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 Post subject: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:25 
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Again, you are ushered into the white room in a haze of nerve gas and sirens.

Again, there's a coffin.


"This will keep on happening, you know?"

The coffin opens

It is Goddess Jasmine


"Another Insignificant Test Subject, hoping to rid the room of killers.

I wonder if the rest of you will succeed where she did not."

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:38 
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Great, so we are in exactly the same position as yesterday in terms of open knowledge, but one townie down!

Anybody have any reason why we shouldn't carry on where we left off yesterday?


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:47 
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[vote:trooper]

Trooper said yesterday that he asked Boobies to confirm his role but that Boobies replied that he was too late. He wasn't. There are only four people who have confirmed roles. There is still time for someone else to confirm their role, hopefully, someone who has a protector role for me tonight.

I note that Krazywookie appears to be Troopers supabestmate, and also said he was too late to confirm, but that may be uncertainty, so just a big FOS for him for now.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:47 
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Oh, and before anybody tries to twist my words again. That "great" was obviously sarcastic.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:55 
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I also am suspicious of Trooper. Good guys don't tend to survive an almost-lynch, because there are always bad guys ready to pile on if the lynchee is actually innocent.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:57 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
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Trooper said yesterday that he asked Boobies to confirm his role but that Boobies replied that he was too late. He wasn't. There are only four people who have confirmed roles. There is still time for someone else to confirm their role, hopefully, someone who has a protector role for me tonight.

I note that Krazywookie appears to be Troopers supabestmate, and also said he was too late to confirm, but that may be uncertainty, so just a big FOS for him for now.


Errr... what?

I came in 2 hours after everyone else yesterday, sent a message to Boobies with my guess, and he replied back saying I was too late. How do you think there is still time? It was 5 guesses, not 5 confirmations!

Blimey, this is a crazy accusation. Anybody can test it, and I urge them too. Just send an email with a guess to Boobies and see what you get back. I also assume others got a message saying they were too late, I can't have been the only one to be too late.

You are either massively confused or desperate to get rid of me, this has made my vote more difficult today that is for sure! You or Grim... basically.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:59 
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@ Craster, that is normally true, but as the bad guys don't (most likely) know each other, then it has a little less weight than normal.
@APOD, How do you know this? I could understand if you had stated, "Trooper is a bad guy." But I can't imagine an investigative role which allows you to get the information you have stated.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Craster wrote:
I also am suspicious of Trooper. Good guys don't tend to survive an almost-lynch, because there are always bad guys ready to pile on if the lynchee is actually innocent.


That early in the game, where most people don't even know if they are good or bad (and possibly still don't)

I assume that means you are suspicious of Grim... too? If not, why not?


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:08 
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Trooper wrote:
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Trooper said yesterday that he asked Boobies to confirm his role but that Boobies replied that he was too late. He wasn't. There are only four people who have confirmed roles. There is still time for someone else to confirm their role, hopefully, someone who has a protector role for me tonight.

I note that Krazywookie appears to be Troopers supabestmate, and also said he was too late to confirm, but that may be uncertainty, so just a big FOS for him for now.


Errr... what?

I came in 2 hours after everyone else yesterday, sent a message to Boobies with my guess, and he replied back saying I was too late. How do you think there is still time? It was 5 guesses, not 5 confirmations!

Blimey, this is a crazy accusation. Anybody can test it, and I urge them too. Just send an email with a guess to Boobies and see what you get back. I also assume others got a message saying they were too late, I can't have been the only one to be too late.

You are either massively confused or desperate to get rid of me, this has made my vote more difficult today that is for sure! You or Grim... basically.


Well, sorry APOD I've re-read the rules and it seems you are correct, I totally misunderstood the rules:)

"But be careful and be quick; you only get one guess each, and only the first five correct guesses will be confirmed."

So it appears there is someone out there who has a confirmed role, but it isn't me. I was told I was too late with my guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:16 
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Trooper wrote:
I assume that means you are suspicious of Grim... too? If not, why not?


Yup. Although if he's a mason, as claimed, that's a good reason right there why there would be a group of people deliberately not voting for him.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:19 
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Oh bugger.. We lost a good guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:21 
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Craster wrote:
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I assume that means you are suspicious of Grim... too? If not, why not?


Yup. Although if he's a mason, as claimed, that's a good reason right there why there would be a group of people deliberately not voting for him.


Group? Considering, as grim... claims, the masons only know they are masons if they somehow randomly choose another mason to contact, and we only had 2 nights of activity by yesterday. That would be a pretty huge coincidence to get a big enough group to actively stop a lynch.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:21 
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What's Malc's vision for last night?

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:22 
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Group? Considering, as grim... claims, the masons only know they are masons if they somehow randomly choose another mason to contact, and we only had 2 nights of activity by yesterday. That would be a pretty huge coincidence to get a big enough group to actively stop a lynch.


