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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 13:00 
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Since when has professional implied knowledge or competence, let alone expertees ;)

For example, i suspect most of here could be described as professionals...


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So, I'm never playing as Toad in any Mario game ever.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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And yet despite some time passing, Mrs Trump hasn't issued any denials that it looks like a small toad.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Just walked around Albert Dock. Never seen so many people looking uncomfortable in suits.

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Just walked around Albert Dock. Never seen so many people looking uncomfortable in suits.

Are they the wrong size or just made from itchy cloth?

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Is it where the courthouse is, perchance?

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Labour conference

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... arina-hyde

Glorious stuff from Marina Hyde, even by her sky-high standards.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Yes I read that last night, she's awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/03/theresa-may-tory-conference-boris-johnson-marina-hyde

Glorious stuff from Marina Hyde, even by her sky-high standards.


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Theresa May, who mostly resembles a Quentin Blake drawing of an unravelling postmistress


Superb.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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I thought "The Great Twatsby" was a highlight


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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From the BBC

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A 2012 report by the British Automatic Fire Sprinkler Association (BAFSA) concluded that fire sprinklers could be retrofitted with tenants in place at a cost of about £1,150 a flat. Since the 24-storey Grenfell Tower contained 120 flats, it works out at £138,000. Significantly less than the £2.6m spent on the cladding and replacement windows which were largely done for cosmetic reasons.


Currently on the iPlayer is a great programme called 'The fires that foretold Grenfell', I watched it last night.

It focuses on five fires, (including the Summerland disaster on the Isle of Man, and includes some harrowing footage of the inferno in which 50 people died), all of which foretold what would go on to happen at Grenfell.

My blood was boiling by the end of it, time and time again recommendations were made to prevent tragedies occurring in the future, but they were only ever 'recommendations' as making it compulsory would cost too much money and it's only poor people burning to death.

They'd spend money making the towers look nicer for rich people driving past, but not to retrofit sprinklers to, y'know, stop people burning to death in a fire.

A recommended watch.

NOTE - Labour were just as fucking useless in government as the Tories.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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DavPaz wrote:
Hearthly wrote:
fucking useless [...] government

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Here is a bit of what I wrote to my MP the other day expressing this:

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.... this is because I feel that the government should act, in this instance, as a guiding hand for the betterment of the country rather than the current trend to attempt to abdicate this responsibility on grounds of "the will of the the people", or "respect the result of the referendum".... There have been no advantages described and how the UK might obtain them that stand up to scrutiny, and handwaving "will of the people; respect the result" is simply not good enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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David Cameron wants to make a comeback. We know what'll happen. He'll appear on stage, try out some new stuff, then the crowd will start demanding he just plays the greatest hits.


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Kern wrote:
David Cameron wants to make a comeback. We know what'll happen. He'll appear on stage, try out some new stuff, then the crowd will start demanding he just plays the greatest hits.

Luckily, his greatest hit was "getting the fuck off the stage"


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Kind of amazing that shagging a pig is the least embarrassing aspect of his legacy.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Anthony Eden and Lord North must be kicking themselves for not having the foresight to fool around with farm animals.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/ ... -backfires

I am not surprised.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Local council elections here on Thursday, I expect I'll be voting green for the first time in my life, primarily because her pamphlet was basically "I live here and I give a shit". All the others were all about the party and how well supported they were by the MP etc...


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I’d quite happily vote Green in the local elections if they had put up someone that wasn’t a children’s poet.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I’d quite happily vote Green in the local elections if they had put up someone that wasn’t a children’s poet.


Ours is a nurse who works full time in the local hospital.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Trooper wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I’d quite happily vote Green in the local elections if they had put up someone that wasn’t a children’s poet.


Ours is a nurse who works full time in the local hospital.


Yep, that would do nicely.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Banter and Debate Thread
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Why is a nurse a better politition than a writer?

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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/nov/11/nursery-fees-rise--as-free-childcare-pledge-backfires

I am not surprised.


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The research reveals it is predominantly better-off families who are benefiting from the extra £1bn a year set aside by the government to fund free childcare. While the majority (58%) of families who earn £45,000 or more have taken up the offer, just a quarter (26%) of those earning under £20,000 have done so, suggesting childcare remains unaffordable for many low-income parents.


Who'd have thought it?

My wife gave up work to look after our granddaughter from when my daughter-in-law returned to work, and trained as a child minder to bring some money in. My son and his wife would have really struggled to pay for child care. Even now, eight years later, my wife still collects our granddaughter from school four days per week. Even if they could afford child care, their erratic end-of-day and travel times mean they'd be hard pressed to find child care as flexible as us, and I imagine that's a similar situation for a lot of working parents.

Mrs. W and I have lost thousands in income during this time. We don't begrudge it because we have s superb relationship with our granddaughter, but it's put quite a strain on us financially and that's not been helped by her retirement pension qualifying age going from 60 to 67 at a stroke.

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Grim... wrote:
Why is a nurse a better politition than a writer?


Because a nurse can do things to your body that a writer can only write about. And she wears a uniform. (Oooops, sexist assumption that a nurse will be female. Apologies.)

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Are they quitting their job to become a councillor or do it on top of a full-time job?

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Lonewolves wrote:
Are they quitting their job to become a councillor or do it on top of a full-time job?


Generally it is done on top of a job, I think.

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My Dad (labour councillor) started off working and being a councillor at the same time, but ended up retiring and now spends more time doing Counsellor stuff.


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Ever keen to show their relevance and deal with the most important issues facing the country, the House of Lords debated distestablishing the Church of England yesterday.

The good news is that the government have done more work on this than they did before activating Article 50:

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Lord Berkeley:

To ask Her Majesty’s Government what assessment they have made of the case for the disestablishment of the Church of England.

Lord Young of Cookham (Con):

My Lords, none.


They also finished up with a joke, too:

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Lord Elystan-Morgan (CB):

My Lords, does the Minister submit to the canard that the Church of England is sometimes seen as the Tory party at prayer?

Lord Young of Cookham :

Well, a large number of the Tory party were at prayer 10 minutes ago.


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And, in exciting by-election news, Lord Carrington won the cross-bench seat previously occupied by Lord Northbourne. 11 candidates, 31 electors, and 29 votes cast. The actual breakdown was not recorded.

In a oh-dear-I-agree-with-him moment, Lord Blunkett sums up the whole process:

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... if people really knew what we were saying and doing, they would think we had lost our marbles.


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