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Where do the Nazis stand on bin collections?


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Tory MP to face trial over election spending.

Next May, apparently. This could be fun.


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Tory MP to face trial over election spending.

Next May, apparently. This could be fun.

What election spending laws did May break?

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Hehe. Ooops.... The month of May. Not the porn star.


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Tory MP to face trial over election spending.

Next May, apparently. This could be fun.

What election spending laws did May break?


Noice.

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Hehe. Ooops.... The month of May. Not the porn star.

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FFS, imagine if the grown ups behaved like this over everything. :roll:

You've literally threatened physical violence against another member of this forum, right on this board.

Seriously? How many years ago was that; scraping the barrel much?

This was indeed out of order, and I apologise.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I learnt today that most of the Confederate monuments were erected some 90 years after the Civil War, around about the time of the CRM - coincidence? A steel company managed to make them very cheaply and there was a small pressure group who convinced local authorities to put them in parks etc. The poor quality of construction is why they're very easy to tear down.

I guess it would be like erecting a monument to Hitler today. Just really weird.

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Hehe. Ooops.... The month of May. Not the porn star.

James May is, thankfully, not a porn star.


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FFS, imagine if the grown ups behaved like this over everything. :roll:

You've literally threatened physical violence against another member of this forum, right on this board.

Seriously? How many years ago was that; scraping the barrel much?

This was indeed out of order, and I apologise.

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Thank you mate, as I always say it takes the bigger man etc. Much appreciated. :hug:

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Where do the Nazis stand on bin collections?

I was going to make a joke in reply to this, but then realised it was horrifically inappropriate and have held my typing tongue accordingly.

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Where do the Nazis stand on bin collections?

I was going to make a joke in reply to this, but then realised it was horrifically inappropriate and have held my typing tongue accordingly.

It was Mussolini who made the bin collections on time

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horrifically inappropriate and have held my typing tongue accordingly.

Someone on beex not making a joke because it was too inappropriate? I did Nazi that coming.


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Just being Franc - o, that one doesn't quite work, does it?


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You need to be made of the Reich stuff to contribute to this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I'm going to toast the success of this thread with some champagne! ( Cristal, natch )


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I'm going to toast the success of this thread with some champagne! ( Cristal, natch )


Oh, well done sir. :D
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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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My defence is that I'm now an American citizen and don't do silly things like read ;)


Congratulations! Was the test better than the UK one?

This wasn't your first political action? ;) Seriously, what's the mood like in Durham (I think that's where you are in North Carolina)?


No tough questions about American comedians from the 1970s, so I think a touch easier ;) I was actually disappointed that they picked the easiest ones from the 100, mainly!

Amusingly, I have been in NY for the past few days, managing to time a work trip with the President also being about eight blocks away (my timing is wonderful). So I wasn't in Durham to see the statue come down. But! Not only is Charlie Reese my councilor, I used to work for the company he works for, so it was quite something to see him get blasted to Twitter celebrity status.

On the subject of the statue, it's complicated. Firstly, due to the insanity of the NC GOP, it is illegal for Durham, a historically majority black city, to remove that statue. They literally passed a state law to prevent cities doing so. Secondly, these statues were mainly put up in the Jim Crow era as literal symbols of oppression, far removed from the time of the actual Civil War itself (about 50 years on). Finally, these statues shouldn't exist: these people were traitors. Robert E. Lee commanded an army against the United States of America to continue the practice of slavery. The fuck he should have statues all around the country. So while I'm a bit uneasy about the property damage…it's about the 10th worst thing that happened on…wait, it was only Monday?

And our President, seemingly on a daily basis, given a clear and easy chance to say 'Nazis are bad' (perhaps the lowest bar any President could face and even one that W. could dance over), sided with the white supremacists. His White House disbanded anti-right-wing terror operations, Gorka is as close to a literal Nazi as you can possibly get these days, and Bannon ran a website stoking up fears of 'black crime'. The President has advocated violence against protestors, the press, and his political opponents. Sessions is a man that was deemed too racist to be a federal judge back in the 80s. Things are not good. Note also, that thanks to Obama, the economy is in great shape: who knows what'll happen if/when it turns.

