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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:05 

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I'm sure this question has been asked before but what's the best way to view the forum on an iphone/ipod touch? It's a bit fiddly with Safari.

a quick google found this app
http://www.messageforums.net/iphoneforumreader.php


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:06 
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http://www.beex.co.uk/m

There are some app things plugged into the forum - Gaywood will be along shortly.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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http://www.beex.co.uk/m

There are some app things plugged into the forum - Gaywood will be along shortly.


oh yes, thanks that is good :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:11 
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My favourite is this skin:

viewforum.php?f=3&style=16

Although it still jumps back to the top of the page every fucking time.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:13 
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Whenever I try to load that link on my mobile - a Sony Ericsson k800i - the progress bar gets to about 97% on a blank screen and then absolutely refuses to go any further.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:13 
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My favourite is this skin:

viewforum.php?f=3&style=16

Although it still jumps back to the top of the page every fucking time.

Urg, that's nasty on a PC screen.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:13 
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Well duh.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:14 
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Craster wrote:
Although it still jumps back to the top of the page every fucking time.

Yeah, we found why, and it's integral to the way that skin works.

It was written by a fucking muppet, one assumes.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:14 
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Fix it, you fucking layabouts.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:15 
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More seriously, what's bizarre is that it loads the page on exactly the right post. Then a couple of seconds later leaps back up to the top.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:15 
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Fix it, you fucking layabouts.


Still fitting in quite well!


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Craster wrote:
Fix it, you fucking layabouts.

Did you miss the word "integral"?

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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No. I want you to rewrite it from the ground up. By the end of the week, ta.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:22 
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Craster wrote:
Fix it, you fucking layabouts.

Did you miss the word "integral"?


Fix it, you fucking integral layabouts?

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Craster wrote:
No. I want you to rewrite it from the ground up. By the end of the week, ta.

Image

You'd think searching for "bush finger" would bring back some interesting photos, wouldn't you? But no, none at all :(

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:29 
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Craster wrote:
More seriously, what's bizarre is that it loads the page on exactly the right post. Then a couple of seconds later leaps back up to the top.
You can hit Back at that point, most of the time. It's because the theme brings in a standard library iui.js file which is messing with the URL at pageload time. We did try to fix it but without success.

Neither of the app options we've looked at were as good as the mobile theme.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:32 
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Style 16 is better than the mobile theme, even with that page jump - the CSS resizing on the mobile theme is horrific.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:33 
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Uhh, that's what I meant. The other mobile theme has been banished from my memory and bookmarks.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:34 
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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Uhh, that's what I meant. The other mobile theme has been banished from my memory and bookmarks.

I still don't get what's wrong with it.
Especially as we wrote it so it worked perfectly on your phone.

Also - what's "CSS resizing"?

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:37 
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It loads the page, completely. Then it spends about ten seconds resizing all the elements on the screen. Then it decides that the link you clicked on when it first loads has moved somewhere else, so it loads something entirely different.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:46 
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Craster wrote:
It loads the page, completely. Then it spends about ten seconds resizing all the elements on the screen. Then it decides that the link you clicked on when it first loads has moved somewhere else, so it loads something entirely different.

Your phone sucks.
Does it really do that? You'll have to show me at the weekend.

[edit]Is it only on a certain page? I could test it on the iPad.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 14:49 

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gospvg wrote:
what's the best way to view the forum on an iphone/ipod touch?


http://www.pcworld.com/article/196595/h ... phone.html


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 15:00 
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Grim... wrote:
Craster wrote:
It loads the page, completely. Then it spends about ten seconds resizing all the elements on the screen. Then it decides that the link you clicked on when it first loads has moved somewhere else, so it loads something entirely different.

Your phone sucks.
Does it really do that? You'll have to show me at the weekend.

[edit]Is it only on a certain page? I could test it on the iPad.


