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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 14:25 
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Cap get! The guy had a Seat Ibiza on the forecourt, it uses the same cap. I now have the Ibiza's cap.

If any of you are buying a Seat Ibiza on the IOM in the near future. Check the coolant expansion tank cap is present.

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Hmmm. You know what I think? I think this car is losing coolant. Not much, but it's losing it.

See 'COOLIO1' and 'COOLIO2' below. Admittedly there's a slight difference in the angle but even accounting for that, I think the level is lower in COOLIO2. (And there's only about 50 miles between these two pictures.)

I wonder if this starts to solve the mystery of THE MISSING COOLANT EXPANSION TANK CAP, and also why a four month old vehicle with 2500 miles on it with only one private owner had found its way to British Car Auctions.

I will be checking this daily, and if my suspicions are confirmed, at least it'll get fixed under warranty. (Unless there's some horrible exemption in there for something like this.)

Stupid German cars. Just like Mercedes.

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Fun fact! Seat's coolant system is named the Cooltronic.


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Fun fact! Seat's coolant system is named the Cooltronic.


Same in German, apparently.

(If you look round the back of the tank it's got a little 'MADE BY VW/AUDI GROUP' embossment on it. Or MADE BY VAG, or something like that. And I know embossment isn't a word.)

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If you check it daily you won't see it being used - mark it with a pen (when the car is level) and check it every week. Also make sure the car is the same temperature (ie. stone cold) when you check it.

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If you check it daily you won't see it being used - mark it with a pen (when the car is level) and check it every week. Also make sure the car is the same temperature (ie. stone cold) when you check it.


That's the thing, I think it's visibly dropped in about 50 miles, albeit only slightly. Both those pics were taken with the car completely cold.

I hope I'm wrong as it's almost in the realms of 'visual margin of error' given slightly different camera angles, but the car was parked in the same place for both shots, which is on a slight angle (but also consistent between the two pics).

If you look at the 'start point' on the left hand side where the coolant and the crosses on the tank intersect, it definitely looks lower in COOLIO2 to me.

I have been thinking to myself 'Why the fuck was the cap off the coolant tank in a four month old car with 2500 miles on it?'.

Also, I topped the coolant off once I put the replacement cap on the tank, the level was lower than that at that point.


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You can't tell unless it's on a flat surface. Sure, it's leaning to the side, but what if it's also leaning to the front?

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You can't tell unless it's on a flat surface. Sure, it's leaning to the side, but what if it's also leaning to the front?


Both pictures were taken with the car parked in exactly the same spot at the back of our house, the only difference is the camera angle (which isn't much of a difference).

So whatever the leanings of the car in any particular direction might be (pro-Brexit, anti-abortion, ambivalent on drug law reform, etc), it's a consistent reporting position, a bit like a set of scales that you know underweighs by a half a pound.

I'll check it daily from now on, if it should become obvious that the coolant level is dropping, even if only slowly, it's getting taken back to get fixed.


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Mines a mk1 so nothing like yours but it pissed out coolant when the temp sensor was replaced incorrectly by a twonk mechanic. Know what work it's had done lately?

Or just leave it as you'll be buying something else in January.

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Today's sexy coolant expansion tank pic.

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Wow, that's dropping like a stone.

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That *does* look lower.


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That *does* look lower.


That was taken when I walked back to my car down on the prom after work, it'd been parked there since 7:15am, so the engine was completely cold.

Anyway, it's had a 20 mile drive since then, so I'll pop out later and take another look after it's fully cooled down again.


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Hmmm, I've managed to find a different angle.


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Early morning pic by torchlight.

It doesn't seem any lower than the last one but deffo seems lower than the early ones.

Tchoh. I guess it'll become obvious within a few days one way or the other.

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Don't worry about it. If it keeps going down at this rate there will still be loads left by the time you sell it.


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:D

I think the longest I've ever kept a single car is the Scooby (IIRC that was nearly two years), the average historically has been 12-18 months but I have been on a bit of a mad one recently for reasons I'm not entirely sure of.

With the benefit of hindsight in terms of recent cars I'd say the S4 was probably the sweet spot. The Type-R was a bit too batshit and the Leon is a bit too boring.

Maybe an S3 or Golf GTi is about right.


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They're all the kind of the same, though, normal cars with but with hard suspension and bigger engines. Wouldn't you be better off with a boring family car and something made purely for driving fun like a Caterham or something. It would be loads cheaper.


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Mali.. Are you saving number 4 on the heater for when it snows?


1 and 2 don't work, so 3 is "Low" and 4 is "High". "High" drowns out the radio, which, in turn, drowns out the noisy exhaust after 82 powers blew the baffling from it.

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No, that's the ice mode switch. You use it when it is icy. It sucks the cold from the ice and blows it through the vents in the car so you know it is working.

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One of my mates at work has bought the Type-R. He made a cheeky offer of £21K and it was accepted.

It was parked in the work car park this afternoon.

