Be Excellent To Each Other

No I meant the non-obvious similarities

Mainly because I think there is a serious risk of the role going to waste, or even worse being recruited by the Cult.

If the Cult recruit the Suicide Bomber, they will have the advantage of using the ability with the benefit of having shared knowledge.

'E means that CG was the Cult Leader.

He said they both were.

and I was reading hunch to be a euphamism for "using my powers"

Now either he has the ability to work out who's doing what (so he's the mimic or vigilante) or he's lying and he's mafia/cult/SK

If he's one of the first ones, I suspect he will die tonight (if he's not hanged today) if he doesn't die tonight then it's the latter.

Malc

You only get to be similar to me if you win two games in a row

Yeah, thanks Sherlock.

But that could be advantageous for the SB?

Malc

That's true - bit of a blunt tool, though, and if they get it wrong they lose a convert and a potential one; which would suggest that if the SB is recruited then they'll hold fire for a while, whereas as things get edgier (and the chances of hitting a bad guy increase) they're more likely to deploy if not converted.

Going to the cult I mean.

Malc

So why doesn't the Suicide Bomber put his hands up and get a free recruiting. Or has he already?

Again where - give me quotes.

Exactly, all he is going on is me defending myself, he admitted earlier than he was giving my cage a good rattle, I'm hardly going to sit here and whistle to myself as though I have something to hide.


Well I wish you'd tell me!

Exactly, based on him rattling my cage and me defending myself...

I don't think ANY role would survive the night if they "outed" themselves.

Malc

Unless you're implying that Malc is doing this, then it would be foolish for the SB, as you'd get probably all three of the kill functions offing him during the night!

Er, right you are. I did kind of think of that halfway through typing, but my fingers got ahead of my brain.

But with the Cult being so weak, they are more likely to be killed by Mafia first.

The Suicide Bomber is the only thing that potentially gives the Cult an offensive capability against the Mafia other than by influencing who gets lynched. So it's definitely in the Mafia's interest for him not to be used so they can kill him.

There could be an arguement for each side not bothering to off the suicide bomber though.
Anyway, things are getting a little tense. I'll be back later.

I'm still sticking with my GJ vote.

IMPORTANT RULE UPDATE

All of this suicide bomber talk has got me thinking about their role in the game and the possibilities for recruitment, etc.

Therefore, from this point onwards, I'm going to retroactively fiddle the rules so that:

1) If the mafia/sk/vigilante target the Suicide Bomber, they will explode and kill the mafia/sk/vigilante person carrying out the hit.
2) The cult cannot recruit the Suicide Bomber.

The advantage the Suicide Bomber would give to the Cult is certainly a compelling enough reason for the Mafia to want him out of the way.

Especially given the Mafia's current strong position.

KevR will you shut up about the suicide bomber or blow yerself up please.

That is quite a change. Sounds good, though - in that it gives the SB longer to ponder what they're doing. Makes them quite a weapon for the town, which evens the scores a bit, I think.

Wow.

The Suicide Bomber is now The Man.

Interesting rule update. Quite like it.

Keeps the Jihad on the side of the town, and makes sense.

Cool. That's tipped the balance a bit back in favour of Town.

Now I would say that the Suicide Bomber should definitely keep his bomb to himself unless he looks in imminent danger. He's certainly a lot more secure unless the SK gets lucky or the Vigilante slips up.

Just been reading back and mr russ and MaliA seem to be in cahoots, they both were voting for GJ near the start, MaliA started to get a few votes against him and russ unvoted GJ on the terms no one was following him.

Then he voted for MaliA as some kind of ploy to show they werent partners, and voted for him on the basis he hid bodies in his scarcrows which there isnt any real reason to actually suspct from what hes said.

Then later on MaliA said to think carefully about voting for him, he says people started voting for him when he accused GJ, straight away russ changes his vote back to GJ to influence people. sounds to me thats hes trying to say MaliA is speaking sense whilst still suspecting him to make a sense there not in it together.

But later on mr russ accuses malia and GJ working together and says to vote for GJ, even though MaliA had more votes, why? obvious, later on kalmar changes his vote to GJ aswell so it worked unless kalmar is in it to but im not sure.

In his last sentence in that post he also mentions JBR again which again I think was a deperate ploy to try and stop people voting for MaliA when he was so close to getting lynched. after this post MaliA says straight away that the rooms seems to have some sanity again backing up mr.russ's claims.

Theres too many direct agreements between them and only the cult and the mafia can talk to each other and Im sure they must be part of one of them. Im keeping my vote the same as it has the majority vote.

Why would you object to me wanting the Suicide Bomber to kill JBR?

According to you he is the Cult Leader.

Admitting there is now less urgency for them to be used.

So if I were to change my vote to MaliA you'd say I was making the sacrifice, yes?

Sorry, I was typing that before the rule update, and every psot you've made has mentioned the suicide bomber.

Sound logic. I was a vote for MaliA, but have held off. If it comes to the 1 more vote to decide, ill go back to him. For now there is some evidence that perhaps he is a good guy, hence me withdrawing.

You've broken character.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

If you changed it again Id say you were being desperate, also hes warning off the suicide bombing JBR, why? because he doesnt know what role he is and if the suicide bomber does do this and hes a townie, well thats bye bye mr russ.

It were aimed at Runcles deductive logic.

I've read this three times, and can only draw the conclusion that I'm the man in the middle, with the tempest about me.

<twirls hands and spins around whilst pointing at his own head>

Tempest. Me. See?

Oi didn't mean fer me post to sound loike I was warning KevR off suiciding and taking JBR with him. Just that I was fed up of him mentioning it all the time. Oi'm getting narky a bit.

The rule update makes sense I think. The SB is a man on the edge, it's unlikely the cult could sway them to another cause. Similarly I think they'd have enough awareness to blow themselves up if someone comes a-killin'.

What's the score already?

Still too high for me, I fear.

Hey, I want credit for 50% of this ruling.

Vote Update

malia: 6 votes (plissken, zardoz, goddess jasmine, gazchap, runcle, rodafowa)
goddess jasmine: 5 votes (jbr, malia, curiosity, mr russ, kalmar)
mr russ: 1 votes (sheepeh)

Not voted: lacesensor, joans, kevr, craster, spinglo sponglo!

You're all still divided and I can sleep well in the knowledge that the deadlock probably won't be broken tonight.

DENIED.

That's it, first thing tomorrow I'm on the phone to Viacom's lawyers, they'll sort me out.

in the interest of moving the story along, I'll restate my vote to MaliA.

I hope I'm wrong about you, and even so, your hint could just be a bluff.

[vote:MaliA]

If all the none voters vote, then either person could still swing.

to that end [vote:malia]

Malc

They'll probably just sue you for the unauthorised use of some common words.

If I was the Suicide Bomber, I'd be long gone!

one more vote, it seems.

Anyone got any compelling evidence before MaliA bites it? Or should we say gets put up before the Gov'ner.

Seriously, on what grounds?

Risky tactic time:

I am the SB. If you attack me tonight then you will die with me!

Malc