Having said that, I find myself annoyed by the portrayal of men in the media as either useless, sexually inadequate nerds to be laughed at by women

As a University lecturer once pointed out to me, men may be portrayed in a negative light in the media in order to entice women to buy products etc. but ultimately, men own all the big businesses, so ultimately, we still win.

Men have bigger muscles. We win.

I like boobs. If ladies want to show their boobs, how does this degrate them if it's their conscious choice? Confused.

Men have bigger muscles. We win.

I like boobs. If ladies want to show their boobs, how does this degrate them if it's their conscious choice? Confused.

Because sex is a male construct used to degrade women and exert control over them, or something. In the world of the feminists writing in the Guardian all women should hate sex, it seems, or they're betraying their sisters.

Because sex is a male construct used to degrade women and exert control over them, or something. In the world of the feminists writing in the Guardian all women should hate sex, it seems, or they're betraying their sisters.

Dammit, if I want boobs, I'll just find free porn on the internet.

FHM/Nuts/Zoo seem to me to be more offensive to men than to women, given how they belittle one's intellect and assume a homogenistic football/booze/cars/phwooooar-based monosyllabic grunting view of the world in the reader.

This little beauty made my blood boil, for example.

Honestly, advertising people! If you want to sell aftershave to a bloke, a picture of a naked male model who lives in the gym isn't going to make me want to buy your product. Really and truly it isn't. At all. What it *will* do is make me feel uncomfortable, and that ain't going to make me want to smell like the manboy in your ad.

So she got into writing after the Wonder Years.

Typical feminist, hates men because she's minging.

This amused me, fucking magazines.

Without looking, I should imagine that for every confused Guardian article droning on about social and political correctness

And if women want to show their bits, let them! It's not degrading, that's rubbish

Surely you've grounds for all kinds of sue-able sexual harassment, no? I'd never put up with it if I were a woman, and similarly I'd never allow the gf to put up with it in any circumstance. In fact, at the first hint of anything inappropriate I can see myself going quite mental.

Oh, absolutely - and men that do that are pigs. I just don't think FHM is necessarily to blame.

I know they are not flattering me, what I meant was, I wonder if they think that women find it flattering - do they think that saying 'cor, nice rack' is understood by women to be nothing more than an appreciation of beauty.

I never understand why some, not content with staring in the first place, feel the need to shout to you and point out that you have breasts? Are they doing it because they think you enjoy hearing it, or because they know that each time they shout it at you it embarrasses and sometimes upsets you.

Being molested in public is another thing altogether, as it's illegal and you have the right by law to have them arrested for it, and there is no question that it is 'wrong', and though sexual harassment laws do exists in this country their usefulness seems mostly limited to people acting inappropriately in a professional environment, rather than people just going about their daily lives and being harassed in the street.

We are all animals in the end. Eat, Fuck, Create and Sleep is what we do, so we can't really dim people's instincts.

We may be animals is physiology, but we are thinking, sentient beings that should have a sense of how to behave in public. We are (supposed to be) cultured and civilised, and an understanding of what is right and what is wrong should be able to put the basic needs of 'Eat, Fuck, Create and Sleep' into some form of civilised structure so that we have respect beyond the basic 'must eat to live, must pass on sperm to procreate', etc of the rest of the animal kingdom.

Like tourettes? No - that's a terrible condition - these men just don't give a damn about the people that they offend. I don't think it's anything like the same thing. If the people that did this kind of thing wanted to stop shouting 'get your tits out' then they could, it's not a triggered instinct, just bad manners and disrespect.

[color=#800080]I'm not condoning it at all, but it is in human nature to appraise things with our eyes isn't it? I don't like it when men 'say' stuff, but looking isn't so bad-women eye up men aswell

Looking at a man and thinking 'he's handsome' or appreciating a beautiful girl is one thing. Staring at someone's breasts like the long dead Elvis had just appeared in your cleavage and is singing Jailhouse Rock surrounded by a choir of bespectacled goldfish is quite another.

If you go around leering at the outline of mens penises, which I can't imagine you do, or at least hope you don't, then it's really not the same thing.