Fuel hoarding at home
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In light of the apparent several YEARS of stupid prices that loom ahead for fuel (and of course, the fact it might never go back down at all) I'm thinking I'd like to store some at home that I bought when the price was low, use it to fill the car/bike and then refill the container the next time there's a bit of a dip in price.

Does anyone know:
-if there is any limit on the total amount you can store at home in approved containers?
-what is the maximum size of each individual container that can be legalled kept for domestic purposes?
-what's a good preservative to stop the fuel going all gummy?

Ta!
Store fuel in SORN'd MOT failed cars...
If you piss me off I'm coming round to your house with a lit match.
MetalAngel wrote:
In light of the apparent several YEARS of stupid prices that loom ahead for fuel (and of course, the fact it might never go back down at all) I'm thinking I'd like to store some at home that I bought when the price was low, use it to fill the car/bike and then refill the container the next time there's a bit of a dip in price.

Does anyone know:
-if there is any limit on the total amount you can store at home in approved containers?

Yes. 20 litres.
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-what is the maximum size of each individual container that can be legalled kept for domestic purposes?

10 Litres (a large jerry can)

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-what's a good preservative to stop the fuel going all gummy?

Not storing it. Seriously, storing a lot of petrol is not a good idea.

If you want to avoid paying a high price for petrol, use less or or use something else. Sorry :)
Get a better paid job to pay for fuel.
Is that 20 litres of all types of fuel, or 20 of petrol AND 20 of diesel?
I wouldn't do it either. There's a good chance your house would end up exploded.
MetalAngel wrote:
Is that 20 litres of all types of fuel, or 20 of petrol AND 20 of diesel?


20 litres of petrol. I don't think there's a limit on diesel (it's the same as heating oil and people routinely have 1000 litre plastic containers of that in their gardens).
Still, your neighbours might complain if they see your garage is full of cans of fuel and the council or environment agency might have something to say about it because there probably are rules about how you store it.
MetalAngel wrote:
In light of the apparent several YEARS of stupid prices that loom ahead for fuel (and of course, the fact it might never go back down at all) I'm thinking I'd like to store some at home that I bought when the price was low, use it to fill the car/bike and then refill the container the next time there's a bit of a dip in price.


Little point. You'd save little unless you bought in bulk.

Listening to a oil person on Radio 5 on Friday night, he pointed out that part of the problem is speculators investing in oil due to the weak dollar rather than supply problems. OPEC don't want to increase capacity but would rather let the market sort itself out.

Yes we may see rises but on past form there may well be a price dip at some stage just like the 1970's.

Hoarding fuel is just daft and you risk burning your house down. 5 litres for the mower is fine, but you'd need hundreds of litres to make it worthwhile for a car
In the most recent fuel crisis someone around here got caught trying to fill a wheelie-bin with petrol in the back of their van.
Darwinism at work.
You could always get you bike converted to steam power and safely store tons of coal at home.
During the fuel blockades back in 2000, there was a guy locally who stored a load of petrol in a plastic bin. It leaked, soaked into the floor of his garage and required massive amounts of specialised clean up / digging effort to get right. I think they had to demolish his garage and cart all the stuff away, as it was permanently rendered unsafe.
Convert it to electricity. The stuff comes out of the wall largely for free.
Squirt wrote:
During the fuel blockades back in 2000, there was a guy locally who stored a load of petrol in a plastic bin. It leaked, soaked into the floor of his garage and required massive amounts of specialised clean up / digging effort to get right. I think they had to demolish his garage and cart all the stuff away, as it was permanently rendered unsafe.


A friend of mine came round to work on his bike, took the tank off, and placed it on my lawn so it wouldn't get scratched.

When he went to put it back on, it was suspiciously light, and the lawn was suspiciously wet and smelly.

A 3ft diameter circle of grass died over the next couple of days, and has only just started having weeds grow there after nearly a year.
I was going to buy proper fuel containers for this stuff, and store it in my garage which is detached from the house.

But yes, clearly I'm some sort of fucking idiot. :'(
You krazy foreign!!1
Can anyone else remember that bloke who filled 2 wheelie bins up with petrol during the last fuel stockade thing?
MetalAngel wrote:
I was going to buy proper fuel containers for this stuff, and store it in my garage which is detached from the house.

But yes, clearly I'm some sort of fucking idiot. :'(

I think by the time you'd bought the containers you'd need to see some pretty big price rises for it to be worthwhile. I suggest you buy loads of milk instead, that keeps going up in price, you could sell it on to fund your petrol habit.
nynfortoo wrote:
Squirt wrote:
A 3ft diameter circle of grass died over the next couple of days, and has only just started having weeds grow there after nearly a year.

Fucking hell, I'm using petrol instead of weed killer then. The stuff I got from B&Q is shit. I sprayed it on over a week ago and the fucking weeds are still standing, laughing in my face.
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Comical's Garden, yesterday.
nynfortoo wrote:
Squirt wrote:
During the fuel blockades back in 2000, there was a guy locally who stored a load of petrol in a plastic bin. It leaked, soaked into the floor of his garage and required massive amounts of specialised clean up / digging effort to get right. I think they had to demolish his garage and cart all the stuff away, as it was permanently rendered unsafe.


