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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:04 
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Still, tea with Brenda, later, could prove interesting.


Is it wise to leave Melania with Phillip?


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Still, tea with Brenda, later, could prove interesting.


Is it wise to leave Melania with Phillip?

Let's face it, he can't be wore than what she's already got.


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Theresa May met President Donald Trump at :belm: heim Palace.

EDIT: corrected for what I was actually going for


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Theresa May met President Donald Trump at Blemheim Palace.


I get what they were trying to do, but it probably wasn't gaudy or ostentatious enough for him.


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He is coming to Sandhurst today with May to watch some military demonstrations

Sinister black helicopters flying around a 5-mile radius of the Military Academy. Think these aren't even US they are ours doing practise sweeps.


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Still, tea with Brenda, later, could prove interesting.


Is it wise to leave Melania with Phillip?

Let's face it, he can't be wore than what she's already got.


I would really, REALLY love to hear what Phillip has to say about Trump. If only he hadn't given up public engagements, we might have been treated to one of his legendary asides.

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Holy fucking shit, the US Congress went insane this week. I saw some clips on Twitter but I had no idea how bad it was.



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Some photos I took at the Together Against Trump rally yesterday: https://www.facebook.com/richardgaywood ... .522899041


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https://twitter.com/NadineDorries/statu ... 2527324160





Nadine Dorries there, saying that Tommy Robinson could be the UK's Trump/Macron.


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I see our favourite MRA MP has publicly stated that he has sent a no confidence letter about the PM.

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I see our favourite MRA MP has publicly stated that he has sent a no confidence letter about the PM.

Do not blame him

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I see our favourite MRA MP has publicly stated that he has sent a no confidence letter about the PM.

Do not blame him


Whilst I have no confidence in her, he’s doing it from the perspective of not trusting her to enact an extremely Hard Brexit.

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Is reaching the letter threshold enough in itself to trigger a leadership contest, or does it just trigger a confidence vote that can lead to one?


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Considering the 1922 committee were apparently asking people to stop sending letters next week because they were nearly at the threshold, I assume it's automatic.

Oh - automatic confidence vote, I mean.

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Triggers a no confidence vote, as I understand it. Or would if parliament wasn't in recess...


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 14:15 
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Triggers a no confidence vote, as I understand it. Or would if parliament wasn't in recess...

A Parliamentary vote of no confidence in the government isn't the same thing as a Conservative Party vote of no confidence in their leader, though. Not least of which is that the latter isn't a Parliament vote, as only Conservative MPs take part. Can the latter happen while Parliament is in recess? I see no reason why it can't in theory. https://qz.com/1324945/this-is-what-it- ... -minister/ doesn't mention it.


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Trooper wrote:
Triggers a no confidence vote, as I understand it. Or would if parliament wasn't in recess...

A Parliamentary vote of no confidence in the government isn't the same thing as a Conservative Party vote of no confidence in their leader, though. Not least of which is that the latter isn't a Parliament vote, as only Conservative MPs take part. Can the latter happen while Parliament is in recess? I see no reason why it can't in theory. https://qz.com/1324945/this-is-what-it- ... -minister/ doesn't mention it.


Ahh, that's exactly what I was after, thank you. I'd read a handful of articles but they all missed out details.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Does smack a bit of nimbyness though. It's got to be somewhere.


It's more fitting in a shittier village though, where house prices are already low.


Basically, yes

Lovely.


At what loint should one stop tolerating aggressive begging and discarded needles?


Walking down the road last night and boke came up to me last night and wanted money so I told him I didn't have any change and he told me to "Piss off" then followed me for a bit. Long story short, I've asked local police and counciller what the plan is to deal with such aggressive begging.


I had a chat with the policeman dude and he thinks he knows who it is and they're working towards criminal asbos and the like. It remains a discussion point as to what help the state and private citizens should provide.


http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... he_public/

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Last weekend Shipley Neighbourhood Policing Team had issued five dispersal orders to aggressive beggars in Saltaire and Shipley but by that night, two had breached the orders.

Shipley MP Philip Davies said the conviction was good news. “Aggressive begging is certainly an issue in Shipley which intimidates shoppers, particularly elderly people and deters people from coming into the town centre which then damages all shops and businesses. It is an issue I have raised in the House of Commons,” he said.

“I very much welcome this conviction and hope that Bradford Council and West Yorkshire Police do everything they can to tackle it.”

