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It did, but it wasn't hugely satisfying. I wanted to see proper biomechanical space jockeys, goddamnit, not the Engineers in a Shell that we got.

I actually really enjoyed Prometheus on second viewing (which was quite recently). I don't know why as the flaws were still apparent.

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It did, but it wasn't hugely satisfying. I wanted to see proper biomechanical space jockeys, goddamnit, not the Engineers in a Shell that we got.

I actually really enjoyed Prometheus on second viewing (which was quite recently). I don't know why as the flaws were still apparent.

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Maybe our expectations were lower? I dunno

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GazChap wrote:
It did, but it wasn't hugely satisfying. I wanted to see proper biomechanical space jockeys, goddamnit, not the Engineers in a Shell that we got.


Kinda this, although it's also possible that I forgot some details from Promehteus too (or maybe I didn' pick up on them... or even it wasn't in the version I watched, perhaps). Like if the xenomorphs are biological weapons how and why DA FUQ did it get to a point where that seemed like a good idea.

The fall of advanced civilisations is quite an interesting thing in films. Harking to a different film - I thought that the best bot of Man of Steel was when they talked about how and why krypton fell - plus it had that really neat 'infographic' picture story thingybob.

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I watched the first half of the David Brent movie last night.. It's not very funny. In fact, It's not funny at all.


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I watched the first half of the David Brent movie last night.. It's not very funny. In fact, It's not funny at all.

I did not need to see it to know that.


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It's weird because I'm not sure it's meant to be funny? I mean, when reading the script, surely they weren't sitting around in stiches? Didn't anyone notice?


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Did I mention that I'd started to watch it? Well I did but it didn't last long before it had to be deleted.

It's difficult to sum up why I didn't get on with it. It's kinda like being back in school and watching the popular kids bully someone you don't like very much because they're a bit of a dick themself. The popular kids think what they're doing is hilarious but as a passive third party you don't find any amusement in their antics and just feel sorry for the victim but not that much that you want to get involved.


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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.


Good satire punches both up and down. It punches anything that needs a punch.

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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

Ricky Gervais has never been funny, these days or any other days.


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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

Ricky Gervais has never been funny, these days or any other days.

I disagree. In the original Office and Extras he played flawed but redeemable "ordinary" people who more often than not were the butt of the jokes due to their own actions based on their insecurities. Then he did Life's Too Short where they had Warwick Davies play David Brent and Derek where he played someone with learning disabilities and I don't know why he thought that was a good idea. His films haven't been very good and I lost interest in his standup when he made a pointless rape joke for shock value only in Science. He's not done anything good in over a decade and has long since disappeared up his own arse.

Andy, give me a good example of satire that punches down please?

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Dave Chappelle's 'Celebrity Trial Jury Selection' sketch punches both down (at black people who are unable to convict any black person, no matter the evidence) and up (at the hideous corruption of the system that would cause this behaviour to happen).

My opinion on this is limited to satire that is attacking vices and behaviours that are poor, regardless of status. Actually just mocking people for their status is obviously different.

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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

Ricky Gervais has never been funny, these days or any other days.

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Dave Chappelle's 'Celebrity Trial Jury Selection' sketch punches both down (at black people who are unable to convict any black person, no matter the evidence) and up (at the hideous corruption of the system that would cause this behaviour to happen).

My opinion on this is limited to satire that is attacking vices and behaviours that are poor, regardless of status. Actually just mocking people for their status is obviously different.

Ok, good answer. Thanks for clarifying.

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Lonewolves wrote:
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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

Ricky Gervais has never been funny, these days or any other days.

I disagree. In the original Office and Extras he played flawed but redeemable "ordinary" people who more often than not were the butt of the jokes due to their own actions based on their insecurities. Then he did Life's Too Short where they had Warwick Davies play David Brent and Derek where he played someone with learning disabilities and I don't know why he thought that was a good idea. His films haven't been very good and I lost interest in his standup when he made a pointless rape joke for shock value only in Science. He's not done anything good in over a decade and has long since disappeared up his own arse.

Yep.

Slithered up his own arse.

