Political Banter and Debate Thread

Kern · **Posted:** Sat May 26, 2018 9:20

Congratulations Ireland. Once again, Northern Ireland is the outlier.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

This won't end well
https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/sta ... 9541781505

Pedos and their agents are now arresting those who oppose them, in ENGLAND! #FreeTommyRobinson @Nigel_Farage @POTUS #Pedogate
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 26, 2018

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38458

What the actual fuck?

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Barr is a well known right-wing conspiracy theorist. She was a birther and has made references to pizzagate. The American right is championing Tommy Robinson because of course it is.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10074

At what point does a world get to say "stop this species, I want it off me?"

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon May 28, 2018 10:35

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rbyn-unite

Quote:

Labour’s biggest union backer is giving away a thousand tickets to an event billed as Jeremy Corbyn’s very own Glastonbury, amid serious fears that it will lead to major losses for the party.

Unite announced to members that it was giving away the tickets and even offered free travel to the event in London for those who need it.

This has greatly amused me and I think shows how far Labour have lost their way.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

I thought that Glastonbury was Jeremy Corbyn's Glastonbury.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1001520719627419655

#Roseanne' canceled at ABC following racist tweet https://t.co/Gc8hihZgIm pic.twitter.com/rvDVXHzQPr
— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) May 29, 2018

Kern · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 7:23

Scotland news now.
Holyrood is to vote on whether Shetland should be in a box on maps and diagrams. Obviously, we should encourage truth in cartography, and I look forward to maps of the US with Hawaii and Alaska portrayed at the right scale, and a far more accurate portrayal of all the French overseas departments than the Euro banknotes currently show.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 8:40

Can someone explain what is going on in Italy for me?

Kern · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 8:53

MaliA wrote:

Can someone explain what is going on in Italy for me?

Two populist parties were the big winners in the election. They proposed a cabinet to the Italian president, who rejected the nominations, but no other parties can form a viable coalition, so limbo time.

The Beeb have a good explainer.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16557

Kern wrote:

Two populist parties were the big winners in the election. They proposed a cabinet to the Italian president, who rejected the nominations, but no other parties can form a viable coalition, so limbo time.

That seems like a really sensible idea. If everyone could do that and solve their disagreements with a dance-based contest the world would be a better place.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16557

Apart from all the dancing everywhere, obv. But it would be a price worth paying.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 9:48

Yes, but then you'd get nations lurching to the left, to the right.....

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 19:29

If you ever need complicated news stuff explained simply, NewsBeat and NewsRound are really good.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2018 22:11

MaliA wrote:

Yes, but then you'd get nations lurching to the left, to the right.....

Jump up and down and to the knees

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 07, 2018 19:54

MaliA wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/26/labour-live-festival-corbyn-unite

Quote:

Labour’s biggest union backer is giving away a thousand tickets to an event billed as Jeremy Corbyn’s very own Glastonbury, amid serious fears that it will lead to major losses for the party.

Unite announced to members that it was giving away the tickets and even offered free travel to the event in London for those who need it.

This has greatly amused me and I think shows how far Labour have lost their way.

Still amusing.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Gosh. Geordie Grieg (Mail on Sunday editor) is replacing Paul Dacre as Daily Mail editor. He and Dacre are political opposites.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

markg wrote:

Kern wrote:

Two populist parties were the big winners in the election. They proposed a cabinet to the Italian president, who rejected the nominations, but no other parties can form a viable coalition, so limbo time.

That seems like a really sensible idea. If everyone could do that and solve their disagreements with a dance-based contest the world would be a better place.

Especially if they all had tea and toast as well.

Morte · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:12

Cras wrote:

Gosh. Geordie Grieg (Mail on Sunday editor) is replacing Paul Dacre as Daily Mail editor. He and Dacre are political opposites.

...and supposedly despise one another.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:22

Morte wrote:

Cras wrote:

Gosh. Geordie Grieg (Mail on Sunday editor) is replacing Paul Dacre as Daily Mail editor. He and Dacre are political opposites.

...and supposedly despise one another.

Private eye gleefully keeps tabs on the two papers throwing shade at each other

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:52

Yesterday, the House of Commons debated the crucial issue of a box for Cornish people to proclaim their identity in the next census, and quickly grasped the key point:

Chloe Smith (Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office) wrote:

I understand the argument that a tick box has been seen as essential in getting to questions of cultural identity, such as ethnicity, national identity and language. However, the innovation of an online questionnaire means that we can add a drop-down box with a “search as you type” option.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6507

Wow, May looks profoundly uncomfortable here. I think her logic processing unit has got stuck into a loop.

https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/10 ... 7321361408

Amazing range of looks from the PM pic.twitter.com/0lF7OurwBT
— Esther Webber (@estwebber) June 13, 2018

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2018 13:16

Blimey. She looks wrecked in that, whilst the Foreign Secretary is grinning like the Cheshire Cat at her discomfort and the attention on him.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2018 13:27

BOOM! HEADSHOT!

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2018 13:33

Only fair to praise Mr Corbyn for that. Well done Jeremy.

