Be Excellent To Each Other

Put your money where your mouth is, Duds - is he scum?

I'm starting to think so, the main wondering was when he went for the least useful piece of information overnight.

If not, he's playing an appalling game for the town.

And now suddenly more sure.

Allow me to paraphrase.

<Comical> Let's vote for anyone! Anyone! Let's bandwagon.

<LaceSensor> Ok, Zaphod already has a lot of votes, let's bandwagon.

<Comical> Oh...er....*shuffle*.... anyone BUT him...<insert lame excuse why>.

So he want to lynch anyone, someone suggests a suspicious looking person who is pretty much known not to be an important townie and he immediately backs off. Again, either he's just played a really shit move or he's scum, and so is phod.

HAHA

Then straight back after "Should we lynch anyone" with.

<Comical> Always lynch, or we'll be here forever.

So "let's lynch anyone! ANYONE! (oh god I hope they've forgotten about Zaphod)" again.

And has now orchastrated a run on Jazzy.

If Jazzy is a townie, they're both scum or complete, complete idiots.

Comical's buddy awfully interested in a lynch too... strange since Comical wanted to lynch unless it was phod...

Yeah, they're scum.

Malc is flying the radar quite a bit, everyone seems to be ignoring him.

He at first didn't post much, got loads of votes then started posting back blaming real life. Accused CG of lying which gaywood then backs up. Then there was this post



Again trying to throw doubt, no one listens and he hasn't tried again. Also got gaywood there maybe trying to disassociate each other, dispite malc not reallly being suspious on the first day.

Oh. never mind, looks like they have noticed him now.

[edit] He doesn't really reason why they shouldn't roleclaim does he, only that it's suspicious. CG put a big clue in one of his first posts, talk went round to roleclaiming using the doctor's power to protect, copper wasn't going to come forward so he did instead. Don't see what is wrong with that.

[edit again] And why hasn't real life stopped him defending himself when suspicions only just got round to him. I guess it's easier to defend yourself before there is a stack of votes against you, I guess it's looks less suspicious that way.

[silly edit] But would mafia be so anti the standard town view. Oh, I don't know.

And their argument right now if fake is genius.

hmm, we've got what 3 or 4 goons? Malc, Comical, Zaphod is certainly a possible lineup.

That said,



/me waves.

He forgot to say "Except Zaphod of course" like he did last time.

Strange, you were awfully quick to back off when a vote for Zaphod would have all but ended it weren't you?

Oh look, they lynched a townie, there's a shock.

*looks back at first day to see who first suggested role claiming*

Oooo, it was zaphod.

But it is a very overly complex plan and entirely hinges on the chance that the there is no census taker or the census taker is wimp who won't come forward. I have trouble buying it when the mafia have a record of winning without these mad schemes.

Although CG being overly protective of zaphod is suspicious.

If they are both alive for day 3 then fishy levels will rise.

There's no point the real census taker coming forward until day 3. By which time he has all possible information that can help the town. If he came forward in competition with ComicalGnomes, com would almost certainly manage to win the shouting contest and the real one would get lynched.

On day 3 he can dump all useful knowledge and it won't matter too much if he somehow gets killed.

Or at least that's how I would have played it.

If they're not scum, ComicalGnome's massively dangerous defense of Phod is very weird.

Fuck.

Comical - why the fuck were you playing the "Lynch anyone! Anyone! Anyone at all" "Zardoz" "Er.. no not him" game then?

Idiot.

Then why the fuck did he go out of his way to protect Zaphod more than once?

Are you completely fucking stupid? Going out of my way to protect zaphod? I think I said ONCE 'I have no reason to suspect him', and backed that up by not voting for him. There was no bias at all in my not voting for him. Had the swing vote been going his way I'd have lynched him too.

So, in your stupid fucking face for disbelieving my role the whole time, and regardless of the retarded mumblings in here, knowing how many townies WAS the best way to go on Night 1.

I'm not playing another mafia game again, I think, the chokingly stupid actions of others are too much to bear.

As soon as that fucking cunt, Malc, dies I'm going to have some words to say to him. Before dying last night, I was roleblocked by the fucking hooker and since Malc was the only one ignorant enough to vote for me yesterday, I'm going to assume it was him.

So, ignoring for the moment I died, he essentially blocked my role and thus my usefulness to the town JUST SO he could satisfy his stupid fucking curiousity as to whether I was scum or not, which I wasn't.

I hope the SK kills everyone, cunts.

Oh, and +10 points to the ingeniously stupid fucking Doctor who obviously opted to protect Plissken. Hnnnng. COME ON. After both of us outing ourselves it was clear that the mafia would ASSUME you'd protected Plissken, which would have allowed you to actually protect me and thus cause their hit to fail. There mafia would never going to assume otherwise. I MEAN COME ON, ITS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS.

*brain embolysm*

Haha, post on your blog more plz.

I shall

The only credit I'll give here is too..... well, GazChap I think. I think he's the remaining mafioso. Purely because I recall him commenting on me saying that I liked Dexter, and if he's seen the show then he's killed me in the same manner as the victims therein, which I think is a nice touch. Either way, someone has been paying attention.

I like Dexter, too

If you made it up as the narrator, then you suck.

Oh, and obv. that'd make him the SK, not the mafia. But since a mafia goon was the other person to die, that's impossible too, so, a bit of a conflict there.

Whoever the SK is has quite possibly won the game for the town.

