than a white male, right leaning politician.

Maybe stop making assumptions about people then, and you won't get that response?

It was a reasonable assumption. If you are not a white male for the purposes of the discussion of invisible privilege when it comes to race and gender then I apologise profusely.

Or you could stop derailing and deflecting—up to you, fella.

White male, straight, middle class was what you complained about being labelled as, after you had literally just labelled me as that. Yet it's white male that is the issue, are you not a white male?

No complaint, it was an aside. My main point followed, which you roundly ignored. Because you’re continuing to deflect.

Black politicians get far more abuse than white ones and face harsher scrutiny for their actions
Female politicians get far more abuse than male ones and face harsher scrutiny for their actions
Left leaning politicians face harsher scrutiny for their actions than right leaning one (in the MSM)

I don't know if this black, female left leaning politician has been recalled because she is those things, but I think it's more likely to happen to her than a white male, right leaning politician.

There are uncontested sitting tenants in our locals - and they haven't produced a ballot, which means we can't go and spoil them.

That can't be right can it?

I was going to watch the election results, but I just can't face it. All the coverage is about Brexit, the pollsters are saying that the public are voting due to their opinion on Brexit.

It's fucking local elections! You're voting for who organises the fucking bin collection! Pick a person who will do what you want done in your local community. Fucking Brexit, fucking idiots.
I can't vote because my local council fucked up so badly they can't afford to even run an election, it's all just a very poor joke.

Overheard someone moaning that they weren't going to bother voting because "there's not even the Brexit party on there".

"will you vote for me"
"No, because the party you are in are (whatever). Change that and I very much would"

And then they go away and feed back this to the party who say "doing this cost us this, and we see it over a wide area" and then the policy gets changed.

Fair point, well made.
I was very frustrated last night, but have woken up in a better mood after seeing the results so far.

If there was a UKIP or Brexit Party box on every ballot paper that they would have stormed it, sadly.

It's fucking local elections! You're voting for who organises the fucking bin collection! Pick a person who will do what you want done in your local community. Fucking Brexit, fucking idiots.
I can't vote because my local council fucked up so badly they can't afford to even run an election, it's all just a very poor joke.

The best form of government is a benevolent dictator.

The best form of government is a benevolent dictator.

The best form of government is a benevolent dictator.

Morporkians are in no doubt that Vetinari is firmly in charge of the city; the political system of Ankh-Morpork is described as "One Man, One Vote," in which Vetinari alone is the Man, and he has the Vote.

My mum won and Labour took control of Trafford.

I don't think even the greatest and most benevolent of rulers could solve Oxford's transport problems.

The best emperor was Norton, of course.

@kern I think I just said the same thing in t'other thread. Separation of powers it's getting a bit complicated.

"It can hardly be called a definitive victory for "remain" if they secure 55% of the vote.".

Reading pistonheads, someone posted a link to the yougov polls that show 55% of people currently back remain.

The following reply was posted, with no sense of irony...
"It can hardly be called a definitive victory for "remain" if they secure 55% of the vote."

Amazing.

I find Pistonheads to be quite an unpleasant place to interact with.

Aside from the really shitty forum software there, it's absolutely chock full of that sort of right wing intolerant nonsense and once you've been there for a while you can predict how every single discussion will turn out.

It's a shame, as I'd like to find a decent general motoring related forum.

Labour Government could pay less than one-third of the water industry’s market value to bring it back into public hands, the shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has said.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/john-mcdonnell-puts-price-on-renationalising-the-water-industry/amp/



Not sure I like this.

Four Members whose surnames begin with an S. I call Mr Barry Sheerman.

I trust the hon. Member for Kettering (Mr Hollobone) will go about his business with an additional glint in his eye and spring in his step, buoyed by knowledge of the approbation he has received from the Minister on the Treasury Bench describing him as “wise”; I have a feeling it will be framed and appear in an important and public part of the hon. Gentleman’s home.

Not surprised by Johnny Mercer's decision to quit. When he was on 'Have I Got News For You' the other week he looked deeply unhappy, even before Hislop's the five minute interrogation over payments.

The issue around investigations of former soldiers during the Troubles has been brewing for a while in Tory circles (at least from what I gather from the press and conversations with Tory friends, especially ex-military ones). I don't feel informed enough to form a proper opinion, other than some vague general sense about the need for all sides to work to understand the truth and seek reconcilation no matter how uncomfortable dealing with the past and individuals' actions make us.