Haven't caught with this but apparently there's an exciting twist later on in the episode.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Squirt wrote:

Wow, May looks profoundly uncomfortable here. I think her logic processing unit has got stuck into a loop.

Can't be. She hasn't got one.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2018 17:19

What? Mr Trump's charitable foundation, modestly titled 'the Trump Foundation', might have been a bit dodgy?

BBC wrote:

The lawsuit alleges that the foundation paid $100,000 (£750,000) to settle legal claims against Mr Trump's Mar-A-Lago resort, $158,000 to settle claims against one of his golf clubs, and $10,000 to purchase a painting of Mr Trump to hang at another of his golf clubs.

BBC

I'm shocked.

Giphy "shocked!":
https://media3.giphy.com/media/jquDWJfPUMCiI/giphy-loop.mp4

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:11

MaliA wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/26/labour-live-festival-corbyn-unite

Quote:

Labour’s biggest union backer is giving away a thousand tickets to an event billed as Jeremy Corbyn’s very own Glastonbury, amid serious fears that it will lead to major losses for the party.

Unite announced to members that it was giving away the tickets and even offered free travel to the event in London for those who need it.

This has greatly amused me and I think shows how far Labour have lost their way.

Still amusing.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/tickets- ... s-11405121

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 15:21

I’m sure we can all agree that taking photos up the skirts of women without their consent is a creepy and bad thing.

So it went to Parliament to put it in line with other similar offences.

It was nearly filibustered by Friend of the Forum, Philip Davies, and then shouted down by SIR Christopher Chope, who objected to it.

Cheers, Tories, you weird sex offenders.

Squirt · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6507

I'd genuinely like to know their motivation for doing that.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 15:42

Without looking, I'd say "fairness to men having their bodies photographed"

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 16:04

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2 ... UseOfForce)Bill

Ah. Here we go.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Squirt wrote:

I'd genuinely like to know their motivation for doing that.

The pair of them are complete fistulas.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 16:26

Cras wrote:

Squirt wrote:

I'd genuinely like to know their motivation for doing that.

The pair of them are complete fistulas.

Davies has said before that a lot of the proposed legislation requires scrutiny lest poorly drafted laws find their way on to the statute book, hence the many questions posed and clarity of definitions sought. Even though the principal might be good (free parking at hospitals for carers), the execution less so (there was little to no definition of carer, in this instance). A goal without a means is just a dream, as I like to say, and, such definition is important.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Also Davies is a fistula.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2018 19:04

I think yer man just needed time to delete some pics from his phone.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10074

I see seasonal workers are now getting a visa exception as well.

It's good to see the British tradition of forming a simple but ineffective law then amending it to high buggery is already bank in full swing.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:43

Senior Tories are advocating for legalising weed. If I were a young person, I'm not sure that the promise of a joint would take my mind off the government's disdain for our future.

But I'm not, and whilst I agree in principle, I really don't like the smell of weed.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:51

Mali! Stop tweeting to lords!

Quote:

Lord Adonis:
My Lords, does the noble and learned Lord know whether Karl Marx is public or private property?

Lord Keen of Elie:
My understanding is that there is no right of property in a body.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:52

This is why we have a House of Lords:

Quote:

Lord Selkirk of Douglas:

Does the Minister accept that in the past I have had a particular interest in this because one of my ancestors was buried in an Egyptian sarcophagus? When efforts were made by respected members of the public to recover the sarcophagus, it could not be found. Perhaps I may say that where private sector measures impact on the public sector, it can often give rise to offence if it means interfering with other graves.

Lord Keen of Elie:
I am obliged to my noble friend for his question. I am not aware of the present whereabouts of the sarcophagus in question.

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:43

BOOM!

Check out @xtophercook’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/ ... 6514889728

I once asked a (no longer in post) cabinet member if they thought if Chris Grayling was the minister with the worst record in govt in recent times. They asked for time to consider the question. Then said they didn't know enough about post-war history. https://t.co/Mz7NuctldA
— Chris Cook (@xtophercook) June 22, 2018

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:00

Fun fact*: He were a school friend of mine.(Mr Cook, Not Mr Lamb)

* - For certain definitions of fun.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Scenes

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1011234592198680576

Boris Johnson flies to Afghanistan to avoid voting on Heathrow expansion - Politics live https://t.co/oaMr7pmlKl
— The Guardian (@guardian) June 25, 2018

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2018 14:19

We should be pleased that he's not in the country and that his obvious chicanery has probably further harmed his chances of the top job.

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

Boris Johnson has said quitting over the issue of Heathrow expansion would "achieve absolutely nothing"

So that's us all set straight.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

UKIP is going alt-right.
Paul Joseph Watson [InfoWars], Count Dankula, Sargon of Akkad & Milo Yiannopoulos have all just joined.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... into-party

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkVkTnag9hS/

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2018 21:28

Oh good. Actual Nazis!

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:46

Speaking of which, Mr Trump is apparently going to have dinner at Blenheim Palace when he graces these shores next month. He'll probably find it a little too restrained compared to his properties.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Jun 28, 2018 15:31

MaliA wrote:

Bit fucked off Nissan have said that they are staying in Sunderland. Doesn't sit right, to me.

oh

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