NervousPete wrote:
MaliA wrote:
TheVision wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Anonymous X wrote:
Just saw V for Vendetta (the film) on BBC 3. It's a bit total crap, isn't it?
I agree.
I disagree.
It's not as good as the book granted, but I enjoyed it.
I thought it thought it was far cleverer than it actually was. Kinda like when six formers write about socialism. Brain candy for an hour or so, nothing more.
There's only one really good thing about the new V film and that's the Detective Finch and his assistant stuff, who are not only acted really well but get a thoughtful chunk of script. The backplot that they uncover is really thoughtful in a Fatherland way, and almost seems from a different and rather better film. Because, unfortunatley, the script and acting for the evil government in this comes across as entirely cloddish and ham-fisted. After coming up with a genius new back-story we get third rate comic book villains who aren't a tenth as interesting and shaded as the ones in the comic. And after trying to lay plausible foundations for the entire story we're asked to believe that the public would continue to blithely support obvious villains sneering and being villainous right up until a sudden turn-around ending. I had been hoping for a more sinister and elegant form of a repressive regime, but no - we get John Hurt shouting and pounding his fists a lot.
I had hoped by scrapping the comic's 'limited nuclear war'angle they'd have a more plausible and sinister ruling party that controlled the media in an elegant way and 'disappeared' people less obviously. Instead the Voice of Fate is reduced to a chundering arse whom even Nick Griffin would tire of hearing five minutes into breakfast. Stephen Fry's character was a worthy addition and well played, but tragically cumulates in the most offensively brain-wrong thing ever when a closet gay man under a violent virulently homophobic government decides it'd be a great idea to lampoon the great leader whom everyone knows is off his trolly. And where was the kill-switch on the sub-Benny-Hill routine in the media office, eh? Where was the cunning 'technical difficulties' move? Quite possibly the most incompetent facist dictatorship ever.
The ending's not bad as such, though annoyingly V has to go up against the hammiest panto villain ever. And I don't mind what they've left out. It's just that its infuriating that such a well produced film has such a childish and thoughtless script. It really turns it into a quite-bad film. And where V comes across as enigmatic, frightening and almost child-like in the comic, he doesn't work quite so well here with the ADR guys failing to ground his voice-over, which sounds completely off-screen.
Agh.
The Valerie bit is good though. But I was so depressed it wasn't until Children of Men came along that I had any confidence in the future of Brit dystopia sci-fi.
(Edited as I accidently deleted some of the post quoting MaliA - curses!)
AND ANOTHER THING!!!!!!!!!!!
Why, for the love of god, why, after making a reasonable fist of it all being 'England' and 'English' did they go and undo all the hard work at the end when the policeman says "Get your hands off that lever" but doesn't pronounce it "lee-ver".
And the ending was also shit "Actually, you're one of the terrorists I've been hunting for a while and I've watched you set this train full of explosives off to have a viking funeral underneath parliament, but i'm happy to stroll up to a roof with you, as there's no fucking way you'll kill me, dear, dear sworn enemy"
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