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GazChap wrote:
PSVR is in the fucking little leagues compared to Oculus/Vive (in terms of positional tracking and motion controllers, although the game library may be more extensive)
Your last bit there is kinda the kicker, isn't it? And from what I've seen I think that may already be true.
I have shamefully barely used my touch controllers - the mitigating factor is that I (we) have far too much stuff and it needs to be stored in that room. I don't really have enough space for roomscale.

On the other hand I've put about 400 hours into the headset itself - I estimate about 390 of those hours are with iRacing though - which is fine as that was the primary use case for me.
Yeah, but if there's one thing I've discovered since getting Touch controllers, it's that VR isn't really all that it's cracked up to be when you're not able to engage in the world that much - and the motion controls and tracking on the PSVR systems I've tried (a friend's, and the one at the Arcade Club) was a serious step back from what I'm used to.
Lonewolves wrote:
I don't really have enough space for roomscale.

My play space is "moderate", and is basically about 1.8m2 (I can't type the superscript 2 character as the Alt+ code triggers a keyboard shortcut in Chrome :P)
Mine is moderate too, when it's clear. Which is not often.
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.


Is it the house over the road from me that Curio isn't moving to? We could have capers!
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?


Buckingham is 1 hour 40 to his work, Shipley is 2 hours 30. Capers!
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.


You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?


Tsk. Nought wrong with Guildford area.
Mr Dave wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?


Tsk. Nought wrong with Guildford area.

It's not London though is it?
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.
Lonewolves wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?


Tsk. Nought wrong with Guildford area.

It's not London though is it?

Train line in isn't bad. Some places are better than living in much of actual London due to quick train lines.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Liar, you're incredibly poor and envious of those who can buy Porsches (on credit agreements). That's the reason you're a hardline lefty.
Mr Dave wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I actually have the space for room scale, right now, I think. Close to it anyway. It'd be uncertain after we move though.

Moving again? :(

Buying, hopefully. End of the year or (more likely) early next.

That's better news!

Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?


Tsk. Nought wrong with Guildford area.

It's not London though is it?

Train line in isn't bad. Some places are better than living in much of actual London due to quick train lines.


https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/ ... -yorkshire
Mr Dave wrote:
Train line in isn't bad. Some places are better than living in much of actual London due to quick train lines.

Tru dat. Bedford station to my office is 44 minutes. South Wimbledon station to my office is about 50 minutes.
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Liar, you're incredibly poor and envious of those who can buy Porsches (on credit agreements). That's the reason you're a hardline lefty.


A friend works for a car dealership. They had a 60k porsche in. They sold it. Before they could move it to the owner, she used her own money to pay the finance off that her employer had used to buy it to sell it because the business had no cash. Her own cash. Madness.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Wasn't there a bloke who lived in a Lamborghini because he reasoned that "you can live in a car but you can't drive a house" ?
GazChap wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Wasn't there a bloke who lived in a Lamborghini because he reasoned that "you can live in a car but you can't drive a house" ?

I'm gonna go ahead and guess he wasn't married.

Related: http://uk.businessinsider.com/google-em ... ot-2015-10
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Wasn't there a bloke who lived in a Lamborghini because he reasoned that "you can live in a car but you can't drive a house" ?

I'm gonna go ahead and guess he wasn't married.

Related: http://uk.businessinsider.com/google-em ... ot-2015-10

That's amazing.

Mods - split please?
What do you want split, the house-buying talk or the living in a Lamborghini bit? If the latter, just start a new thread with it, you lazy shite ;)
Cras wrote:
What do you want split, the house-buying talk or the living in a Lamborghini bit? If the latter, just start a new thread with it, you lazy shite ;)

Wow, Trump levels of projection there.

When's the next mod election? These ones have become fat, lazy and corrupt.
"Become"?
I like cock.
MaliA wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Liar, you're incredibly poor and envious of those who can buy Porsches (on credit agreements). That's the reason you're a hardline lefty.


A friend works for a car dealership. They had a 60k porsche in. They sold it. Before they could move it to the owner, she used her own money to pay the finance off that her employer had used to buy it to sell it because the business had no cash. Her own cash. Madness.

Wait, you're going to have to explain that further. My pitiful human brain literally cannot parse that long sentence into anything that makes sense.
Squirt wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Will it be somewhere stupid like Guildford or Buckingham though?