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Ricky Gervais is a good comedy performer if he has good material, but if you listen to him talking about the office now, he doesn't actually understand why it works. Steven Merchant was the brains of that operation. They've gone their separate ways, and Hello Ladies is a fairly good demonstration that Merchant is a smart comedy writer. That us TV show that had Louis CK, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld and Gervais on was hilarious for showing how massively out of his league he was. The rest just largely ignored him except for when they wanted to be polite.

Edit: I imagine being in a bubble where he was successful enough that he can always find work and is told every joke he comes up with is genius didn't help.


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Mr Dave wrote:
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I find comedy that punches down just isn't that funny these days. Like Ian says it just comes across as bullying.

Ricky Gervais has never been funny, these days or any other days.


:this:

I really don't get why people think he's some kind of comedy genius.


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Gervais was funny on the 11 O'Clock Show, but anything after that has basically just been that character turned up to 11.

The thing that really annoys the piss out of me about Gervais though, is the length of his stand-up shows. Most (citation needed) stand-up comedians will do a show that lasts, at minimum, 90 minutes - some stretching into the realms of 2 hours and (famously, in the case of Lee Evans) even longer.

All his shows are under 80 minutes (shortest just over an hour) and he charges a fair old whack for tickets. After his first show got a negative review from Ian Hislop, he ended every show on that tour afterwards with a derogatory remark about Hislop.

I can't decide whether it's just the character or whether he's actually like it, but he seems to just be an insufferable arse with a massively over-inflated ego.


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Ricky Gervais is in the same Venn diagram set as Mrs Browns Boys and Brexit for me. I know hardly anyone who likes him or wants more of him, yet they all seem to be increasingly prevalent and unavoidable.

He sits in the Union between that set and the set of 'People who laugh loudly at their own jokes, even more so when they're not actually funny'. Population: Myp.


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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Population: Myp + Riles.

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Ricky Gervais is in the same Venn diagram set as Mrs Browns Boys and Brexit for me. I know hardly anyone who likes him or wants more of him, yet they all seem to be increasingly prevalent and unavoidable.


Where does Ed Sheeran sit in this Venn?


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I quite like Sheeran, so he does not.

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To be fair, I would rather watch Ricky Gervais than that, hypocritical, plagiarising twat Stewart Lee.

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Films wot I watched:

Moana: You know what you'll be getting because it's a Disney animated film. Starring The Rock and a bunch of people I haven't heard of. But is it any good? Well, can The Rock sing!? Exactly.

Christmas Office Party: Jennifer Anniston continues her assault on comedy films by being brilliant still in comedy films. I think she's bloody awesome in everything she's in. And hot, Jesus Christ she's gorgeous. Anyway, it's funny without being overly crass although there's lots of the usual slapstick rubbish. The last third is a bit gash. I preferred Sisters with Tina Fey. Still, more films with Jennifer Anniston in is good for me.

Why Him?: Breaking Bad's chief pharmacologist tries his hand as a stuffy dad (again) who meets his daughter's zany millionaire boyfriend, played by James Franco, who says Fuck and Muthafucker in every other sentence! Do they get on? Oh noes. Ho ho. Amazing. Actually it's just a really mediocre low base "comedy". I wouldn't bother.

Assassin's Creed: I watched 9 minutes and 45 seconds. Piss poor direction, editing and dialogue. I just know it's going to be bad. If I've got absolutely nothing better to do with my life I'll watch another 10 minutes.

Kill Bill vol.1: It turns out I have better looking feet than Uma Thurman. Who knew!?


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Yeah I dunno
https://youtu.be/INLzqh7rZ-U

I still don't think Gal Gadot is particularly good at the whole acting thing. Looks alright though. The DC movies seem to always get decent trailers that aren't actually very representative of the films (the Man of Steel trailers were fucking fantastic).


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I don't think the trailer looks good, even.

I'm going to a screening of GitS on the 24th. The proper one, my hopes for the hollywood one were utterly dashed when the trailer landed.


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I saw GitS last month at the cinema, and it was amazing.

I think the Hollywood one is going to be okay. Batou looks a bit small, though.

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I don't think the trailer looks good, even.