It's the main forum view. It's only really an issue because there's so many links so close together.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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If the OP had been a new poster I would have put money on it being spam. Heheh.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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If the OP had been a new poster I would have put money on it being spam. Heheh.


It is spam 99% of what comes out of my mouth (or in this case I type) is crap :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:49 
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Has someone been fiddling with the original mobile site, or have my eyes aged another notch lately? The font size in threads seems a fair bit smaller, and there aren't any really long links breaking it.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:00 
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Nobody else seeing the same, then?

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:03 
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Yeah, I get that. Don't use the mobile site, so wouldn't normally see it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:03 
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Nobody else seeing the same, then?

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It looks like that in "column view" on the blackberry touch, but I have to manually make it look like that on every page.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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I've not touched it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Malibu... have you updated the software on your phone? Maybe they changed something in the rendering?

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Looks like the write-a-post screen is buggered on the iPhone site under iOS4.2. Grrr. However, the developer of TouchBB is promising jump-to-unread in the next version, which might make it the best choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:54 
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Only ever-so-slightly buggered. For me, the 'Subject' text is misaligned and the 'submit' bar has switched to a button. That's it, still works fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Looks like the write-a-post screen is buggered on the iPhone site under iOS4.2. Grrr. However, the developer of TouchBB is promising jump-to-unread in the next version, which might make it the best choice.


Or style=5 :)

Tapatalk is still my favorite but I'm sure the plugin (or whatever) needs updating now because it's unable to quote and a bunch of stuff like attaching pictures has never worked. Pretty please?


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:19 
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You know, I actually sat down and started to look into a complete overhaul of the mobile site the other day, until I looked at the gigantic mess the underlying HTML is.

The font sizes are still totally fucked on my iPhone, but I can't seem to reliably track down the problem in the CSS. I went as far as making a complete copy of some forum pages and had a good fiddle around, and still couldn't fix it.

Humbug.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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I think tapatalk and touchbb have the right idea, by effectively grafting a web service into phpbb then starting with a clean rendering system running locally on the handset.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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I'm not sure I agree. The whole point of CSS is that it lets you take the content and rearrange it pretty much as you wish. It shouldn't be difficult to transpose the forum to a 6"x3" screen without fucking things up.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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You are assuming PHPBB has clean, easy to work with HTML. Sadly it's rather more like your Visual Basic code.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Craster wrote:
I'm not sure I agree. The whole point of CSS is that it lets you take the content and rearrange it pretty much as you wish. It shouldn't be difficult to transpose the forum to a 6"x3" screen without fucking things up.


Only if the underlying code is any good. This site is just hundreds of tables, nested within one-another, and tables are not a fun thing to be touching with CSS.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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I said it first, and with more zing.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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The big advantage of tapatalk, as I see it, is that you're typing into a form in an application - the entire device is optimised to do that, and it works as well as possible.

Typing into a text box on an HTML page is always going to be less than ideal. On the iPhone at least, it's slow, spellcheck doesn't work, and you can't scroll the text box to see what you wrote.

Plus there's a massive data overhead sending the entire rendered page over HTML every time compared to just the text.


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I said it first, and with more zing.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I said it first, and with more zing.


You did indeed. What puzzles me is why the likes of Tapatalk and TouchBB are so....shite, given that they have direct access to the data.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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TouchBB is shite. Tapatalk isn't. But please can we update the plugin!


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Not it if involves fucking about updating half of the forum again.
I will take a look at some point.

Also, your phones are shit at the Internet.

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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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I have non of these problems of which you all speak. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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kalmar wrote:
and you can't scroll the text box to see what you wrote.

I agree with everything you've said, so this is more of a "didyouknow?" kinda thing - if you hold down two fingers on the screen inside the text box you should be able to scroll it.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
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Ah, I didn't know! Thanks for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Mobile View
PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:55 
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Or, if you hold inside the box until the little magnifying ball pops up, then move slightly down, it scrolls down through the text.

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