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Eh? He pointed at KevR, KevR was a vampire!
Either we praise him for this or lynch him on the basis that it's an elaborate double bluff.

Who could he point at today? You said he'd be safe for the rest of the game, but he's got no Childes left to point at.

I can, 100%, categorically, absolutely and truthfully assure you, I am NOT the serial killer nor a vampire of any flavour.

It was an awesome theory though, wasn't it?

Fuckit
[vote:Dimrill]

Sorry in advance"!

It seemed yesterday "if you're wrong we'll lynch you" and now today "you were right, let's lynch you".
WHO will repair your shoes once I'm gone? And why the frick do serial killers keep trying to frame my family?

What? He's *already done it*! He doesn't need to do it again, we should at this point be totally counting him out of the frame, because why would a vampire vote for another vampire!

Craster, what are you up to?

And everyone else, don't worry, I'll make you some fine chipboard soles for your shoes from now on, and if Dimrill turns out to be just a cobbler I'll eat them too.

When I'm gone, boys, you remember good ole Dimmers was a fingerin Craster and Mr Russ, eh? You know, Craster with the dried blood around his gob, and Mr Russ who Dudley the Vigilante fingered before he died as well. Promise you'll do that fellers? Fellers?!

This is just semantics. You said "He'll be safe for the rest of the game". If that was his plan, he'd just keep quiet. But no, he's already pointing the finger at someone else. If he's the sire, he can't possibly be pointing at another childe, because there aren't any left. So if we lynch who he says tonight, he'll be proved wrong, and hence look just as suspicious as before.

This is meaningless though. I'm just saying it would be a stupid play for the Sire.

As I wrote my post, I was trying to convince people you weren't the Sire, if there even is a Sire. Then it occured to me you could be the Serial Killer, and you wanted us to lynch KevR, who you seemed to know was a vampire.
The only way you could know, if you were the Serial Killer, was if you'd been recruited.

We should remember Rev Owens dying words though, he did leave his stake to Dimrill, and as Rev Owen was a priest, that suggests that Dimrill is also a member of Judas Priest or Van Halen.

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For Dimrill to have done everything I suggested, and for us to catch him and win the game like this would pretty much have to be VampireScum - the movie.
The truth is more likely that Dimrill is another priest and saw KevR, or he is Van Halen and saw KevR killing Malc74 on the first night?

Dr Gaywood, if Van Halen tries to protect someone that a Childe targets with a kill action, will he see who carried out the kill action?

I don't get this though. Dudley might have suspected Mr Russ, but didn't he tell us that he didn't do anything on the first night?

No, my dinner is actually just eating dinner. People tend to need to do that at this time of day.

But seriously, go back to day 3, and look through it now, knowing more of the roles. Look who responds to me and how... (Especially given that two of the main antagonists somehow happened to be vampires... odd that, really...)

Look who repeatedly responds negatively to KevR being fingered - Runcle. Absolutely no surprise he got hit.

I got the information out of yesterday that I wanted.

It's certainly bold but I wouldn't say stupid. I mean, it would have the merit of actually being a plan, for example. And it's sure as hell livened up what was a fairly dull game so far.

Dammit, my quoting went tits

Are you roleclaiming the SK?!

No. He can chose to die in their place, but he doesn't learn anything.

I understood it. I don't think we're actually argueing about anything, to be honest. In summary, I do not believe Dimrill is the Sire.

Yeah, it probably is too good to be true

No, no one is safe through the game, it wouldn't work, as a safe bet is likely to become one which isn't the moment people refuse to suspect them. However, it is too soon for that anyway.

Nnngh, I'm torn with which way to vote... Craster or Rodafowa....
*Sits on hands*

So the only way for Dimrill to have been absolutely sure that KevR was a vampire was if he was a priest, or if he'd been recruited by the Vampires (or was already a vampire, but that scenario doesn't make much sense)?

Hahaha! Of course you don't Craster! Do you, Craster? Craster with the blood and all that. You know, that Craster. Hahahaha! *wipes tear from eye with a metal key file* Oooooh lordy...

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It's been what we made of it. We're the ones that sat paralysed by indecision for 3 days.

Ah come on now, of course it was dull. Not from the setup, but from the players flippying floppying all over the shop and nolynching all the time. Come on now people, step up and kill me, Dave, Craster or Mr Russ. Don't be shy!

Hmm, dunno. We'll get off-track though if we keep this up. Can we please suspend all discussion/criticism of the ruleset until after the game?

(yeah, I know I was the one doing it)

Ta.

Aw sorry Dr G, I didn't mean it like that, more just in terms of the cautious plays in the first 2 days. It's definitely running well now anyway

Are you absolutely mad?!?

No, of course I'm not. I spent much of yesterday denying it. Hell, I spent much of yesterday trying to get myself killed. (I'm guessing that by now we can also confirm whether or not I'm the loon)

That is not the action of a serial killer, and my original reason still stands.

Hey, killing ME would sure lend some weight to these charges I'm hefting around, as the truth will out! I can assume that if Curio is the psychiatrist as he says, he did investigate me last night and was left a-wantin'. Just due to my "OMFG DO SOMETHING OR KILL ME NOW!" type posts. So that makes good ole Dimmers sane, right? RIGHT?>!!?

Er. Umm. Are you the.. ?

The other thing that puzzles me, is that if Dimrill isn't the SK/Sire, why didn't the Childe kill him last night after he orchestrated a lynch against one of their own. Surely that would have been enough to suggest he was a Priest, unless they already knew The Rev Owen was a priest and decided to take him out first.

Thanks to any Van Halens that may or may not have protected my beautiful ass last night, btw.

You said you got what you wanted out of yesterday, and implied that what you wanted was the information that Runcle was defending KevR. Runcle was then killed by the SK. Sounds reasonable to me.

Hey, if the Van Halen protects himself that night and the vampire comes for him, can he choose to die instead of himself for himself?

Good point, but obviously, nobody even tried to kill you. They killed The Rev Owen instead.

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I will still LOL from beyond the grave if my theory's correct though.

You are the loon then, right?

Can we also have a bite check from anyone who hasn't done one, please. We need to know if there's still a Sire.

I think what Dave may be referring to is that yesterday was so fucking boring until the KevR waggon arrived in town, so the prospect of another day with "nolynch" hanging over the town made him despair and want to end it. As did I!

I don't think we can afford another NoLynch, we have to try and get the Serial killer by tomorrow.

What's all this 2 days left business? Has the serial killer role changed since the FAQ Rulez OMG! on the main page? I can only find:

There's definitiely still a sire (if it's not Dimrill) because the childe who did for Rev Owen last night would have been promoted if there wasn't one.

So, definitely at least one vampire, including a Sire, whichever way you look at it, unless I've misunderstood something drastically.

His win condition is to get 5 deaths - he doesn't need to survive.

As you well know.

Two in one night, whoo! There must still be a sire, though - and Craster and Runcle agreed a lot in the early days. And while I can see the arguments for Dims being a bad guy (killing one of your own would be brave, but, as we can see, gets you some protection), let's see if Dimmers can make it 2 for 2.
[vote:craster]


Like m(y brother in another village - Ed) as the scientist - what if he roleblocked himself?

You're missing that the childe that did for Rev Owen could have been Runcle, and there may not have been a successful double bite.

Does that mean game over, though? Or is it a mini-win, like the psychiatrist?

As Dr Happyplank said in the first post, if the serial killer makes it to 5 kills, then it lessens the towns win as we'll have to share it with the serial killer (assuming the town can get the win).

Oh wait - you're right. He would have become the Sire when KevR died and been unable to kill.

Ah, fair enough.