Quite. But it's more than you're offering us.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Bobbyaro wrote:
@ Craster, that is normally true, but as the bad guys don't (most likely) know each other, then it has a little less weight than normal.
@APOD, How do you know this? I could understand if you had stated, "Trooper is a bad guy." But I can't imagine an investigative role which allows you to get the information you have stated.

Although our captor is an evil, psycopathic genius, he is shit at setting up a LAN. I sleep in a room which has a printer in it, and whenever he prints the summaries of day and night actions, it prints off in my room rather than in his control centre. I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:27 
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I saw a message overnight. It was written in charcoal and said "Trooper - he's a bad guy. I'm sure of it."
I'm pretty sure they're all made up.

While I'm here and not dead, here is a list of all the people that we know are not Masons:

Goddess Jasmine
Runcle
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Gilly
DavPaz
Mr Dom
Goddess Jasmine :S

It's not much, granted, but it's all we have.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Bobbyaro wrote:
@ Craster, that is normally true, but as the bad guys don't (most likely) know each other, then it has a little less weight than normal.
@APOD, How do you know this? I could understand if you had stated, "Trooper is a bad guy." But I can't imagine an investigative role which allows you to get the information you have stated.

Although our captor is an evil, psycopathic genius, he is shit at setting up a LAN. I sleep in a room which has a printer in it, and whenever he prints the summaries of day and night actions, it prints off in my room rather than in his control centre. I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.


...Interesting.

How much of a 'summary' do you get?

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:28 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.

You know I guessed incorrectly, right? And one of my mason chums guessed correctly?

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Grim... wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.

You know I guessed incorrectly, right? And one of my mason chums guessed correctly?

I only get numbers I'm afraid. However, I do also know that zero people were refused guesses.

There is one more piece of information from last night that I have, but it would help the bad guys to pass that on, so it will have to wait for now.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:34 
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Grim... wrote:
I saw a message overnight. It was written in charcoal and said "Trooper - he's a bad guy. I'm sure of it."
I'm pretty sure they're all made up.



Indeed, if they were true then that would make you a bad guy.

From posting that and from the list you have just provided, i'm inclined to believe you.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Trooper wrote:
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I saw a message overnight. It was written in charcoal and said "Trooper - he's a bad guy. I'm sure of it."
I'm pretty sure they're all made up.

Indeed, if they were true then that would make you a bad guy.

I said made up - they could still be true.

I mean, I know I'm not a bad guy, which is an advantage that not many people have (I assume).

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But I don't know anything about you. Is what I should have said without pausing.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:42 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Grim... wrote:
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I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.

You know I guessed incorrectly, right? And one of my mason chums guessed correctly?

I only get numbers I'm afraid. However, I do also know that zero people were refused guesses.

There is one more piece of information from last night that I have, but it would help the bad guys to pass that on, so it will have to wait for now.


Ok, well it appears that either you are lying or I am, and from the suspicion over the past couple of days I expect its going to be me for the chop.

I admit, I lied. Partly through a misreading of the rules, and partly because I got information that I didn't want to share with the group for obvious reasons.
If the one more piece of information is as I expect it is, then this should come as no surprise. I did have my role confirmed, I was correct in my guess that I am the doctor.

I'm probably the only protecting role the good guys have, but c'est la vie at least I can get one more protection done tonight (if the town wants me to) and I think apod has the best information gathering tool we have, so I will protect him tonight and almost certainly get myself killed in the process.


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:59 
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Trooper wrote:
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I woke up last night and the printout said that 6 people had guessed their roles incorrectly, 4 people correctly.

You know I guessed incorrectly, right? And one of my mason chums guessed correctly?

I only get numbers I'm afraid. However, I do also know that zero people were refused guesses.

There is one more piece of information from last night that I have, but it would help the bad guys to pass that on, so it will have to wait for now.


Ok, well it appears that either you are lying or I am, and from the suspicion over the past couple of days I expect its going to be me for the chop.

I admit, I lied. Partly through a misreading of the rules, and partly because I got information that I didn't want to share with the group for obvious reasons.
If the one more piece of information is as I expect it is, then this should come as no surprise. I did have my role confirmed, I was correct in my guess that I am the doctor.

I'm probably the only protecting role the good guys have, but c'est la vie at least I can get one more protection done tonight (if the town wants me to) and I think apod has the best information gathering tool we have, so I will protect him tonight and almost certainly get myself killed in the process.


you what now?


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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:00 
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I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.


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Trooper wrote:
I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.


Haha. And that's why he started the day by voting for you, right?

[vote:trooper]

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Have you used your protecting role to any effect so far?

(is the doctor a role-blocking role, can someone explain?)

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Mimi wrote:
(is the doctor a role-blocking role, can someone explain?)


It sometimes is. As we've had no role descriptions so far, I guess we don't know.

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 Post subject: Re: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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Craster wrote:
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I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.


Haha. And that's why he started the day by voting for you, right?

