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Grim... wrote:

Did you talk to one of those firms that advertises on the TV?

Did I fuck. Why let them take a chunk for what takes 30mins.
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48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. :metul:

Zardoz wrote:

48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. :metul:

You bastid. I have a mortgage of £82K for a one bedroomed flat, and it's currently only worth £75K at best.

GazChap wrote:

Zardoz wrote:

48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. :metul:

You bastid. I have a mortgage of £82K for a one bedroomed flat, and it's currently only worth £75K at best.

Proactive employers taking reasonable approaches on a case by case basis differs somewhat from a clear legislative statement though. A significant concern is that if this takes hold 'culturally', then firms will revisit their sickness policies down to the bare statutory minimum to prevent pisstaking.

Grim... wrote:

Eh?

APoD was talking about people doubling their entitlement by taking holiday days and then claiming them as sick days instead. That strongly suggests that they're claiming they were sick when they weren't - and in that case you'd be getting a free day off whether you pulled a sickie on a working day or claimed back a holiday.

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Fucks Sake

Thankfully, I don't foresee this happening in my team, but I can probably list off several people who will now consider their annual leave entitlement doubled.

I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time.

Craster wrote:

However, because the article writer is a fucking moron, they've added a mockup picture with the union flag replacing the EU symbol, which isn't what's being suggested at all.

Or he's very clever, and has successfully got people riled because of his deliberate misrepresentation of the facts!

Thing is, people don't want the Union Jack. When you see someone who's paid to have the extra flag on their licence plates, what have they got? The English, Scottish or Welsh flag. Hardly ever see the Union Jack.

MaliA wrote:

I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time.

Indeed; you're right. It's been that way, like, since forever.

Captain Caveman wrote:

MaliA wrote:

I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time.

Indeed; you're right. It's been that way, like, since forever.

I had a long weekend booked in Ireland during the two months I was off sick last year with the PE. My employer automatically gave me the annual leave back, which I wasn't expecting (and was very pleased about). Maybe this hasn't been law, before, but merely a common practice?

I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back.

It's very nice of people to invite me to house warming parties in Essex, but it's a fucking long way for me to go. Also, if I had £7,250 to spend on a car, it wouldn't be a second hand Vauxhall Agila. I sponsored someone £5 to do the Yorkshire 3 peaks as it is going to lamp it down tomorrow. I'll throw in another tenner if they do it in under 11 hours.

Curiosity wrote:

Same.

MaliA wrote:

This post was brought to you by ADHD.

Awww crap, I forgot the ball i'm going to next weekend is a bloody masquerade one. I need a mask people, find me a cool one.

Trooper wrote:

Awww crap, I forgot the ball i'm going to next weekend is a bloody masquerade one. I need a mask people, find me a cool one.

There ya go for starters

Exam done. Birthday present bought. Now on the train sat opposite a nutter, who is talking and laughing to himself.

if you don't mind being surrounded by Goths and Nerds for a couple of hours of an evening.

Awww crap, I forgot the ball i'm going to next weekend is a bloody masquerade one.

Author:	Malc [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:00 ]
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Since I've been working here (2005) we've been encouraged to claim back any holidays that are also sick days. I don't think many people do mind. Malc

Author:	BikNorton [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:06 ]
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I thought 'claim back holidays you would've stayed off work' had been normal for years and years. I should be able to claim back two of three weeks of this holiday I won't though.

Author:	Trooper [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:09 ]
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Weird, i've never heard of this before, or ever thought to claim any holiday back as sick. Is it just me who thinks that doesn't feel morally right somehow?

Author:	BikNorton [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:10 ]
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Any day I was too ill to drink, I'd feel okay about. Yesterday came close, but I powered through.