There we go.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/n ... n-shipley/

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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A shocking indictment of Grayling's performance at probation:

http://politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/ ... part-again

Unfortunately there's a whole load of buffoonery and incompetence going largely unreported thanks to Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... the-tories

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Also note that the Commons CMS committee's damning report into Vote Leave, Facebook, lies, and Russian ties was also published right when there's no government available to press with questions on it.

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Collusion isn’t a crime. He’s right.

The same way that Pussy Grabbing and Pulse Stopping aren’t crimes.

They’re just called conspiracy (or maybe treason), sexual assault and murder.

Sadly for Don, I don’t think that he’ll win over any courts with semantics. Unfortunately about 35% of the population of the USA think every word he says is gospel truth, so he’ll probably get away with it.

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Why is it so hard for people to realise that you can be anti-Isreal without being anti-Semitic?


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Why is it so hard for people to realise that you can be anti-Isreal without being anti-Semitic?

Probably because they are actually anti-semites.


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Seems the current choice in Britain is between the pro-Brexit anti-Muslim party and the pro-Brexit anti-Semitic party.


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If only Tony Blair could save us all with a new pro-Remain Centrist party, everyone would vote for him.

Or there's always the Lib Dems. *



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The 1997-2001 model was pretty good.

I've recently been reading about the John Major years. How I yearn for a return to Back to Basics...


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Remember when people said Major was boring like it was a bad thing?

I could go for some boring in politics right now.


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And Edwina Currie's sweet sweet loving action.

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Remember when people said Major was boring like it was a bad thing?

I could go for some boring in politics right now.

People tend to forget that "May you live in interesting times" is a curse, not a blessing.


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And Edwina Currie's sweet sweet loving action.


The old hag now lives in the town I grew up in in the Peaks. The bleachworks are no longer the most reprehensible thing about the place.


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My current holiday reading is Grimson's Prime Ministers by Andrew Grimson. It's a collection of short biographies of every Prime Minister from Walpole onwards, each accompanied by a caricature by the Observer's Martin Rowson. Very easy to dip in and out of, and a spur to find out more about some of the lesser known tenants of Number 10.

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Lord Goderich [1782-1859; PM 1827-28] could not stand the strain of being Prime Minister. At moments of crisis he tended to burst into tears


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If we ignore Boris Johnson, will he just go away?


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Always fun when a piece of legislation I thought was practically empty gets tested for the first time, and it couldn't have involved a nicer person:

BBC: Ian Paisley: North Antrim recall petition opens


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Interesting (if slightly typo-ridden) piece in Wired about the current railway ticket mess.
Doesn't address issues such as capacity management or reservation-only v walk-up systems, but does set out how complex the current institutional structure is and how much would have to change to see real progress.


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Why is it so hard for people to realise that you can be anti-Isreal without being anti-Semitic?


Semantics.

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Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen both convicted. Wonder how long before Mr Trump denies ever having known them?


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Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen both convicted. Wonder how long before Mr Trump denies ever having known them?

He's said that he's considering pardoning Manafort.


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There are no words to describe Trump any more ...........

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Do you remember well over a year ago when Bristol Police taser ed their own race relations guy and we talked at length about it?

Good.

Right.

Not guilty.

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There are no words to describe Trump any more ...........



It amuses me how often he folds his arms at the end of a meeting or press conference, like a toddler going into a sulk.

And who the fuck is shouting ‘Make your way out,’ repeatedly in these clips? It’s like a bar person trying to get the drunks to leave at closing time.

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The press secretary or a deputy.

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One the one hand it's good that there are folks slyly taking away Trump's ability to do damage, and mitigating the disasters, from within the administration.
On the other hand, they weren't elected and they are making a mockery of the democratic process by sidelining the sitting president. If he is a disaster, then article 25 him and get someone else, don't just take it upon yourself to decide what is best for the country. You aren't a resistance fighter, your are part of a coup...


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Well, the person writing the op-ed is clearly a Republican who is proud of the ‘achievements’ on things like tax cuts for billionaires and crackdowns on immigration. So they wouldn’t want to go too far in discrediting the Republican Party, and is basically using Trump as a useful idiot. So yeah, they’re MUCH happier with Trump in power than the residual party damage of A25.

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Choo-choo news now!

According to the Guardian , in response to a report about a complete lack of leadership and control during the recent timetabling snafu, Chris Grayling has said that "it's tough for any politician to overrule the advice of the professionals", implying that we haven't had enough of experts after all.


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