I'm going to a screening of GitS on the 24th. The proper one, my hopes for the hollywood one were utterly dashed when the trailer landed.


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No, the original movie.

I noticed a few weeks ago my box of SAC 1st gig has vanished, I am sad.

I thought the Hollywood one was looking really good from the teasers, but the full trailer makes it pretty clear they've chucked nearly everything out.


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Tonight we watched San Andreas with The Rock... It was brilliant!


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It is a good film, but it was super bizarre to me that there wasn't any scene where the rock met Paul giamatti, like it was just two films spliced together.


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I watched a load of stuff over the weekend.

Birdman: I really enjoyed this. The performances, comedy and the overall style of it (not least the soundtrack) made for engaging viewing with only the weakly inconsistent ending marring the experience. Having finally watched it though I'm confused as to why there was supposed to be all this debate over the nature of the lead character.
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He's not a superhero. He's just an actor prone to flights of fancy, with the Birdman character representing the aspect of himself that wants to just retreat into the comfortable world of popcorn movies and give up on the theatre. The whole bit with the taxi driver is a blatant attempt to signpost this.


Elle: Isabelle Huppert plays the head of a computer game studio who is raped in her home. Though brushing the experience off as unimportant to friends and family she starts investigating her attacker and some pretty twisted hijinks ensue. During my time of watching the film I thoroughly enjoyed it with it's dark humour and brilliant performances from everyone involved. Thinking about it later on though it sends some problematic as fuck signals in that, not only does she just brush the entire thing off as unimportant and carry on seemingly unaffected, but
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. Everything comes 'good' in the end, but the journey to that could easily be argued to totally minimise the impact being raped generally has on the victim's life.

Kong: Skull Island: monster flicks aren't something I'm generally interested in but the trailer for this implied a sense of humour about itself that was demonstrated in the final cut as well. It doesn't do anything particularly new ('man is the real monster' of course) but it does it stylishly with a very good cast and decent CGI. Well worth a watch.

The Green Room: punk band play at a nazi venue and see something they shouldn't; brutally violent hijinks ensure. I've been looking forward to this one for ages and was left slightly disappointed. The plot itself lends itself it simplicity but there seemed to be a few confused attempts to beef it up with aspects that just passed me by entirely (or I'm too dumb or wasn't paying enough attention to catch what was happening). Performances from the members of the band--including yer man who played Sulu in the Start Trek reboot--were very good in general but Patrick Stewart as the head nazi was nowhere near as interesting as I was hoping for. In my head he was going to be all scenery chewing evil but in reality he did fuck all of note and was a pretty polite figure throughout; opportunity missed there.


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Were you round at his or did he come to you?

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The Green Room: punk band play at a nazi venue and see something they shouldn't; brutally violent hijinks ensure. I've been looking forward to this one for ages and was left slightly disappointed. The plot itself lends itself it simplicity but there seemed to be a few confused attempts to beef it up with aspects that just passed me by entirely (or I'm too dumb or wasn't paying enough attention to catch what was happening). Performances from the members of the band--including yer man who played Sulu in the Start Trek reboot--were very good in general but Patrick Stewart as the head nazi was nowhere near as interesting as I was hoping for. In my head he was going to be all scenery chewing evil but in reality he did fuck all of note and was a pretty polite figure throughout; opportunity missed there.


Yeah pretty much exactly what I said about it - viewtopic.php?p=913597#p913597

I was waiting for Patrick Stewart to offer everyone a nice cup of tea, since it seemed like it'd be entirely in character for this most polite of nazis, who kind of makes nazis seem OK, really. Like, you could get on with nazis alright, if they were all similar to Patrick Stewart.

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Finally got to see 'GREEN ROOM' last night which is solid but not amazing and I felt not as good as BLUE RUIN. (Perhaps the director's next film will be 'RED CRUET' or something.)

The premise is fairly straightforward, a struggling punk band play a gig at a white supremacist club, see something they shouldn't, and are not allowed to leave, but obviously they want to leave. TROUBLES ensue.

I was really looking forward to seeing Patrick Stewart playing a nazi but it turns out he just does old Picard (he's even polite!) albeit a bit more murdery and prone to saying 'fuck' and the n word occasionally.