A friend of mine came round to work on his bike, took the tank off, and placed it on my lawn so it wouldn't get scratched.

When he went to put it back on, it was suspiciously light, and the lawn was suspiciously wet and smelly.

A 3ft diameter circle of grass died over the next couple of days, and has only just started having weeds grow there after nearly a year.


You mean you didn't toss a lighted match on the lawn?

Very, very disappointed. -100 Man Points for not MAKING FIRE.
If you become a farmer, you can store a whole fuckload of fuel (as long as you have the right kind of tank). Special duty-reduced diesel, too.
Can you claim the same discounts on fuel if you're an uphill gardner?
Is that a gay euphimism?
Grim... wrote:
If you become a farmer, you can store a whole fuckload of fuel (as long as you have the right kind of tank). Special duty-reduced diesel, too.


But you aren't allowed to use "red" diesel on the roads unless it's in your tractor for travelling between your fields. In country areas they are stepping up random testing to catch people out and there are big fines.
Mr Chris wrote:
You mean you didn't toss a lighted match on the lawn?

Very, very disappointed. -100 Man Points for not MAKING FIRE.


Hah, yes. Well, I did think of doing it, but didn't think it would be a good idea to ignite 17 litres of petrol a yard away from my house.

Point taken, though. I'm a big girl.
*Does Tim Allen Tool Time grunting noises*
Mr Chris wrote:
*Does Tim Allen Tool Time grunting noises*


Wanking?
chinnyhill10 wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If you become a farmer, you can store a whole fuckload of fuel (as long as you have the right kind of tank). Special duty-reduced diesel, too.


But you aren't allowed to use "red" diesel on the roads unless it's in your tractor agricultural vehicle for travelling between your fields on farm business. In country areas they are stepping up random testing to catch people out and there are big fines.

FTFY.
Is red diesel as nice as red guinness?
Probably - red Guinness is nasty.
Red Guinness?

*google* Never seen it for sale around here, "a smoother, sweeter Guinness". I'd like to try it, can't imagine how they'd make it smoother though.
Zardoz wrote:
Red Guinness?

*google* Never seen it for sale around here, "a smoother, sweeter Guinness". I'd like to try it, can't imagine how they'd make it smoother though.



With a rolling pin and some sand paper...

Malc
It's just basically a Guinness smooth bitter. Like John Smiths.
Not as good as Beamish Red, mind.
I can't stand any smooth bitters, being a real ale fan.
myoptika wrote:
I can't stand any smooth bitters, being a real ale fan.



Oh, hi there.

Mind you, Staropramen is awesomesauce.
ComicalGnomes wrote:
If you piss me off I'm coming round to your house with a lit match.


Bonus mental imagery points for you on a train desperately cupping your lit match against the wind and wincing as it burns your thumb.
myoptika wrote:
I can't stand any smooth bitters, being a real ale fan.


I wasn't aware they were mutually exclusive. Will CAMRA revoke my membership because I have drunk Beamish Red? Shhh! don't tell them.
Mr Chris wrote:
myoptika wrote:
I can't stand any smooth bitters, being a real ale fan.


I wasn't aware they were mutually exclusive. Will CAMRA revoke my membership because I have drunk Beamish Red? Shhh! don't tell them.


Of course they're not, it's just that they taste rank. I quite like eastern european lagers - will that revoke my membership?
myoptika wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
myoptika wrote:
I can't stand any smooth bitters, being a real ale fan.


I wasn't aware they were mutually exclusive. Will CAMRA revoke my membership because I have drunk Beamish Red? Shhh! don't tell them.


Of course they're not, it's just that they taste rank.


Phew!

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I quite like eastern european lagers - will that revoke my membership?


Eastern European is fine - it's if you become a fan of North Europe wifebeater-style lagers you're in difficulty.
What about strong Belgian trappist beers?
sinister agent wrote:
Bonus mental imagery points for you on a train desperately cupping your lit match against the wind and wincing as it burns your thumb.


Wind?! What sort of train is he travelling on?

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One of those open-doored cargo trains that everyone "hitch-hikes" on in the USA.
Ah, yes, boxcars. You want to watch for 'railroad dicks' when doing that. I have to presume it doesn't just mean the detectives employed to stop you doing that, but also being raped by a hobo.
Grim... wrote:
One of those open-doored cargo trains that everyone "hitch-hikes" on in the USA.

OMG!!!! Hitch-hike??? LOL!!!

You ride the box car. Hitch-hikin' is for suckers. Ain't no-one gonna tell you what to do, when you ridin' freight, you're your own man.
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I quite like eastern european lagers - will that revoke my membership?


Eastern European is fine - it's if you become a fan of North Europe wifebeater-style lagers you're in difficulty.


Does anyone like Fosters, or is this just a rumour passed round by advertising men?
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