Barring a collapse in London house prices, yes. But I am assured Brexit will be a stunning success and that won't happen.

You'll probably have money left over to buy a Porsche.

My house deposit + stamp duty is easily into buy-a-Porsche-outright money (sob). But you can't live in a Porsche.

Liar, you're incredibly poor and envious of those who can buy Porsches (on credit agreements). That's the reason you're a hardline lefty.


A friend works for a car dealership. They had a 60k porsche in. They sold it. Before they could move it to the owner, she used her own money to pay the finance off that her employer had used to buy it to sell it because the business had no cash. Her own cash. Madness.

Wait, you're going to have to explain that further. My pitiful human brain literally cannot parse that long sentence into anything that makes sense.

I didn't understand either but it's best just to smile and nod where Mali is concerned.
She used her own money to settle the finance on the car so that the dealership could legally sell it. She presumably then got her money back from the dealership.
Ahhh, I see. Hmm, if your workplace needs to borrow money off you to pay for it's stock, it might be worth checking your CV is up to date.
Mr Dave wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Soooooo my GTX 970 theoretically brings a technohat within reach, right?

Give the steam vr performance thing a try.

That's better than I expected.
That's fine. SteamVR seems to be a bit more stringent than Oculus requirements.
I'm surprised it thinks my 2008-era CPU is OK, though. I should probably benchmark it against a modern i7. It's sufficiently obscure that it's not very easy to find comparable numbers for.
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I'm surprised it thinks my 2008-era CPU is OK, though. I should probably benchmark it against a modern i7. It's sufficiently obscure that it's not very easy to find comparable numbers for.

For example
Yeah, I just dug out some CPUMark comparing it to the i5-6600 which was the same result: a little over half the speed.
Oculus finally offering replacement accessories for sale:
http://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-now-sell ... cessories/
Mr Dave wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Superhot VR is a bit fucking great, innit?

It's on my wishlist, waiting for it to be a bit cheaper.


Jesus, I've just watched this and I'm sorely tempted to splash some cash on VR.

Oh and there's that robot shooter too, where you grab the heads and shit. Bloody hell there's some great looking VR titles that're making my bum twitch.

Satsuma wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Superhot VR is a bit fucking great, innit?

It's on my wishlist, waiting for it to be a bit cheaper.


Jesus, I've just watched this and I'm sorely tempted to splash some cash on VR.

Oh and there's that robot shooter too, where you grab the heads and shit. Bloody hell there's some great looking VR titles that're making my bum twitch.



Superhot and Robo Recall are easily some of the most fun I've had in games, ever. I'm shit at Robo Recall, though.
Ok, so /i got a new (early access, bah) game for my vive, also available with oculus touch. Sairento VR (translation: Silent VR)

A game about being a not particularly silent ninja. Dashing and jumping around with slow motion abilities and swords and guns and stuff. Quite overwhelming at first, mind. But probably the best vr game I've played yet.

I'd link to a video, but finding one that isn't inhabited by an annoying youtuber, an old build or both is too much to ask for.


See your keyboard in VR!!
Seems good. Need it to work on Oculus as well though.
That Logitech logo is quite similar to the old Commodore logo.
I'll do this in a more relevant thread in case Hearthly sees me and flies into a rage.

What's this Mixed Reality thing, then? I'm going to watch a few youtube vids. Be right back!
This Mixed Reality platform seems like it could be a slightly more affordable option.

Room scale tracking with no external sensors too.
So after a lot of reading around and YouTube, I reckon I'm going to get a Windows Mixed Reality headset. Probably the Samsung model with the built in headphones.

Having free movement room-scale VR without external sensors is a big plus for me as it's likely that it's going to get moved around a fair bit from the man-cave to the kids playroom and back.

It hooks into Steam VR and the controllers are button compatible with the Vive.

And it's £400. I'll probably get on in January if funds allow.
Nice! I'm very much looking forward to seeing what the increase in resolution does for the screen door effect. Also if there's a better FOV.
The Samsung claims 115°
Also iRacing needs to support it first, natch.
Lonewolves wrote:
Also iRacing needs to support it first, natch.

Does that have it's own ecosystem or is it hooked into Oculus?
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