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I'm the other way round from you guys in that I never have booze in the house and always go to pubs to drink. I really like taking my tablet to a pub and just sitting reading comics and whatnot while getting slowly sozzled. That's probably very weird of me, but it's nice to be sort of out-and-about and in places with an atmosphere while still just chilling out on my own. It means the temptation to go to the pub of a weekend is always there though even if I don't have any plans to meet friends or whatever and that's dangerous for losing weight. Not least because one symptom of doing that is the general desire to buy loads of crap food on the way back to my flat which doubles down on the damage.


I also love going to the pub (albeit to socialise) which is part of the problem. :DD

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Can't beat a pub. :)

Well done Jem and Bamba.

I am putting weight on bit not getting bigger, which i find odd.

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Todger muscle, right? Happens in your forties.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I will go with that...

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Decided to start actually using MFP, and I'm going to start doing my home workouts again. I am currently 175lbs. I have a rough goal weight of 150lbs in mind, but the key is to get back into a size 12 without feeling like I'm going to die from blood/oxygen restriction. I want to achieve this by my anniversary.


Managed to squeeze my butt into some size 12 jeans this morning with only minimal muffin top. :DD 1 month to go until our anniversary :)

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I might be mistaken but I don't think you start a triathlon stark bollock naked.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I might be mistaken but I don't think you start a triathlon stark bollock naked.


Technically yes. When I wake up.

But no nakedness at a race.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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If I agree to do one of these triathlons again... slap me..

I am doing 12 hours of training a week... I feel broken!!

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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12kg of bone? Thought it'd be more.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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How do you work it out?


The weight is KG. The rest are %. The scales I use have metal plates on that send a current round the body. Fat, muscle and bone are differing density.

I doubt it is very accurate, but it seem constant.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Pretty sure current based density measures are junk science

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Pretty sure current based density measures are junk science


They can scan for Thetans though.

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Don't piss on my chips..... *sobs*


But it would help keep you off the chips.

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Not sure how much I weigh, but I'm feeling much better and steadily upping my weights / resistance / reps at the gym.

Been eating very well... but still succumb to biscuit barrel raids after my tea though.

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Don't piss on my chips..... *sobs*


Think about it logically - sure, it's measuring resistance to current as it passes through your body, which we know is altered by passing through different tissues. But why would it take any route other than up one leg and down the other? Even if it did, how would the scales be able to differentiate based on what route it took? If it's going up one leg and down the other, how would it measure any part of your body other than your legs?

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You'd need to plug it in 'spit-roast' style really, Kov.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I don't like the sound of passing electrical current through my body to measure density. My heart runs on electrickery.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Mine runs on pork fat.

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Think about it logically - sure, it's measuring resistance to current as it passes through your body, which we know is altered by passing through different tissues. But why would it take any route other than up one leg and down the other? Even if it did, how would the scales be able to differentiate based on what route it took? If it's going up one leg and down the other, how would it measure any part of your body other than your legs?


What is it with you and Physics.. Is this another grenade?

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This may help...

Most of these types of scales use bioelectrical impedance. That is to say, they send a safe and very low electrical current through the lower half of the body. Since the electrical current flows more quickly through water and muscle than bone or fat, the scale measures the speed of the current.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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How do you work it out?


The weight is KG. The rest are %. The scales I use have metal plates on that send a current round the body. Fat, muscle and bone are differing density.

I doubt it is very accurate, but it seem constant.

The % don't add up to 100?

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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This may help...

Most of these types of scales use bioelectrical impedance. That is to say, they send a safe and very low electrical current through the lower half of the body. Since the electrical current flows more quickly through water and muscle than bone or fat, the scale measures the speed of the current.


Yes. Two main problems with that.

1) Path of least resistance. Got a big fat butt? The current will just take a path that doesn't pass through your big fat butt.
2) By their own definition, they're only measuring your legs. The body does not evenly distribute fat/water all over the place, so it's meaningless to pretend that the legs are an acceptable model for the whole body. This is, for obvious reasons, an exaggerated problem for women.

Not to take away anything from what you've done, man - your weight loss and getting in shape are well impressive! Your scales are bunk though ;)

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ok... i will google that too...


When reading your data, keep in mind our bodies are made up of 50% – 65% water. It’s important to note that all tissue, including bone, contains water. Muscle contains more water than fat does. Muscle contains up to 75% water, bone can contain up to 22% water, and fat tissue contains up to a mere 10% of water. Men have more body water than women, which in part is because they carry more skeletal muscle and less essential fat.

These water percentages are important to note when speaking about body fat scales. Because both fat and muscle contain water, part of their total weight includes water weight. This will cause the overall total to be higher than 100%.

For instance, the following stats come from a 172.8-pound man:

Fat: 20.6 percent

Water: 60.5 percent

Muscle: 46.8 percent

Total percentage: 127.9

The total equals 127.9 because body water is found in both the muscle and fat, which increases the total percentage. His water percentage is pretty much on target and his body fat and muscle mass are both within the healthy range.

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That addresses neither of the issues.

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It says why it does not add to 100%.. and your body acts as a complete circuit. This measures more than your legs.

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your body acts as a complete circuit. This measures more than your legs.


It doesn't though. That's completely made up. Their own comment that you posted upthread says the current is only passed through the lower half of the body.

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Here's a decent link covering the issues:

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“BIA* had the biggest spread of all the methods, even bigger than BMI,” explains Weightology founder James Krieger. “The error rate got as high as 8%, and that’s for detecting a change over time. So one could lose 4% body fat, yet BIA might show an increase in body fat of 4%.”


https://muscleevo.net/body-fat-scales/

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your body acts as a complete circuit. This measures more than your legs.


It doesn't though. That's completely made up. Their own comment that you posted upthread says the current is only passed through the lower half of the body.


As you stand on the plates.. it does not stop at your bollocks, it will do the whole of your body.

When you use a van der gaff gernertor, you hair stands up, as you complete a circuit.

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Here's a decent link covering the issues:

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“BIA* had the biggest spread of all the methods, even bigger than BMI,” explains Weightology founder James Krieger. “The error rate got as high as 8%, and that’s for detecting a change over time. So one could lose 4% body fat, yet BIA might show an increase in body fat of 4%.”


https://muscleevo.net/body-fat-scales/


To be fair the results are similar, to the one i had done at BUPA, which connects multiple connection on your body.

Yes it is not exact, but the same scales and the same body, will be consistent.

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What ever the scales say, Kov, I think you're lovely.

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It doesn't though. That's completely made up. Their own comment that you posted upthread says the current is only passed through the lower half of the body.


As you stand on the plates.. it does not stop at your bollocks, it will do the whole of your body.

When you use a van der gaff gernertor, you hair stands up, as you complete a circuit.

Not getting involved with the scales and the circuitry, but what do you think you are completing a circuit with when you touch a Van Der Graff generator?

You touch it with your hand, not your legs, and also you're stood on the ground, which is not part of any circuit, unless the whole Earth is a circuit.

Actually, doesn't matter, Kov, your body work is great, but don't get hung up on these bollocks figures.

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