On the bright side, I'm having a holiday in the UK next week! Everything is fine there, right, guys? :)


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Where do the Nazis stand on bin collections?

I was going to make a joke in reply to this, but then realised it was horrifically inappropriate and have held my typing tongue accordingly.

It was Mussolini who made the bin collections on time

It was going to be something about how bins always used to (?) have "no hot ashes" written on them.

Can't decide if that's more or less inappropriate than some of the others there ;)

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Peter St. John wrote:
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My defence is that I'm now an American citizen and don't do silly things like read ;)


Congratulations! Was the test better than the UK one?

This wasn't your first political action? ;) Seriously, what's the mood like in Durham (I think that's where you are in North Carolina)?


No tough questions about American comedians from the 1970s, so I think a touch easier ;) I was actually disappointed that they picked the easiest ones from the 100, mainly!

Amusingly, I have been in NY for the past few days, managing to time a work trip with the President also being about eight blocks away (my timing is wonderful). So I wasn't in Durham to see the statue come down. But! Not only is Charlie Reese my councilor, I used to work for the company he works for, so it was quite something to see him get blasted to Twitter celebrity status.

On the subject of the statue, it's complicated. Firstly, due to the insanity of the NC GOP, it is illegal for Durham, a historically majority black city, to remove that statue. They literally passed a state law to prevent cities doing so. Secondly, these statues were mainly put up in the Jim Crow era as literal symbols of oppression, far removed from the time of the actual Civil War itself (about 50 years on). Finally, these statues shouldn't exist: these people were traitors. Robert E. Lee commanded an army against the United States of America to continue the practice of slavery. The fuck he should have statues all around the country. So while I'm a bit uneasy about the property damage…it's about the 10th worst thing that happened on…wait, it was only Monday?

And our President, seemingly on a daily basis, given a clear and easy chance to say 'Nazis are bad' (perhaps the lowest bar any President could face and even one that W. could dance over), sided with the white supremacists. His White House disbanded anti-right-wing terror operations, Gorka is as close to a literal Nazi as you can possibly get these days, and Bannon ran a website stoking up fears of 'black crime'. The President has advocated violence against protestors, the press, and his political opponents. Sessions is a man that was deemed too racist to be a federal judge back in the 80s. Things are not good. Note also, that thanks to Obama, the economy is in great shape: who knows what'll happen if/when it turns.

On the bright side, I'm having a holiday in the UK next week! Everything is fine there, right, guys? :)

This is a great post, written by someone actually there. Thank you!

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This is a great post, written by someone actually there. Thank you!


This! Thanks PeterSJ!

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I'll be honest, my knowledge of history is very poor, so maybe someone could enlighten me on this - my Trump-supporting US friend lives in Baltimore and their city government removed all four confederate statues there overnight. In response to the article on Facebook, she replied "1930's Germany all over again!"

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I'll be honest, my knowledge of history is very poor, so maybe someone could enlighten me on this - my Trump-supporting US friend lives in Baltimore and their city government removed all four confederate statues there overnight. In response to the article on Facebook, she replied "1930's Germany all over again!"


She see it as a kind of iconoclasm?


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Shit, perhaps you're right..... the Night of The Long Corndogs is nigh upon us?
Hot damn, we're doooooomed. :D

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But seriously, if you start chatting with her, use this opportunity to explore what the Confederate statues mean to her, and how others might perceive them.


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But seriously, if you start chatting with her, use this opportunity to explore what the Confederate statues mean to her, and how others might perceive them.


I don't really know her that well and the only reason I've not unfriended her on there yet is I'm curious to see if there's a point when she changes her mind on Trump. He can't seem to do any wrong in her eyes.

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devilman wrote:
I'll be honest, my knowledge of history is very poor, so maybe someone could enlighten me on this - my Trump-supporting US friend lives in Baltimore and their city government removed all four confederate statues there overnight. In response to the article on Facebook, she replied "1930's Germany all over again!"

Yes, anti fascism is the new fascism, apparently. It's like words have no meaning anymore.

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