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I'm with Kern - I never liked it.

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Or skip the toasting.

Oh my god, its amazing. It’s amazing +1 with butter. What’s WRONG with you?!??


Perhaps I've been eating it wrong all these years?

Can't get enough stollen, mind.

Someone sent me a whole himecooked stollen loaf last year with 1” cubes of marzipan throughout it.

It was just the most amazing thing ever.

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I stand on the island of the unknown, as I don't think I've ever tried stollen or panettone, although something with marzipan cubes in it does sound rather good.

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I stand on the island of the unknown, as I don't think I've ever tried stollen or panettone, although something with marzipan cubes in it does sound rather good.


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Love Stollen, panettone is too "dry" for me, needs more fruit.

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Love Stollen, panettone is too "dry" for me, needs more fruit.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Panettone is a bit shit. It's like someone took a fruitcake and made it breed with some shitty stale bread.

Or had some teacakes and thought "what if this, but terrible?"

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My rigorous vetting process to see if I like cake:

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I mean, is panetonne cake?

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Every Christmas I end up with a box of Panettone, either through secret santas or the generosity of well-intentioned neighbours. Every Christmas I nibble away at it like a mouse because I don't want to waste food and appreciate others' kindness but would far rather be gnawing on some cardboard.


The heck?

Toast it, put (salted) butter on it. It’s amazing.


It makes excellent bread and butter pudding.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Panettone is a bit shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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My rigorous vetting process to see if I like cake:

Step 1: Is it cake?

I like it.

I used to think like this, but then I came across the most unholy courgette cake. Nobody liked that. I believe it went in the bin. (after about 15 people had tried it, none managing to finish even a single slice)


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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My rigorous vetting process to see if I like cake:

Step 1: Is it cake?

I like it.

I used to think like this, but then I came across the most unholy courgette cake. Nobody liked that. I believe it went in the bin. (after about 15 people had tried it, none managing to finish even a single slice)


I've enjoyed a nice courgette cake before. Though it's very important that it's not JUST a courgette cake. There needs to be some fun flavouring in there, as the courgette is just bringing the moistness.

If it was simply a courgette-flavoured cake, then that can get in the fucking bin, along with the marrow tart.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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My parents always sliced, then boiled, courgettes when we had them for dinner. I thought this was normal.

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Courgettes are shit

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Cras wrote:
Courgettes are shit


Witness the Findus Theory of Culinary Relativity: what's the opportunity cost?

For example:

- Sweet potato: shit. I'd rather have a potato.
- Celeriac: shit. I'd rather have cauliflower.
- Courgettes: shit. I'd rather have broccoli.

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Beef lasagne: shit. You’d rather have horse.

Yeah, we all know the extent of your culinary ideals, Findus.

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Beef lasagne: shit. You’d rather have horse.

Yeah, we all know the extent of your culinary ideals, Findus.


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But what fine wine do you enjoy with your orange envelope of vomit?

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That's amazing. Not least because the wine expert is called Joe Wadsack.


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- Sweet potato: shit. I'd rather have a potato.

Sweet potato wedges are better than normal potato wedges.

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I stand on the island of the unknown, as I don't think I've ever tried stollen or panettone, although something with marzipan cubes in it does sound rather good.


For cake scientific reasons, I bought some stollen at lunch, as there's a cake stall on the market on a Monday and it was rather nice (the stollen, that is)

And after I've submitted this post, I'm going to have some more. :)

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Grim... wrote:
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- Sweet potato: shit. I'd rather have a potato.

Sweet potato wedges are better than normal potato wedges.

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It's a moot point.

Potato/Sweet potato wedges: shit. I'd rather have chips.


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Grim... wrote:
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- Sweet potato: shit. I'd rather have a potato.

Sweet potato wedges are better than normal potato wedges.

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Complete bullshit. Sweet potato is too wet to ever get a decent crisp on.

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Beef lasagne: shit. You’d rather have horse.

Yeah, we all know the extent of your culinary ideals, Findus.


I'll have you know that horse was just resting in my pancake.


:DD

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Mr Dave wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
My rigorous vetting process to see if I like cake:

Step 1: Is it cake?

I like it.

I used to think like this, but then I came across the most unholy courgette cake. Nobody liked that. I believe it went in the bin. (after about 15 people had tried it, none managing to finish even a single slice)


I've enjoyed a nice courgette cake before. Though it's very important that it's not JUST a courgette cake. There needs to be some fun flavouring in there, as the courgette is just bringing the moistness.

It had lots of chocolate. The courgette mainly brought the superglue. (As in the damn thing set solid in your mouth.)


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I have to say, it's quite nice being able to listen to test match special on my morning commute and be able to have the cricket on TV in the office. As a bonus, it's actually looking to be a decent contest.


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N00b tears and wants all games to have all the ways to play them. Thanks to meatyangel for commenting o it on Facebook.

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I don't get it. Are people upset about being passively mocked for playing games on easy? id games have always done that.


