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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:01 
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Isn't that sort of thing pretty normal, though?

There's supposed to be a better reason than "we heard from our guy who wants to win that the other guy shouldn't win"


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It does lead to thought experiments about how an unscrupulous but determined faction could be to get a majority in the House and Senate sufficient to uphold objections and install a president of their choice. Constitutions and rules are only as effective as the willingness of participants to follow them.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Worth bearing in mind that many of those supporting the objections were probably doing so to maintain the support of their local activist base and keep themselves in a job. Which generally means being a proper MAGA-hat wearing Trumpist, probably Q-curious if not out-and-out believer.


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But the gravy train is about to hit the buffers.

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I'd kind of assumed that Trump would face some sort of attempt on his life over the course of his term as President. I figured someone would have a crack at him before he was even inaugurated.

Yesterday's events brought it into sharp focus that actually, he was never in any danger of that, because the only nutjobs that would try and assassinate the Prez are probably all on his side anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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But even one of the nut jobs on his side might decide to save him from a long jail term by sending him to The Lord Jesus.

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It looks like parler is being removed from AWS. There are a lot of very angry Trump supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1610267704

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It looks like parler is being removed from AWS. There are a lot of very angry Trump supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 1610267704


They'll be even angrier once they realise all their data has been leaked too.

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Just wait til having felony charges ACTUALLY takes their guns away.


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Oh, that's sweet if so :DD

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That is a lovely bit of karma

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Currently watching CNN's coverage of the US House debate on impeaching Donald Trump again. Nobody has yet raised the question of whether inciting an insurrection is on the same level of high crime and misdemeanour as sleeping with an intern.


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Last full day of Trump. I am so looking forward to never having to think about him or his family again. Of course, the comedy industry is likely to suffer most once he's gone. Thoughts and prayers.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Trump is absolutely the sort of person to slip quietly into the night and never be heard from again, so I share your optimism.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:54 
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Trump is absolutely the sort of person to slip quietly into the night and never be heard from again, so I share your optimism.


:D

As polite society frowns upon inciting an insurrection he's likely not to have the pull he once had, particularly once he's no longer able to dispense favours. Some other right-wing demagogue in the Senate or a governorship will take his place and get the cheers. He'll hate it.


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Even by Trump's standards, his attempt to allow people in from some of the highest COVID rates to enter the country to presumably screw over Biden was pretty brazen.

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Even by Trump's standards, his attempt to allow people in from some of the highest COVID rates to enter the country to presumably screw over Biden was pretty brazen.


Yes, these last days are always a mad rush to pass as much as possible that becomes a pain to the successor to undo, and go pardon crazy.

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A statement from the White House press office read simply: "President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings"


That's my out of office message sorted.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Feels odd watching the US inauguration, seeing the odd shot of George W Bush, and momentarily remembering how much I loathed him back in the day.


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Feels odd watching the US inauguration, seeing the odd shot of George W Bush, and momentarily remembering how much I loathed him back in the day.


All that blood on his hands from the Iraq war seems like small potatoes now.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I wonder when Biden will be going to see Kim Jong-un?

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Lady Gaga's golden brooch and microphone is a nice injoke.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Dam good rendition of a notoriously tricky song however.


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J-Lo was great too.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 17:59 
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He narrowly avoided saying "make America great again" there. Good swerve from Biden.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 18:14 
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Excellent speech. Particularly liked the bits about the importance of facts.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Excellent speech. Particularly liked the bits about the importance of facts.

Yep! A lot about healing and unity and so on, but a few little nods to the fuck-ups of the last administration.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Me: Alexa, who is the current President of the United States?
Alexa: The current President of the United States is Joe Biden.

It's definitely official!


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And the ex-President starts his new career as an impersonator, starting with .......
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Can I just say how nice it is to say that Donald trump is no longer the president of the United States.

I may be a little champagne drunk.


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Heading that way too. Good to have something to celebrate for a change. Also watching it all is reminding me of how much I've enjoyed my trips to DC.


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Probably not a fit for this thread, but if anyone needs a reminder on what sort of person K*lly Ann C*nway is, here's an extended video of her repeatedly verbally abusing her daughter.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... way_a_few/

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I watched it, but from what I could see it could be ANY batshit crazy American mom being abusive to her daughter, I didn't see anything that identified her as C-AC.

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Apart from the fact that it was Kelly Ann Conway's daughter who originally posted it.


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This Guardian article about the Grenfell cladding is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've read so far this year.

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the company provided the more flammable version of the panels by default in a marketing strategy that recognised a fire-retardant version that “drastically increases fire resistance” was less likely to secure contracts on price


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This Guardian article about the Grenfell cladding is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've read so far this year.

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the company provided the more flammable version of the panels by default in a marketing strategy that recognised a fire-retardant version that “drastically increases fire resistance” was less likely to secure contracts on price


That is awful..

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Kern wrote:
This Guardian article about the Grenfell cladding is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I've read so far this year.

The Guardian wrote:
the company provided the more flammable version of the panels by default in a marketing strategy that recognised a fire-retardant version that “drastically increases fire resistance” was less likely to secure contracts on price


That is awful..

https://youtu.be/epkCrB8aKXA
For fairly unpleasant but informative viewing, the hosts are suitably disgusted with the situation.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56013464

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Extra £3.5bn to tackle unsafe cladding


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If, like me, you've been struggling to understand the current Alex Salmond/Nicola Sturgeon contretemps, TLDR have a video explaining it all, but that only served to leave me even more underwhelmed.

Of course, when a party is in such a state of ascendency as the SNP are, internal disputes and tensions become far more bloody than in when they're facing opposition.


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Yay! More nukes. That'll fix the NHS.

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Britain is lifting the cap on the number of Trident nuclear warheads it can stockpile by more than 40%, Boris Johnson will announce on Tuesday, ending 30 years of gradual disarmament since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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I was wondering if we can get away with saying we bought more, then just using the money on something more productive.


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Oooo.... exciting.

Get your posts ready!

"This is a good/bad result for Johnson/Starmer and shows that Brexit/Fish/the red wall/statues is still a live/dead issue and confirms my existing prejudices."


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How did they spend so much money on the Downing Street briefing room and make it look so *ugly*?!

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How did they spend so much money on the Downing Street briefing room and make it look so *ugly*?!


Yeah, it's hideous, like some low-budget early '90s minor ITV regional news programme (Westcountry, probably)

I don't feel comfortable with it at all. Ministers should be reporting to Parliament. The whole thing reeks of another attempt by the Johnson crew to control their message and reduce opportunities for scrutiny and criticism. Besides lazy or hard-pressed (delete as preferred) journalists will just use clips from that to fill airtime, and the Tory bots will flood social media with clips showing how Johnson "owns" Brussels etc.

The Tories' current obsession flag-hugging is vomit-inducing, deliberately making it look like they own the thing and hat to oppose them is to oppose Britain.


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Still fuming about the policing bill. It's the kind of thing that people like Johnson were ranting at Labour for doing back in the day. Yet the people of north Oxon are still going to vote blue no matter what. I despair.


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