Author:	Warhead [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:10 ]
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Zardoz wrote: ...... Grim... wrote: Did you talk to one of those firms that advertises on the TV? Did I fuck. Why let them take a chunk for what takes 30mins. ...... All those companies do is ask you for the information to fill in the same form that you can fill in yourself, and then take a percentage of whatever you get back. Similarly, if ever you have to make a claim to the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority because you've been a victim of crime, you can do all the paperwork yourself - again, it's only a form to fill in. You don't need a solicitor or claims management company to do that for you and then take 25% of any compensation. The only reason to use one of these places is if you are incapable of filling in the form and can't get a friend or family member to do it with you.

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Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:15 ]
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Proactive employers taking reasonable approaches on a case by case basis differs somewhat from a clear legislative statement though. A significant concern is that if this takes hold 'culturally', then firms will revisit their sickness policies down to the bare statutory minimum to prevent pisstaking.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:18 ]
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Zardoz wrote: 48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. You bastid. I have a mortgage of £82K for a one bedroomed flat, and it's currently only worth £75K at best.

Author:	Trooper [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:23 ]
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GazChap wrote: Zardoz wrote: 48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. You bastid. I have a mortgage of £82K for a one bedroomed flat, and it's currently only worth £75K at best. <looks at the above two mortgages> <cries into his bank account>

Author:	MaliA [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:24 ]
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Somewhat alarmingly, my instructions from the last meeting were "hit X with a stick to get them to do it" and "If it isn't done, kidnap Y's puppy".

Author:	Zardoz [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:28 ]
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Trooper wrote: GazChap wrote: Zardoz wrote: 48k for a 3 bed semi detached house, with a 12k remortgage to convert the loft and other jobs. You bastid. I have a mortgage of £82K for a one bedroomed flat, and it's currently only worth £75K at best. <looks at the above two mortgages> <cries into his bank account> You'll feel better once you've spunked some more on a rapidly depreciating sports car with ludicrous running costs.

Author:	Warhead [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:32 ]
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I'm so pleased that The Big Noise in Raploch has been a success. More elsewhere now, please.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:33 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Proactive employers taking reasonable approaches on a case by case basis differs somewhat from a clear legislative statement though. A significant concern is that if this takes hold 'culturally', then firms will revisit their sickness policies down to the bare statutory minimum to prevent pisstaking. Is it really any different from pulling a sickie though?

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 14:43 ]
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Eh?

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:05 ]
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WTF?

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:36 ]
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I've woken up this morning with what feels like a 10 pint hangover. Which is strange. I think I'm just overtired, or something. EDIT: And I didn't put a belt on today. And come out with no cash on me. Apart from 60p which i've already used to buy a tin of coke. Still, at least it is payday. All I've to do is pick up MrsA's train tickets so she can fuck off down south for the weekend, whilst I attend a party on Saturday night. EDIT 2: I also seem to have come to work dressed as a shit country and western singer. Cock.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:17 ]
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Grim... wrote: Eh? APoD was talking about people doubling their entitlement by taking holiday days and then claiming them as sick days instead. That strongly suggests that they're claiming they were sick when they weren't - and in that case you'd be getting a free day off whether you pulled a sickie on a working day or claimed back a holiday.

Author:	MaliA [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:19 ]
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Craster wrote: Grim... wrote: Eh? APoD was talking about people doubling their entitlement by taking holiday days and then claiming them as sick days instead. That strongly suggests that they're claiming they were sick when they weren't - and in that case you'd be getting a free day off whether you pulled a sickie on a working day or claimed back a holiday. IIRC, one needs a doctor's note.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 15:20 ]
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Unless it's different from the normal process for having a sick day, you can self-certify if it's 5 days or under.

Author:	GovernmentYard [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 17:39 ]
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Hello. Twitter is down. Here I am, then.

Author:	Cavey [ Thu Jun 21, 2012 17:55 ]
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MaliA wrote: ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Fucks Sake Thankfully, I don't foresee this happening in my team, but I can probably list off several people who will now consider their annual leave entitlement doubled. I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time. Indeed; you're right. It's been that way, like, since forever.

