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 Post subject: Re: Day V
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 19:57 

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Anyone else just hoping Taxalot pops in and puts us out of our misery now?


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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I'm off to dinner now, so don't take my silence to mean anything it's not.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Grim... wrote:
Not really - I was roleblocking to try and find the SK (which I believe I've now done, and I'm not the only one by the look of things).


But earlier in the day you said that you would roleblock me tonight. This doesn't tally with the plan you say you've been executing now. The rest of what you're saying seems to sum to "I'm not a cultist, because", and "The cult will think I'm not really the scientist despite virtually conclusive evidence I am, because". That's not really even reasoning.


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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The following post assumes I believe everything Grim... says. This is probably not true.

I think he means he'd PM'd you for the in advance pick in case he wasn't around. Now he knows the SK, he'll just block them. He can always PM cras to change his pick.


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Can I just point out that regardless of who is or isn't the SK (and it really isn't me. I've no idea who it is - could even be Mr Angry Dudley for all I know), the scientist is the second best convert for the cult leader after the vigilante, and the vigilante's dead. And Grim... admitted to being the scientist on day 1 - if I were the cult leader I'd have recruited him that night. And grim... blocked dimmers, who clearly isn't the cult leader, but may well be a fellow cultist by now.

Grim...'s doing sterling work for his master, here.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Also just occurred on properly reading grim...'s posts in this thread - Grim has announced that he's going to keep blocking me if I'm still alive, more or less, as he reckons I'm the SK (which I'm still not, despite his and Dudley's accusations). Now, whilst he's doing that the cult leader is free to recruit whoever he likes. So if Grim... suspects Dimmers is the cult leader, as he says he does, why isn't he blocking the single biggest threat to the town then, eh?

Also - I'd forgotten how good a film The Matrix is. Shame about the sequels.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Also (and damn the lack of edits here, as that's what I usually do as my thoughts arrive slowly and in seperate packages) he's just given the REAL killer a cue to sit back and do nothing for a few nights to make me look guiltier, if I don't swing tonight.

So he's helping the cult directly, as he's not blocking them (so they'll grow stronger, which at this stage is the major threat) and helping the SK indirectly as he's safe from suspicion as Grim... is framing me.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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[VOTE:Mr Chris]

I think you are up to no good, sir. I agree that Grim... is quite possibly cult by now, but then again they may have left him alone as too obvious a target once he outed himself. On the other hand most things you have said since Grim... claimed to roleblock you the very first night we had no SK kill have sounded like a desperate flailings to distract everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 21:04 
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Silly, silly, silly.

Ho hum.

Await your conversion by the cultists, then.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Look - I'll come clean then, seeing as I'm about to swing. This may or may not change your minds, but I'm the mafia roleblocker.

I can't do anything to harm the townies, but can block the cult for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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You're lynched, Mr Chris.


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In which case the town have made their own culty-kool-aid bed and can lie in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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But ARE you? Ok, since you're lynched, chances are that you are, but frankly coming clean about it would have kept you alive much much longer.

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Gaywood - desperate flailings, or a sensible analysis? you'll find out when you get taken over by the scientologists...

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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But ARE you? Ok, since you're lynched, chances are that you are, but frankly coming clean about it would have kept you alive much much longer.

There's still time to unvote seeing as craster isn't here.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Look - I'll come clean then, seeing as I'm about to swing. This may or may not change your minds, but I'm the mafia roleblocker. I can't do anything to harm the townies, but can block the cult for you.
Oh come on. That sounds hella-desperate and you've made yourself a total SK target into the deal. You can't even keep your end of that promise; you can't block the cult's expansion unless you 100% know who the leader is and you can't know that because, even if you do roleblock the leader one turn, you won't know. Not like when someone roleblocks you and the next day there is no SK kill and it suggest you are the SK; with the cult leader, recruitment is a silent event. So you couldn't reliably block the cult anyway.

We don't even know there is a mafia roleblocker here!


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Mr Chris wrote:
ComicalGnomes wrote:
But ARE you? Ok, since you're lynched, chances are that you are, but frankly coming clean about it would have kept you alive much much longer.

There's still time to unvote seeing as craster isn't here.

Incorrect, all lynchings are final once a majority has been reached. The fact Craster hasn't arrived to lock the thread is immaterial, any other mod can (and should) lock it on his behalf in the meantime.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Look - I'll come clean then, seeing as I'm about to swing. This may or may not change your minds, but I'm the mafia roleblocker. I can't do anything to harm the townies, but can block the cult for you.
Oh come on. That sounds hella-desperate and you've made yourself a total SK target into the deal.


I'm going to die anyway, right?

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You can't even keep your end of that promise; you can't block the cult's expansion unless you 100% know who the leader is and you can't know that because, even if you do roleblock the leader one turn, you won't know.


I'm damn sure I know who at least some of the cultists are. Grim... is the most powerful one after cult leader Comical, for instance.

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Not like when someone roleblocks you and the next day there is no SK kill and it suggest you are the SK;
Or, y'know, someone roleblocked me and the SK happened to (sensibly) not kill anyone that night. As I said earlier - if I had been the SK I'd not have killed every night just becaus eo fthe roleblocker issue.

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with the cult leader, recruitment is a silent event. So you couldn't reliably block the cult anyway.

