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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Apr 17, 2019 14:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Pro's''s |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Apr 17, 2019 14:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
LewieP wrote: Vita means life. Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Apr 17, 2019 22:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
When the first amazing PS5 VR game comes out I'll fold like a wet paper towel. |
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| Author: | romanista [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 21:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Mr Chonks wrote: LewieP wrote: Vita means life. Sadly it was rather inaccurate given how quickly support for it died. Why does everything sound like cold play? |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 21:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Is this the time where Product 'Yr becomes useful? Also, referring back all the way to the start where SSD storage reduced Spidey's 15s epic to a premature 0.8s, how many other games were installed and had been started? What I mean is, is it an SSHD or a genuinely decent SSD? And if it's an SSD, is this a preview, a review, or a whatever a review is called now we call preview models review models? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 22:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
It’s a genuine SSD, Sony were clear about that. It’s neither a preview or a review HTH HAND |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 22:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Gosh. Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode. |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 22:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
BikNorton wrote: Gosh. Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out, games are going to be even more absolutely massive by then. Hopefully they'll let it at least operate in a 'gigantic cache of usb3 disk' mode. A lot of the reason games are big these days is that many assets are uncompressed to speed up loads. With an SSD they might be able to do some smart compression stuff to get filesizes down a lot. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Thu Apr 18, 2019 22:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
It's exactly the opposite of that isn't it,? Processing power outstripped disk speed so much that ever more tricksy compression was needed to reduce load times, as well as optimised layout on particularly slow media like cd/dvd/bd. It's why required-install became a thing too. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 0:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
BikNorton wrote: Even if a 1TB SSD is cost effective by the time it comes out You can get 1 TB of SSD for £85 retail, right now, on Amazon. Albeit moderately crappy SATA stuff, but still. It’s not, to my mind, obviously nonsense that that could fit within the bill of materials for a premium console being released for Christmas 2020 and who’s hardware would likely be sold at about break even for the first part of its life. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 0:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
1TB isn't big enough. It's not unreasonable to think that equals ten games. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
I agree, there's a reason both of my PS4s have 2TB. That might be where it starts, though -- for cost reasons. And also future upsell reasons. Then a PS5 Pro can have a nice storage boost as well as other upgrades. I wonder if it'll be a standard port like M.2 or soldered. My cynical money is on soldered. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
As they presumably have physical space an m2 would make sense wouldn't it? Massive supplier volumes of commodity pieces allow better pricing than playing 'just me Sony over here' games on the flash markets and buying a decade's worth of chips in one go, cheaper to dump a standard port already supported by the chipset and in the libraries onto the ps5 PCB than custom track it all, and it gives them freedom to chop and change supplier at a purely purchasing level on a day to day basis if they want instead of worrying about respins (given a set of performance specs for suppliers to comply with). |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Oh, and that £85 is presumably £40 to Sony which is about £35 more than a 1tb traditional disk. Maybe it'll only be a £20 premium next year? It's still huge on the BOM. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
I dunno what to tell you, the article is unequivocal that it'll ship with an all-SSD drive. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
BikNorton wrote: Maybe Sony have seen the successes with graphics cards and phones being over a grand now. I sincerely doubt it'll be more than £500. They don't want another PS3 on their hands. |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Fri Apr 19, 2019 13:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
My guess is that we're going to see something like a very powerful balanced £450 machine from Sony, and something like a £350 low end and £550 high end from Microsoft (with the main difference being a GPU aiming at 1080p on the low end, and 4k at the high end). |
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| Author: | romanista [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 18:00 ] |
| Post subject: | PS5 confirmed |
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019 ... stmas-2020 |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 18:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Quote: Sony confirms PS5 is indeed called PS5 - Quote: Sony has confirmed a few details about the PlayStation 5 - including the fact it's called PlayStation 5. So it’s not called PS5 at all. It’s called PlayStation 5, which is commonly abbreviated to PS5. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 18:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Yeah, but I’ll still buy it. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 18:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 18:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
DavPaz wrote: See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity. (imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K. Everyone Else: *facepalm* |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 19:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
I reckon the next Xbox will be called Xbox. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 19:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 19:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Thread merge mods!? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 19:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Maybe that worked? |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 20:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sony PlayStation 5 (PS5) |
Mr Chonks wrote: Full backwards compatibility with PS4 will probably mean a day one purchase for me for the first time ever. Few months later Mr Chonks wrote: I can’t see myself getting one this time around, for all sorts of reasons.
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 21:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Pundabaya wrote: DavPaz wrote: See, Microsoft? That's how you maintain a consistent brand identity. (imaginary)Microsoft: Yeah, well, wait till you see our new console, The Xbox One 2: 4K. Everyone Else: *facepalm* “Testing, one two. Testing, Xbox one two.” |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Oct 08, 2019 21:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Yep, really gone off the idea. For all sorts of reasons, as I mentioned before. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
So their GDC talk was streamed earlier today - lots and lots of tech stats and stuff but no games https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
zaphod79 wrote: GDC talk ... no games Feature, not bug.
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| Author: | Joans [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
It was strangely interesting. I think this might be a side-effect of working from home. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
zaphod79 wrote: So their GDC talk was streamed earlier today - lots and lots of tech stats and stuff but no games https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/ps5-reveal-live-blog So pretty much the same as the PS4 reveal. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
It's a talk for devs, not players. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 18:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
What’s it look like though? |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 20:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Satsuma wrote: What’s it look like though? it looks like a scary clown, with a red balloon.. not sure why that is relevant to a Ps5 discussion.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(character) |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 20:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 20:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
XD |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Mar 18, 2020 20:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
KovacsC wrote: Satsuma wrote: What’s it look like though? it looks like a scary clown, with a red balloon.. not sure why that is relevant to a Ps5 discussion.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_(character) Shit, even I’ve got to give you a lulz! 
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 21:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Still no look at the machine but here’s the controller which must means we’re getting a 70’s looking white/black combo thang. https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/ |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 21:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Looks like Portal prop |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 21:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet? |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Tue Apr 07, 2020 22:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Dr Zoidberg wrote: Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet? Trooper's PS5 emporium is open for business, send me over £500 and i'll get you one put aside. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Trooper wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: Looking good. Anywhere reliable doing reservations yet? Trooper's PS5 emporium is open for business, send me over £500 and i'll get you one put aside. I will take 2, good Sir |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Satsuma wrote: Still no look at the machine but here’s the controller which must means we’re getting a 70’s looking white/black combo thang. https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/04 ... station-5/ I'm not a fan of the look; the mixing of black and white means it comes across like a prototype cobbled together from whatever parts they had lying around. As long as they release some colour variants that don't have such a stark contrast then whatevs. The actual design is fine though as it's pretty much the same as the current pad which is perfectly good. |
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| Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
It looks like a Stormtrooper. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
I like it. Has an Astro Bot look. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Quote: Internal storage: Custom 825GB SSD That's a bit on the low side. My Xbox One X has 1TB, and I have to keep clearing space on it. Next-gen games are unlikely to be smaller. But I guess price is a big factor. |
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| Author: | Joans [ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PS5 confirmed |
Nik wrote: Quote: Internal storage: Custom 825GB SSD That's a bit on the low side. My Xbox One X has 1TB, and I have to keep clearing space on it. Next-gen games are unlikely to be smaller. But I guess price is a big factor. They covered this on the tech talk that I forget the name of, and decided this was the sweet spot. I think one of the factors is that patches are so huge at the moment because they need to replace huge chunks of data to keep up the data access rates. SSD eliminates that, so patches can be a lot smaller. Well, SSD doesn't eliminate access times, but you know what I mean. |
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