So he's got an awesome Type-R and I've got a leaky Seat.

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Shame he didn't mention it before it went to the dealer.

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Fixed my last leaky door today while it was dry. Known fault on the Mk1 Leons and easy to fix, only bust one panel clip (had bag of spares anyway).

Looks like I need two new front tyres, very smooth looking :D Probably the most noticeable difference I've felt, tyre wise, having the Toyo Proxies on, they've worn quicker than most other brands I've had before though. But they were free so I'm not complaining.

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Shame he didn't mention it before it went to the dealer.

That he works with the freaky car changer?

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Shame he didn't mention it before it went to the dealer.


I did and said he could have it for the same money I was being offered on trade-in, but he was being a fanny about it and saying he didn't have the cash right now and didn't want to move cash between bank accounts and could I wait until January and suchlike. (He didn't want to ask his missus about getting cash out of their joint account, basically.)

I reminded him that he knows how I roll with cars and that things can escalate quickly, which is exactly what happened and I traded the car in.

Thereafter he was inspired to make an extra push to confront THE WIFE BOSS, and secured enough funding to make an offer to the dealer of £21K but not a penny more, an offer which was accepted.

So it ended up costing him an extra grand, basically.

Now I feel all wistful and nostalgic for the time when I had an FK2 Type-R.

Maybe I'll get an FK8 Type-R, that'll learn him.


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Like I said two cars ago.


I think it'll be a good 12 months before I can get into an FK8, ex-demonstrators are £30K and I reckon prices will drop fairly slowly, as they did with the FK2. (And the FK8 has just won Top Gear's car of the year award.)

The FK8 has a COMFORT mode as well as SPORT and R+ (the FK2 just had SPORT and R+), if mine had possessed a comfort mode, that might have been enough to tip over into keeping it.

Oh well, I'll do boring motoring for a year and see what the lie of the land is, we might all be driving electric cars by then.

Speaking of boring motoring, I returned to the dealer today and showed him the photographic chronicles of the draining coolant tank, he agreed it looked like the level was dropping, and the resolution was if by the start of next week it's still heading south, he'll take the car back to do a pressure test on the coolant system, and then get a warranty repair organised as required. This would of course see me in a courtesy car if the Leon needs to go off the road, so hopefully the courtesy car won't be too crap.

At least Android Auto is great and I'm getting loads of miles per gallon.


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Was in work this morning due to a P1 call and was working with the mate who's bought the Type-R. Once we'd returned a naughty cluster to a better-behaved state we walked back out to the car park and appraised each other's vehicles.

Part of me did feel a bit sad about the Type-R not being mine any more, not least because it just looks so fucking awesome.

There were a couple of things he wanted me to go through on the infotainment system with him (which is a Honda bespoke Android affair and has its share of 'quirks' which I'd become well acquainted with), so I sat down in the passenger seat and immediately remembered the things I found hard work about the car, not least its utterly uncompromising track credentials, which becomes very apparent as soon as you climb into the figure-hugging bucket seats. (And I mean 'climb into', these things are reinforced with metal at the sides).

Once we'd resolved the infotainment issues it was time to drive to Maccy D's (after I'd climbed out of my bucket seat....), I was driving behind him and whilst I still think the FK2 Type-R is a phenomenally cool looking car and a magnificent piece of engineering, I found myself appreciating the comfort of the Leon and its easier driving experience, as well as the much better infotainment system and Android Auto. (It's got a DAB radio too, which means BBC Radio 6 Music on the move, which is cool as that's my favourite radio station.)

Quite glad it's a mate who's got the Type-R TBH, as it means I get to appreciate how incredible it is, without having to actually drive it every day.

He's totally made up with it and loves it to pieces, and he'll keep it for years, he generally does 6-8 years per car. I'm still utterly bewildered by his choice though, as his daily commute to and from work is two miles each way, through a mix of 20/30/40 zones. He says he's not fussed about that though, and just enjoys driving it anyway.

Oh yes the coolant in the Leon appears to have stopped going down, so no fucking idea what the deal is there.


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EXCITING ROVER NEWS! Since the oil went out through the exhaust, and wasn't replaced, it now sounds dog rough, exhaust needs joining together and it is down to 24mpg.

Edit: oil level seems fine. Exhaust needs a look, I suppose. Suspect oil smoke from exhaust due to valve seals and not a major leak. 24mpg could be a week of shitty stop and start traffic, and engine running for longer to do same trips, I guess.

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Boring family car time... :)

Any recomedations on people carriers?

Now we have 2 kids I'm thinking of getting one, plan would be to trade in both cars against the people carrier and then I would lease something for a couple of years. Maybe a Golf R :)


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Boring family car time... :)

Any recomedations on people carriers?

Now we have 2 kids I'm thinking of getting one, plan would be to trade in both cars against the people carrier and then I would lease something for a couple of years. Maybe a Golf R :)


Get a VW California then you can get away from things at the weekend too.

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