[vote:trooper]


Hah! Very true, so it obviously wasn't that!

Either way, the deed is done, I am the doctor.


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Craster wrote:
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I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.


Haha. And that's why he started the day by voting for you, right?

[vote:trooper]


Oh, very good spot! That's pretty damning!

[vote:trooper]

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Haha. And that's why he started the day by voting for you, right?

If APOD is a baddie, then yeah.

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Trooper wrote:
I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.

Nope. Indeed I have no evidence that there is a doctor (or more than one doctor), although I hope there is one. There is a hacker however, who could have a protective power, although that doesn't seem the case given the title.

Also, the one bit of information that I have I had concluded may help the bad guys would actually (upon thinking about it properly, duh) help the good guys more. This is that the Masons have found all of their friends, the Mafia haven't.


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Mimi wrote:
Have you used your protecting role to any effect so far?

(is the doctor a role-blocking role, can someone explain?)


Doubtful it has had any effect.

Targets so far (as already mentioned in previous days)
Night 1 : Myp
Night 2 : Craster
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I don't have any memory of anything from last night.

Trooper, you're sound well suss right now!

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This is that the Masons have found all of their friends

Have we? Oh, that's a shame.

On the first night, too :o

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Grim... wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
This is that the Masons have found all of their friends

Have we? Oh, that's a shame.

On the first night, too :o

Is that true? If so I can work out how many Mafia we have.


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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
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I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.

Nope. Indeed I have no evidence that there is a doctor (or more than one doctor), although I hope there is one. There is a hacker however, who could have a protective power, although that doesn't seem the case given the title.

Also, the one bit of information that I have I had concluded may help the bad guys would actually (upon thinking about it properly, duh) help the good guys more. This is that the Masons have found all of their friends, the Mafia haven't.


If you're getting all these numbers (data) and facts/figures, doesn't that make you the likely candidate for the hacker role?

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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
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I expected the information that APOD has was to do with who the doctor was.

Nope. Indeed I have no evidence that there is a doctor (or more than one doctor), although I hope there is one. There is a hacker however, who could have a protective power, although that doesn't seem the case given the title.

Also, the one bit of information that I have I had concluded may help the bad guys would actually (upon thinking about it properly, duh) help the good guys more. This is that the Masons have found all of their friends, the Mafia haven't.


Well, that explains your vote for me. I was hoping you could confirm that I was telling the truth, but I guess it comes down to trust now.

As I said before when I was almost lynched, on your own heads be it. The same obviously applies today.


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APOD if you have three nights of info now you're better to keep it secret and just lead us in suggesting a person to vote for, surely.

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Tonight I will protect whoever the town wants me to protect, at the moment I think that should be APOD. I will obviously be killed tonight regardless.


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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
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This is that the Masons have found all of their friends

Have we? Oh, that's a shame.

On the first night, too :o

Is that true? If so I can work out how many Mafia we have.

Well, yes.

Hang on and I'll confer with my buddies about whether or not we want to tell you.

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Oh wait - did you just want to know about the "first night" bit? Yes, it's true.

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APOD if you have three nights of info now you're better to keep it secret and just lead us in suggesting a person to vote for, surely.

See first post.

I've reinforced my view on this as Trooper has told us that he lied about the refused role verification because he was the Doctor. In that case, it seems like an unnecessary lie to spin and one that he could have avoided making. If he is a doctor, and that lie ultimately gets him lynched, then he was a bit of a dick.


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I did exactly the same thing.

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APOD if you have three nights of info now you're better to keep it secret and just lead us in suggesting a person to vote for, surely.

See first post.

I've reinforced my view on this as Trooper has told us that he lied about the refused role verification because he was the Doctor. In that case, it seems like an unnecessary lie to spin and one that he could have avoided making. If he is a doctor, and that lie ultimately gets him lynched, then he was a bit of a dick.


As mentioned, I misread the rules and thought it was just the first 5 guesses that would be confirmed or not. It was a simple statement to say that I was too late after that and hopefully not be questioned on my role.


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 Post subject: Amnesia Scum Day Four
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With everything with Grim.../Trooper on day three, and APoD/Trooper today, if Trooper is confirmed as good, then does that make the other two likely bad guys?

What Craster pointed out still seems quite damning, because Trooper was using APoD as back up, but yes, it's also possible that APoD is lying.

I think it's going to be another case of having to lynch one to try and unravel the story. Because of Trooper's continued involvement in ten confusing nature of the last two days, I'm going to stick with my vote for him if no further information comes out.

Unless we let the day run out before we get a lynch, of course :headdesk:

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Nah, I figure he's lying.

[vote: Trooper]

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I did exactly the same thing.


Exactly, it's hardly a smoking gun.


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I did exactly the same thing.


Exactly, it's hardly a smoking gun.

Well, I did it because I thought I might be a cultist (and I was wrong).

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You will note that there hasn't been a counter claim, and there won't be as I know my role and know the truth.


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