And meant I don't have to feel guilty for neglecting the game.

Would it count as a town win if the Sk did all the work?

Remember, there's no photographer, so both kills have to be SKish to avoid identification.

As an aside, this game is I think the best chance the town have ever had of an outright win.

You were pushing to lynch ANYONE, then suddenly backed off.

"We need to lynch anyone, ANYONE, we just need info"

"Zaphod"

"I don't know..."

Yuor recollection of reading static words on a page is well off. I had no reason to suspect but him similarly I wasn't going to change my vote from the current majority just because a couple of people voted for him.

And by recollection you do of course mean "Reading it live at the time and not remembering at all".

And you did so very well with suspecting me because I did the exact opposite of what got me lynched last time when I was also innocent (and who led that one....) and with lynching a goon the night Zaphod wasn't killed...oh wait.

To be fair, I steamrolled you into that one, because you wanted to kill ROBIN.

Malc is such a cunt. 'oooh maybe we don't have a hooker'. YEAH RIGHT, BITCH.

Did I say Malc? I meant Runcle. RUNCLE IS A CUNT.

Fucking Runcle, I'll do for him.

I gone done fucked up.

Thanks to GJ who added me to the dead list

And now i get the chance to post a message i wrote part way through day one as a bit of a rant :

"I obviously cant access the dead thread (yet) , however can you do me a favour and post this in there and lets see what reaction there is when I end up in there

"Why does anyone with a powerrole (town) feel the need to 'brag' about it by posting cryptic messages to say what they are ?

Do they think the baddies are not as clever as their team-mates and therefore cant deduce whats going on ?

In any game the baddies know who's posts to 'ignore' because they are their own , so they can concentrate more on which townies are being vocal.

I may be missing something obvious , but declaring yourself like this is *worse* than doing a straight roleclaim , with the roleclaim you are outing yourself , everyone knows and you can (possibly) be protected.

If you sublely hint at it (on day 1) then the chances are someone will pick up on it - but that could be a baddie and therefore your dead.

I've seen this played out in a number of previous games and really cant see the reasoning behind it.

So far for this game we have had 3 examples of this :

CG the CT
Plis the Cop
Myp the Photographer

All on day 1
If you are a power townie role why you want to suggest to anyone that you are ?

I would have thought the best plan is to blend in with the crowd for at least the first day or two until you actually have some evidence - i realise this makes you look a bit scumy but so what , you could roleclaim if you were going to be hanged and actually have some evidence !

Its also possible these are fake claims but again , why bother , and whats the advantage of being subtle about it ?

I'll probably take this up more when i make it to the other side but i'm genuinely interested in the answer :-)

Err.... what?!?

page 1 Runcle: I roleblocked the rev owen on the first day

page 2 Runcle: The rev owen is the serial kiler. Vote.

Can anyone spot the flawed logic displayed by Plisskin here?

Err - nope.

Consider that they can't tell who killed who, and there was only one death in the previous night phase.

Yep...But they know the SK killed last night, because they know there aren't any goons left...

Bah, it's a shit game anyway.

You're all cunts.

That is all. One day? One fucking day? Cunts.

So lets get this right :

Runcle - townie power role - after everything posted about being careful :

Night 1 - he blocks the Doc - that could have cost the town the whole game if either the SK or the mafia had targetted Plis
Night 2 - he blocks the Census taker - so even if CG did survive the town is still stuck.

It does look like the town is going to win this one but its much more by sheer luck than anything else :-(

I believed you were innocent (my first post on day 2) , simply because at that early stage the mafia were not going to 'gang up' on someone who wasnt getting enough votes for a lynch so after that i had both you and duds as townie (unfortunatly too late for Duds)

My memory of that was very much that CG could see i had the same agenda / ideas as he did for the town , and at the time we were both the ones pushing the town to do something and lynch someone.

At that point if i was the person the town was pointing at fine (as i said i didnt hold anything against bluecup but we *had* to lynch) all i could have done is post something about looking for patterns in the votes for the other dead people but that was it.

Rev is a cunt for not protecting me, for reasons previously discussed.

Runcle is a cunt for not believing me to be the CT, which I was. What kind of fucking moron purposefully blocks someone who has also claimed to be a townie in a useful role? Nobody had counter-claimed me, and if I was mafia, which I presume was the assumption, it'd be a giant fucking risk that nobody would counter-claim.

I mean COME ON. If I claim to be someone I'm not, and I'm challenged (which is more than likely), it only takes one lynch to discover the truth. It's not a long-term tactic for survival, so blocking me JUST TO BE SURE is idiotic.

I hate this town, the people are cunts. It's a shame they'll probably win, for I wish them all death.

Not that useful - you're a census taker that can't count...

Oh, for those paying attention it should have been very possible to work out on day 2 that Zaphod79 was 99% likely to not be a bad guy...

Is this the 'blackmail' option ?

Bloody idiots.

*mutters*

Sorry Jasmine - I have to say after Mr Dave's post I did suspect you and think if i'd still have been in the game would probably have voted for you :-(

Mr Dave is in deep doo doo!

If Joans is scum then he's a fucking genius.

The thing is, no-one spotted my hidden message that Mr Russ was a good townie either. All it would've taken was a quote.

As with the first game, I was just playing as a townie with people I didn't look at overly much - there was little point trying to manipulate at the early stage. The others will confirm that I was hardly active in the mafia discussion.