I was going to go out drinking with an ExHOC tonight but we've cancelled because of the stupid TERRISTZ so no, I'm not all right
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:19 ] |
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Probably worth having a thread for this. Trust everyone on here who works in the area or knows people who do is ok. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
The wife doesn't work on Wednesdays which is a relief. If only so I don't have to deal with any panic. Canary Wharf is a bit more secure than usual but aside from that nothing doing. School have threatened to cancel the class trip to the portrait gallery on Friday. If they do I'll take the boy out of school and take him myself. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 18:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
I was going to go out drinking with an ExHOC tonight but we've cancelled because of the stupid TERRISTZ so no, I'm not all right
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| Author: | Squirt [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 19:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Grim... wrote: I was going to go out drinking with an ExHOC tonight but we've cancelled because of the stupid TERRISTZ so no, I'm not all right I hate to be flippant, but I'm pretty certain that counts as LETTING THE TERRISTZ WIN. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 21:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
It's practically being a collaborator. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
ITV news really boiled my piss last night. They were desperately trying to make this out as a horrific, large-scale terror threat and not some random, suicidal maniac with a kitchen knife. Don't get me wrong; it's awful, but it's not a coordinated attack on the scale of 7/7. Useless, scaremongering twats! |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
I think it's comments on social media that annoy me most (other than the actual twats doing this of course). On the BBC news facebook page there were people claiming that it was all fake news because there hadn't been any CCTV footage released after only a couple of hours. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Anyone jumping to any conclusion in the immediate aftermath needs a heavy dose of eyebrow raising. Strangely, it's no longer the widespread coordinated attack that some claimed at the time. Almost as if initial reports were rushed and inaccurate. |
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| Author: | asfish [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Kern wrote: I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'. Its quite worrying really, one guy has killed 4 people and injured 40, many of the injured will never recover the quality of life they had before the attack. All done with a car and a kitchen knife, which anyone over 18 can get hold of without alarm bells going off. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
The way I look at it the wherewithal to carry out this sort of attack is available to everyone but it's incredibly rare. Which rather suggests to me that there aren't as many of these suicidal holy fools knocking around over here as a lot of people seem to imagine. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
asfish wrote: Kern wrote: I liked Ben Goldacre's tweets that we should refer to them as 'twat attacks'. Its quite worrying really, one guy has killed 4 people and injured 40, many of the injured will never recover the quality of life they had before the attack. All done with a car and a kitchen knife, which anyone over 18 can get hold of without alarm bells going off. And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
It also shows desperation and a lack of forethought to attack one of the most heavily secured places in the country where the emergency services will have drilled intensely for just such a situation. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Kern wrote: It also shows desperation and a lack of forethought to attack one of the most heavily secured places in the country where the emergency services will have drilled intensely for just such a situation. Or: wanting maximum publicity |
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| Author: | asfish [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Quote: And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere. So what would be used in say 1975? 
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
asfish wrote: Quote: And have been able to get hold of for forty years. It's not exactly a cunning game changer,that we're going to see replicated everywhere. So what would be used in say 1975? Semtex |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
It is a bizarrely low rent terror attack. Small car, kitchen knife, no follow up, no suspect packages or actual bomb, no associate to maximise the chaos. Its like he had the idea that motrning, |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Squirt wrote: It is a bizarrely low rent terror attack. Small car, kitchen knife, no follow up, no suspect packages or actual bomb, no associate to maximise the chaos. Its like he had the idea that motrning, Possibly as he was driving over the bridge. They guy in the airport at the weekend had a shopping bag with his lunch in. Bizarre attacks of opportunity almost |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
ISIS low rent terror special. See Here It's the terrorist version of Uber. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
School trip has been rescheduled for 6 weeks time. So it's good to know we have an end date for DA WAR ON TERRORIZTS |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
30 days after Trump is prez, ISIS will be gone. He said. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: School trip has been rescheduled for 6 weeks time. So it's good to know we have an end date for DA WAR ON TERRORIZTS Around the National Gallery it's the Yodas you have to watch out for. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:07 ] |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
There is a definite correlation between my turning 8 years old, and terrorists getting scared and incidents dropping off a cliff. Clearly, I am something important. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Pardon my ignorance, but what happened in 1972? |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Bloody Sunday happened early 1972 so I guess all the fall-out from that? |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Just loads of The Troubles, I reckon? Bloody Sunday was in 1972, for instance, and I bet that kicked off a lot. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Yes, 1972 was the peak of the Troubles. It's a reassuring sign of how far Northern Ireland's come that the most recent government there collapsed due to a run-of-the-mill incompetency scandal. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Cavey wrote: Bloody Sunday happened early 1972 so I guess all the fall-out from that? Yeah, but that was only 20-odd people, right? Even if you call that a terrorist attack were there really 350 or so more killed in other attacks that year? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
A quick skim of a chronology I've just found hosted by Ulster University suggests so. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Kern wrote: A quick skim of a chronology I've just found hosted by Ulster University suggests so. There's a link at the bottom of that page to a register of those known to have been killed. |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
I wonder if that number includes the people killed by British soldiers? |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Thu Mar 23, 2017 13:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Westminster attack |
Squirt wrote: I wonder if that number includes the people killed by British soldiers? I can't be bothered to do the maths. Chronology does indicate a lot of deaths, though 350+ still seems high, so it might include Troubles-related deaths, and things like the amusingly high number of IRA bombers who blew themselves up by mistake. It is a lot more than I thought though. Does put things in a bit of perspective. |
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