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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:17 
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Well this is depressing. Not that proof were needed that this country is populated by a majority of absolute morons.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well... fuck.

Silver linings to all this? Umm... interest rates aren't likely to rise anytime soon?

This is a bit i dont understand at all. Is the fact that I just fixed my mortgage for 2 years really fucking bad?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Like almost 70% Brexiters round here it turns out. I don't want to go outside. At least after the election I knew that I wasn't surrounded by fucking Tories where I live. Same feeling all over again. Knew this was coming right from back then, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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krazywookie wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Well... fuck.

Silver linings to all this? Umm... interest rates aren't likely to rise anytime soon?

This is a bit i dont understand at all. Is the fact that I just fixed my mortgage for 2 years really fucking bad?


Who knows. Currency tanking may mean an interest rate rise in the short term, but the global depression this is likely to trigger may mean they stay low for decades to come.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I have a couple of questions.

1. Can I still buy Euromillions lottery tickets?

2. When will the first new hospital be opening?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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So. Everywhere voted out then, except London?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Manchester and Liverpool voted remain.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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4 out of the 5 districts in the Shire did. Mine went 'Leave' by a handful of votes. Grrr...


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well for fuck's sake, I never actually expected the Leave crazies to win.

Congratulations to the fine Conservative Government for giving the people of Britain this historic chance to blow their own fucking feet off.

I am on leave this week, I expect to be watching the news all day. Cameron is going to have to go, surely? Holy shit Boris might actually be PM.

Can we have Gordon Brown back?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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So. Everywhere voted out then, except London?

The Glorious South Hams voted remain.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MaliA wrote:
So. Everywhere voted out then, except London?

And Scotland. Bring on indyref2 I say, a vote for the UK was a vote for the Eu was it? Pffffft


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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What happens with the Irish/NI border now then? It'll be the only land border between the EU and the UK. and border control will need to be massively stepped up, won't it? That could have serious ramifications.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I have a Dutch friend living in Japan who Tweeted: 'Is it fun, England, to know that all you needed to do to change the whole world was pick up your ball and leave the game? Feel powerful now?'

I feel her anger, towards us, and towards me. My vote did not helpsave the situation, and I'm actually just really upset.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Cameron resigning


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Is he? Actually? I've been waiting for news. Fuck

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Cameron speaking now, rumours are he's going to resign. (I've got BBC News 24 on.)

...........

And.... He's gone. Blimey. (Out by the start of the Conservative conference in October, he says.)


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:31 
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Gove or Boris for PM then. Well done everyone! :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:31 
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Get used to seeing those words.

Europe really is a stunningly poisonous subject for the Tories, isn't it?

'Stop banging on about Europe' Cameron once said, and the subject of Europe has taken him out.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Corbyn can't be far behind I expect, if not this week then pretty soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Indyref2 now almost certainly will happen given Scotland overwhelming voted Remain. I'm going to start looking into relocating to Edinburgh and claiming Scottish citizenship before the split!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Trooper wrote:
What happens with the Irish/NI border now then? It'll be the only land border between the EU and the UK. and border control will need to be massively stepped up, won't it? That could have serious ramifications.


They can't close the border. Not without repealing or amending the Good Friday agreement, and that's a really, really bad idea...

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I think it’s very unfair to characterise “leave” voters as crazies and morons. Mrs K voted leave for some fairly sound reasons, and we had many a discussion over it, but I remained a Remainder, whilst respecting her views. Mind you, her views weren’t based on “urgh, forrins” like so many others. Perhaps people voting leave should have had to pass a test as to whether their reasons for voting leave amounted to more than “the Sun told me to”.

And all those Leavers who were pissing and moaning about the democratic deficit – where we you in the last few General Elections when turnout was the lowest, like, ever? I expect to see sky high turnouts from now on.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Indyref2 now almost certainly will happen given Scotland overwhelming voted Remain. I'm going to start looking into relocating to Edinburgh and claiming Scottish citizenship before the split!


Bring on LondonRef

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Who the PM will be during the stinking aftermath is really neither here nor there, surely? The immediate future is going to be filled with rich, self-interested people trying to keep a grasp on their money while everything falls down around them.

How can over half of a country think that their tiny island in the sea has any hope of maintaining the tariffs and trade deals negotiated by Brussels on behalf of the EU states? The rest of the world is going to look at Boris, bimbling around, stamping his feet like an entitled old colonialist and say "Fuck you Britain".

Brexiters will be all over Facebook whinging how much more expensive a pint is compared to last year in the Costa Del Sol, next month.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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How can over half of a country think that their tiny island in the sea has any hope of maintaining the tariffs and trade deals negotiated by Brussels on behalf of the EU states?.