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Let's also spare a second to contemplate on how seven difficulty levels is clearly too fucking many difficulty levels. Some product manager needs to read The Paradox Of Choice.

(Also, new Wolf and Doom aren't by iD, haven't been for years.)


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I don't get it. Are people upset about being passively mocked for playing games on easy? id games have always done that.


Nazi kill him when he wants to pick Edelweiss so shouldn't there be a game mode just with Edelweiss and no Nazis. The overblown masculinity also semi to cause issues.

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(Also, new Wolf and Doom aren't by iD, haven't been for years.)


True. But it's the same... (idiom, sir?) ... yes, idiom.


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Curiosity wrote:
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Beef lasagne: shit. You’d rather have horse.

Yeah, we all know the extent of your culinary ideals, Findus.


I'll have you know that horse was just resting in my pancake.


:DD

LLOL.


You know, since the horsemeat scandal, cheap burgers and lasagne are way worse. Bring back horsey burgers!

(I have horse jerky, and thats awesome. The only way I like horses is in my belly.)


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I have to say, it's quite nice being able to listen to test match special on my morning commute and be able to have the cricket on TV in the office. As a bonus, it's actually looking to be a decent contest.

Err what? It's a shellacking

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I have to say, it's quite nice being able to listen to test match special on my morning commute and be able to have the cricket on TV in the office. As a bonus, it's actually looking to be a decent contest.

Err what? It's a shellacking

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I have to say, it's quite nice being able to listen to test match special on my morning commute and be able to have the cricket on TV in the office. As a bonus, it's actually looking to be a decent contest.

Err what? It's a shellacking


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N00b tears and wants all games to have all the ways to play them. Thanks to meatyangel for commenting o it on Facebook.



I agree with him.

I've played through Wolfenstein 2 on 'Bring it on!', and it really is quite uneven difficulty wise. SOme bits are bloody infuriating, some bits are easy as pie. There's bits where it seems to want to be nu-Doom, (here's a small area, defend it, but enemies come from everywhere so don't try to find cover and turtle), but BJ ain't Doomguy, he can't take as much punishment.

I can see how dropping it to easy might help even things out.

If I was designing a difficulty menu for this particular game, I'd go with:

*Story (easy combat and stealth)
*Stealth (focus on the stealth aspect, slightly dumber enemies, slightly weaker enemies, more punishment for getting caught, but ability to reset the alert status by hiding)
*Rock and Roll (combat focused, tougher BJ, more ammo, more health and armour pickups, no stealth aspects at all)
*Full Monty (Game as presented)
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I have to say, it's quite nice being able to listen to test match special on my morning commute and be able to have the cricket on TV in the office. As a bonus, it's actually looking to be a decent contest.

Err what? It's a shellacking


The last 24 hours or so have brought about that most dangerous of thing. Hope!


Oh man. 2-0 down would still probably lead to a huge overall defeat. But my, it's close overall. I am in Adelaide (outskirts). I did not go. Tomorrow, entry is by 'gold coin donation' (so, a quid). I am on a bus.

Still freaking excited. After 2013-14, just being in a contest is enough for me. But...but...it might be more.


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I agree too. It's the worst kind of toxic masculinity on show.

And the cricket too. :D

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N00b tears and wants all games to have all the ways to play them. Thanks to meatyangel for commenting o it on Facebook.



I agree with him.

I've played through Wolfenstein 2 on 'Bring it on!', and it really is quite uneven difficulty wise. SOme bits are bloody infuriating, some bits are easy as pie. There's bits where it seems to want to be nu-Doom, (here's a small area, defend it, but enemies come from everywhere so don't try to find cover and turtle), but BJ ain't Doomguy, he can't take as much punishment.

I can see how dropping it to easy might help even things out.

If I was designing a difficulty menu for this particular game, I'd go with:

*Story (easy combat and stealth)
*Stealth (focus on the stealth aspect, slightly dumber enemies, slightly weaker enemies, more punishment for getting caught, but ability to reset the alert status by hiding)
*Rock and Roll (combat focused, tougher BJ, more ammo, more health and armour pickups, no stealth aspects at all)
*Full Monty (Game as presented)
*Legendary (for the masochists)


Western developers can't seem to even do 3 difficulty settings right (usually higher difficulty is just upping enemies HP and damage) and you want even more difficulty settings? If they aren't willing to put as much effort as japanese developers into the difficulty settings, they should just focus on one.

And I wish developers wouldn't listen to the kind of games sites like Kotaku and Polygon. They are a joke but apparently their opinions still have some weight in the industry. Why should every game be for everyone? It's perfectly fine for some games to be hard and others easy and the consumer to choose. It's better to developers to focus on their vision and make the best game they can. Nintendo games have been laughably easy for ages and it's fine (haven't played the latest zelda so can't comment on that one). They're just not for me.


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I’ve often thought this in the past. Largely when I was shit at a game, and on limited lives (and restart from the beginning) you would often be denied the whole game. Not so much an issue these days but still.
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