markg wrote:
American Nervoso wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
American Nervoso wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
American Nervoso wrote:
How's your telly?
Fucking Massive.
However I now been made to realise that I must be impoverished, so the happiness effect of a new television is more than offset by my realisation that I'm part of the downtrodden underclass.
Nice strawman.
This game is fun.
I believe that you'll find that the strawmen were:
1) Making an assumption that people were laughing at people because they are poor, and not acting like twats
2) Assuming that the people rushing into shops must be poor.
3) Combining the two into a rushed and lazy political narrative that in itself is actually offensive to the putative poor people by highlighting that the people acting like twats must be poor.
That's a pretty fair assessment of what happened. I apologise for my part of it as long as Mark does too.
I'd agree up to a point. Not on here but there has been quite a bit of exactly what I was talking about. As for profiling I'm probably guilty of thinking of the Asda where we do the weekly shop in which case I'd be pretty confident in my assessment. I don't know about that North London branch or perhaps what we were seeing there in the clip was actually a coachful of cardiologists who stopped off at Asda on the way back from their symposium for some bargain flatscreens, I don't know.
That happens to be the Asda up the road from where I used to live. To be honest I knew it would be before I clicked the link, because it's next to a
really rough estate (Chalkhill) and very close to St Raphael's, and in both live some of the poorest people in the country, in an area where the cost of living is really high.
Any time there's a story like this they send the news crews there because they
bet that this will be the way people react. It's not good, it makes me feel miserable, both the way the media target the area and that the people act this way.
It makes me feel sad that this
is the profile of the area to the fact that the media go there in the expectation that they will get these shots here. Is it judgemental, or experience? One of those two estates is where my family are from. I lived on one for a bit. My mother, and my two lovely bright intelligent brothers (I know some of you have met Peter at the Christmas quiz) all
still live there. It's a very poor area. Overcrowded, poor quality of life, high unemployment, drink and drugs problem. Material possessions seem very important to a lot of people there. The Ikea sale in Wembley often gets similar news crew attention any time they hold a big sale with one of those media grabbing discounts that sees people fall and push over each other to grab things for a discount.