TBF, other countries manage it without help. e.g. Australia, Japan etc.

Also, mega-heh at "tiny island in the sea" from someone living on a literal tiny island in the sea. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well, Japan's economy has been a disaster area for the last decade.


Lindsay Lohan is going to be so very disappointed in Britain.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:00 
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Fuck. Fuuuuuuuuk. This really is almost too much to bear: fuckwits win by 2%, everything is unraveling before my eyes. At this rate, scrabbling back up that slippery bank these last 6 years will have been for nowt.

Well, I hate to be bitter, but I hope people are proud of themselves in the coming weeks, months and years. Cretins.

Farage speech was unlistenable

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Of course the worst part of all this is that we no longer have a leg to stand on when pointing and laughing at Americans voting for Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Especially not when we get Boris as PM. We won't even be able to laugh at his fucking hair.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Indeed Cras. Ignorance is strength, huh.

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Especially not when we get Boris as PM. We won't even be able to laugh at his fucking hair.


The fact the knobhead has a huge surfeit of hair is just the icing on the cake for me :D
But actually, I don't feel like joking around today. Very sad

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Especially not when we get Boris as PM. We won't even be able to laugh at his fucking hair.


The fact the knobhead has a huge surfeit of hair is just the icing on the cake for me :D
But actually, I don't feel like joking around today. Very sad

Ah fuck it. It's done now.


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Well, Japan's economy has been a disaster area for the last decade.

for other reasons. My point was, as you we ll know, that countries of a size with us, and indeed smaller, have been able to achieve trade deals with all and sundry without having to rely on a supranational institution to help them.

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And we'll be well in there with President Trump.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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“My feeling about the Labour party is that it is drifting without guide map, compass, or strong voice. The problem for Labour voters during this entire referendum is that most of the time, most of them did not know what the Labour party’s position was...When they really set to and started galvanising the party in the way they did, we still had a situation where at best Jeremy Corbyn’s voice was curiously muted and when he did say anything there seemed to be mixed messages to Labour voters.


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I have a Dutch friend living in Japan who Tweeted: 'Is it fun, England, to know that all you needed to do to change the whole world was pick up your ball and leave the game? Feel powerful now?'

I feel her anger, towards us, and towards me. My vote did not helpsave the situation, and I'm actually just really upset.
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My feelings are such that the only words I can reach for are the Duke of Bourbon's, Henry V, as his army broke and everything he believed in tumbled around his ears.

"Shame and eternal shame, nothing but shame."

The best production I ever saw of that, the words were fucking wrenching. And they stayed me with ever since.

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Indyref2 now almost certainly will happen given Scotland overwhelming voted Remain. I'm going to start looking into relocating to Edinburgh and claiming Scottish citizenship before the split!


Bring on LondonRef

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Well, Japan's economy has been a disaster area for the last decade.

Because of... not a high enough birth rate and not enough immigration. And it's only going to get worse for them.

Sound familiar?


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Gutted.

Well, like Mark says, it's done now.

Time to pick up the fucking pieces...

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Without a bullet fired. Jo Cox.

Without a bullet fired.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Lonewolves wrote:
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Farage speech was unlistenable

Without a bullet fired. Jo Cox.

Without a bullet fired.


I don't think she was killed because of the referendum.

I think she was killed because someone had felt the state had failed him, and living in isolation and suffering for decades whilst the world around changed. It changed without him and he saw the immigrant population succeed; buying properties and cars whilst he walked the miles to the library each day, jobless. He saw the state helping them more than he, and felt isolated because the state didn't care about people like him. So he acted against the state that had betrayed him.

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MaliA wrote:
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Farage speech was unlistenable

Without a bullet fired. Jo Cox.

Without a bullet fired.


I don't think she was killed because of the referendum.

I think she was killed because someone had felt the state had failed him, and living in isolation and suffering for decades whilst the world around changed. It changed without him and he saw the immigrant population succeed; buying properties and cars whilst he walked the miles to the library each day, jobless. He saw the state helping them more than he, and felt isolated because the state didn't care about people like him. So he acted against the state that had betrayed him.

No, he killed her because she was sympathetic to Muslims who were being attacked in her consituency, and he was a neo-Nazi. And all the anti-immigration sentiment that was stoked during the Leave campaign pushed him over the edge.

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I'm off to a BBQ tonight with my Third Floor Gallery buddies, most of whom are Europeans living over here. I know we planned it so it might be more in order of a wake, if the worst comes to the worst, but I'm almost too embarrassed to show my face.

I'll go, naturally. But... gngh.

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Good to know we've got Cracker amongst us.

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Also, that's the UK farming industry totally fucked too. What happens to the CAP? I highly doubt the UK government is going to pick up the subsidy bill in full.


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