This is true. You'd just have to trust me. Assuming YOU are actually a townie, of course.

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We don't even know there is a mafia roleblocker here!


You do now. What you chose to do with that information is up to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Seeing as I've got nothing to lose - I roleblocked last night, too, by the way. I roleblocked Taxalot - I'm pretty sure he's the SK, and it's always the quiet ones, as comical has pointed out.

I could block him tonight to prove it, if you want. Alternatively, let's get a consensus on who our L Ron Hubbard is and I'll block them. That should assuage Mr Gaywood's apparnet issues.

I'm pretty sure everyone voting for me is a cultist, though.

Vegetables - not sure it is, is it? Stupid rule if so. Many's the chap in the films who's escaped death on the way to the gibbet.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Oooh, I've just got back from pilates and dropping the wife off to meet some friends and I find (as usual) that I'm waaaaaay behind on everything. A lot to try and take in.

I'm not sure I believe Mr Chris' pleadings - almost as if you're trying to wriggle out of something a little too much. But then, what if he is a roleblocker? Could/would he be of any help anyway?

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Oooh, I've just got back from pilates and dropping the wife off to meet some friends and I find (as usual) that I'm waaaaaay behind on everything. A lot to try and take in.

I'm not sure I believe Mr Chris' pleadings - almost as if you're trying to wriggle out of something a little too much. But then, what if he is a roleblocker? Could/would he be of any help anyway?

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Seeing as I've got nothing to lose - I roleblocked last night, too, by the way. I roleblocked Taxalot - I'm pretty sure he's the SK, and it's always the quiet ones, as comical has pointed out.


Or maybe I have no power? Maybe I didn't use a night power? Would I be around even more if I did have exciting powazzz?

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Seeing as I've got nothing to lose - I roleblocked last night, too, by the way. I roleblocked Taxalot - I'm pretty sure he's the SK, and it's always the quiet ones, as comical has pointed out.


Or maybe I have no power? Maybe I didn't use a night power? Would I be around even more if I did have exciting powazzz?


Given that the quiet players have, so far in this game and throughout the last game, avoided being lynched or killed, it'd be a bloody sensible course of action for the SK.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Well Chris, before you die, if Grim is lying about roleblocking you, and you being the SK, the only way the SK could have not killed was for YOU to block him. So who is it? I flat out refuse to believe the SK wouldn't choose to kill.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Comical - see a few posts up mate!

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Must read thread before posting. Who have you blocked in the past then, Chris? Time to tell all before the giblet.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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Fuck off! I'm not giving you shit loads of info for free if you then just string me up anyway. It also tells the cultists exactly what I know. I'd be pissed off enough just having the SK knowing who I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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and what I know, obv.

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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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But you just said Taxalot is the SK? If there are no mafia left, what's the difference? It would only help the town who you purportedly said you'd help if they kept you alive, just a few posts ago.

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ComicalGnomes wrote:
But you just said Taxalot is the SK? If there are no mafia left, what's the difference? It would only help the town who you purportedly said you'd help if they kept you alive, just a few posts ago.


Yes, I'm fine with taxalot knowing I know he's the SK as you lot think I am. I'm not, however, telling you what I may or may not know about cultists if you're just going to kill me.

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You sound bitter, gibblet-man ;)

Ok, vote is done in any case, no more natter natter til tomorrow.

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Well, if you could be wrong about things, why not spill anyway?

It looks like it'll only lead to more confusion and puzzlement anyway.

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Nowhere in the rules does it say that the townsfolk can't change their minds.

And comical - given that you're the cult leader I'd not expect you to want me to help out the villagers.

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And comical - given that you're the cult leader I'd not expect you to want me to help out the villagers.

That's because you're wrong matie.

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And comical - given that you're the cult leader I'd not expect you to want me to help out the villagers.

That's because you're wrong matie.

Which is exactly what the cult leader would say, of course. Yawners.

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Can someone please stop this dead man flailing? ;)

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I'm not, however, telling you what I may or may not know about cultists if you're just going to kill me.
How can the roleblocker have figured out anything about the cultists?


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I'm not, however, telling you what I may or may not know about cultists if you're just going to kill me.
How can the roleblocker have figured out anything about the cultists?

By being a smidge analytical and clever, of course. It's not just about who gets blocked, but who then says what to whom. who votes for whom and who does or doesn't die.

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Can someone please stop this dead man flailing? ;)

Yawn.

You'll win, but it's only because the villagers are acting like cretins.

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Final Vote Update

grim...: 3 votes (vegetables, gazchap, mr chris)
mr chris: 7 votes (comicalgnomes, sir taxalot, dimrill, dudley, grim..., jbr, richardgaywood)

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Despite valiently argueing his corner, Mr Chris ends up with the villagers against him, and stares his death in the face. He smiles slightly at the irony. He is taken to the tall cliff face at the outskirts of the village (running out of ways to lynch people, here) and held at the edge of the precipice. "You fools, " he snarles as they push him to the edge, "I wasn't done. MY WORK WASN'T DOOOOOOONNNNE". A satisfying crunch announces his end. The villagers run to his house to confirm their suspicions (why does no-one ever check the house before killing people? You lot are nutters). Inside they find a gruesome collection. Body parts, tools, surgical implements, and torture paraphernalia.

Mr Chris was the Serial Killer.

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