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:51 ]
Post subject:	Re: Bits and Bobs 35
metalangel wrote: Craster wrote: However, because the article writer is a fucking moron, they've added a mockup picture with the union flag replacing the EU symbol, which isn't what's being suggested at all. Or he's very clever, and has successfully got people riled because of his deliberate misrepresentation of the facts! Thing is, people don't want the Union Jack. When you see someone who's paid to have the extra flag on their licence plates, what have they got? The English, Scottish or Welsh flag. Hardly ever see the Union Jack. It is only the Union Jack when on a ship, rest of the time it is a Union Flag... sorry as you were! I would like it on my passport/driving licence.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:32 ]
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Captain Caveman wrote: MaliA wrote: I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time. Indeed; you're right. It's been that way, like, since forever. I had a long weekend booked in Ireland during the two months I was off sick last year with the PE. My employer automatically gave me the annual leave back, which I wasn't expecting (and was very pleased about). Maybe this hasn't been law, before, but merely a common practice?

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:03 ]
Post subject:	Bits and Bobs 35
My place is the same. Always get holiday back.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:16 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Captain Caveman wrote: MaliA wrote: I'm fairly sure that if you're sick whilst on holiday it doesn't count as holiday and has done for some time. Indeed; you're right. It's been that way, like, since forever. I had a long weekend booked in Ireland during the two months I was off sick last year with the PE. My employer automatically gave me the annual leave back, which I wasn't expecting (and was very pleased about). Maybe this hasn't been law, before, but merely a common practice? ECJ ruled on this in 2009, under the Working Time Directive. And even as far back as 2000.

Author:	Curiosity [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:16 ]
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I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back.

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:19 ]
Post subject:	Bits and Bobs 35
I am sat in Birmingham waiting to do a resit.

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:20 ]
Post subject:	Bits and Bobs 35
Curiosity wrote: I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back. hr should tell you.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:24 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back. Same.

Author:	markg [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:25 ]
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Yeah, I'd feel pretty dodgy about claiming back for any period of sickness which began and ended during a period of leave.

Author:	devilman [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:41 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back. I've worked with HR departments a fair bit over the years and the only times I've seen this issue come up has been folk who had been off on long term sick.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:44 ]
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It's very nice of people to invite me to house warming parties in Essex, but it's a fucking long way for me to go. Also, if I had £7,250 to spend on a car, it wouldn't be a second hand Vauxhall Agila. I sponsored someone £5 to do the Yorkshire 3 peaks as it is going to lamp it down tomorrow. I'll throw in another tenner if they do it in under 11 hours.

Author:	Curiosity [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:47 ]
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MaliA wrote: It's very nice of people to invite me to house warming parties in Essex, but it's a fucking long way for me to go. Also, if I had £7,250 to spend on a car, it wouldn't be a second hand Vauxhall Agila. I sponsored someone £5 to do the Yorkshire 3 peaks as it is going to lamp it down tomorrow. I'll throw in another tenner if they do it in under 11 hours. This post was brought to you by ADHD.

Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:56 ]
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Craster wrote: Curiosity wrote: I've never thought to claim back holiday if I've been ill. In some circumstances it would seem right, but not in others. So if it stopped me going away or similar then fine, but if I was away for a week and was horribly ill on one day midweek then I wouldn't claim it back. Same. You know I said that I thought people could take the piss? We've just had our first claim to reinstatement of leave. From a partner. Partners are not employees, and hence have no statutory entitlement to reinstate.

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:02 ]
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Curiosity wrote: MaliA wrote: It's very nice of people to invite me to house warming parties in Essex, but it's a fucking long way for me to go. Also, if I had £7,250 to spend on a car, it wouldn't be a second hand Vauxhall Agila. I sponsored someone £5 to do the Yorkshire 3 peaks as it is going to lamp it down tomorrow. I'll throw in another tenner if they do it in under 11 hours. This post was brought to you by ADHD. And the numbers 3, 5 and 7.

Author:	Trooper [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:39 ]
Post subject:	Re: Bits and Bobs 35
Awww crap, I forgot the ball i'm going to next weekend is a bloody masquerade one. I need a mask people, find me a cool one.