It was a decent watch and it held my interest, but for my money it lacked the originality and offbeat sort of feel that Blue Ruin had. The violence was pleasingly icky although I definitely got a feeling there'd been a bit snippity-snip going on for the R rating, one of the attacks in particular was very jerkily edited.

Oh yes and it's got the Chekov guy out of Star Trek in it who's dead now because he got squashed by his car. He's pretty good in this.

I'm saying good but not great. 7.5/10.


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Oh yes I watched 'I, DANIEL BLAKE' last night which was incredibly good.

It's one of the most nakedly political films I've ever watched, which is fine by me, it had a purity of purpose that I really admired.

There are a couple of truly heartbreaking scenes, but overall it's not played out as some kind of miserablist emotional torture device. Instead we're presented with ordinary people falling upon hard and difficult times, trying to maintain their dignity and decency as best they can in the face of an oppressively bureaucratic system that's clearly been devised by a brutal and uncaring government to grind them down to nothing.

This film is not without hope, but it is a devastatingly effective howl of anger borne of the misery and indignities being inflicted upon those who need help and support, instead of indifference and vilification. Still, at least the FTSE's riding high, eh?

Watch out for getting 'dust in your eyes'.

Highly recommended.

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I remembered something else interesting about Elle this morning. As I mentioned, the lead character is the head of a games studio. Weirdly though, in the film, they're not developing a fictional game; they were working on the new Styx game which releases today. It's an odd thing to do because (a) the game they're working on has no real impact on the narrative so could've easily just been made something generic for the sake of the film and (b) the film's narrative does not speak well of a few of the developer characters so it's not like it paints the real life studio in a positive light. Also, y'know, violent and twisted rape revenge story: not exactly your usual fluffy cross-promotion type of thing. I do really wonder why the real life Cyanide Studio went for this deal at all.


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John Wick chapter 2.

GUN-FUCKING-TASTIC.

Are you an inspiring direction who wants to know how to film a fight scene? Watch the first 5 minutes. No shakey cam, just a stationary camera pulled back far enough to see absolutely everything.

Criticisms:

Story? Virtually nonexistent. Kinda stupid. Face punchingly ridiculous ending for a clearly planned sequel.

Keanu? Better when he shuts his goddamn cake hole. He's actiontastic though.

Action: 3 main scenes which is the same as the original and, frankly, deserved at least one more extended scene shoved in there. No one came to see Neo punch and kick people: we came for the gun porn. Likewise no one is interested in Keanu burning around in his brum brum we just want to see him shoot people in the head. People do get shot in the head. I like that. Wicky-wicky-wild-wild-Wick does seem to showboat for the audience a lot more this time and shoots people in the legs when the original Wick revelled in hitting the brain box as quickly as possible. I can't complain though since there were a lot of head shots. There wasn't nearly enough of shotgun Wick because shotgun Wick is the best Wick. The magpul mag-flip was AWESOME. Checking the ejection port on a pistol with one hand was also awesome. Actually I didn't mind the punching and kicking when there was stabbing involved. Lots of stabbing. Anyway, my biggest complaint: bullet proof suit. It's shit, too comic booky and I don't like it. Also: the gun porn was gun porntastic.

I want to watch it again. Not as good as the original but still a romping good head shot time.

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Some of us like hearing muscle cars being trundled about.

Hopefully it'll be soon to bluray, because it looks like I still hate cinemagoers too much (yes yes, can't deal with them well enough, my problem not theirs etc etc) to go to the cinema. And that's based on a showing of Logan with a couple of dozen people in it.


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I really shouldn't be going to the GitS showing should I?


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Quite enjoyed Logan. Very bloody. Very sweary. Good stuff.

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Jem wrote:
Quite enjoyed Logan. Very bloody. Very sweary. Good stuff.


enough abut you, what about the film? :kiss:

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KovacsC wrote:
Jem wrote:
Quite enjoyed Logan. Very bloody. Very sweary. Good stuff.


enough abut you, what about the film? :kiss:


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I've watched Resident Evil: The Final Chapter. My god it's bad. This will surprise no one.


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