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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 18:54 
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Mr Chris wrote:

and id expect you to back up grim, under the circumstances

The circumstances that make you look a lot like the SK?

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Both him and Mr Chris are blates scum, but Grim is blates cult, which is more risky right now. His choices over the last two nights are simply too convenient for me to believe him.


If it helps, you're tonights choice :)

I'm just going through people I 'know' (except for Sheepeh, but I thought he might kill me).


If you're roleblocking lots of different people, why have the deaths stopped? It seems at least possible you're the one responsible for that.


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bringing someone back to life is random, so I could bring a goon back

If you brought a goon back to life, would we actually be told about it? Surely if you brought a goon back to life he'd just be lynched that day?

Never thought about that, TBH. Would we be told about it?

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It's aa random ability - i knew it was on his list, just couldnt remember if he'd used it.

Nah, Craster stopped it being random after the first night.

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Even if Mr Chris is the SK, to my mind the cult is a far bigger threat to the townies than the SK at the moment.


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Well say the doctor was brought back, the SK and mafia would be after them, but the scientist would protect. It might be interesting. Even if the mafia is lynched, the mafia effectively gain a free day without one of their previous member getting stretched.

It doesn't seem to have happened and Grim... doesn't look likely to try it seems.


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Both him and Mr Chris are blates scum, but Grim is blates cult, which is more risky right now. His choices over the last two nights are simply too convenient for me to believe him.


If it helps, you're tonights choice :)

I'm just going through people I 'know' (except for Sheepeh, but I thought he might kill me).


If you're roleblocking lots of different people, why have the deaths stopped? It seems at least possible you're the one responsible for that.


Not sure I understand, mate. How do you mean?

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It's aa random ability - i knew it was on his list, just couldnt remember if he'd used it.

Nah, Craster stopped it being random after the first night.

I meant it was random to start with - as a scientist, if you press button "1" you don't know what's going to happen until it does.

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Well say the doctor was brought back, the SK and mafia would be after them, but the scientist would protect.

That would involve me knowing what my protect button was. And my ressurect button, come to that.

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Cor, this thread's moving fast right now.
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Looking down on the town, eh? From a high-up position? LIKE CULT LEADER?


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 Post subject: Re: Day V
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It's aa random ability - i knew it was on his list, just couldnt remember if he'd used it.

Nah, Craster stopped it being random after the first night.

I meant it was random to start with - as a scientist, if you press button "1" you don't know what's going to happen until it does.

Oh right, yeah.
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3: Roleblock
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5: Unknown
6: Unknown

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and id expect you to back up grim, under the circumstances

The circumstances that make you look a lot like the SK?

ha ha. the circumstances under which yu the cult leader are trying to protect your most valuale cultist.

you may genuiely believe im the sk, but given that currently the sk is the biggest threat to the cult leader, id expect you and your minions to be after him. it's just more evidence against you and grim...

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Well Grim... can't be the cult leader, but he could be a cultist. Given the choice between a cult pawn and someone who might kill me overnight, I think I'll vote for who I think is the SK. Unless I see some interesting evidence to sway my vote, I'm sticking with it.

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Looking down on the town, eh? From a high-up position? LIKE CULT LEADER?


Or Prince! Have we got one of those?

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Vote Update

grim...: 4 votes (vegetables, gazchap, mr chris, richardgaywood)
mr chris: 5 votes (comicalgnomes, dimrill, dudley, grim..., jbr)

Not voted: sir taxalot

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Looking down on the town, eh? From a high-up position? LIKE CULT LEADER?


Or Prince! Have we got one of those?

Shit, yes we have. I forgot about him.


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Not voted: sir taxalot

Shocker.

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Not voted: sir taxalot

Shocker.

Oh, he was on 'yesterday'!
And he hung Sheppeh :(

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Taxalot -- whether you're a townie or the mafia roleblocker, you want the cultists, gone, mate. And that means voting for grim the minion or comical the cult leader.

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Looking down on the town, eh? From a high-up position? LIKE CULT LEADER?


Or Prince! Have we got one of those?

Shit, yes we have. I forgot about him.


But I like to watch! How can I be either of those things?

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Taxalot -- whether you're a townie or the mafia roleblocker, you want the cultists, gone, mate. And that means voting for grim the minion or comical the cult leader.

That post deduces you as the SK, with the rest of what you say frantic flailing.

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Taxalot -- whether you're a townie or the mafia roleblocker, you want the cultists, gone, mate. And that means voting for grim the minion or comical the cult leader.

That post deduces you as the SK, with the rest of what you say frantic flailing.

No, it deduces me as someone pointing out that I'm being accused of being the SK, not anything else. Which I'm not, but I'm pointing out that even if he thinks I am the SK, you and your cultists are a bigger threat to him than me, whatever he is.

You sound like someone who's been outed, mate.

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Mr Chris wrote:
Taxalot -- whether you're a townie or the mafia roleblocker, you want the cultists, gone, mate. And that means voting for grim the minion or comical the cult leader.

I don't think he can be mafia, can he? If he has a night action, then the nights he was away would have ended at their 'end' time.

[thinks]
How many did that?

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Taxalot -- whether you're a townie or the mafia roleblocker, you want the cultists, gone, mate. And that means voting for grim the minion or comical the cult leader.

That post deduces you as the SK, with the rest of what you say frantic flailing.

No, it deduces me as someone pointing out that I'm being accused of being the SK, not anything else. Which I'm not, but I'm pointing out that even if he thinks I am the SK, you and your cultists are a bigger threat to him than me, whatever he is.

You sound like someone who's been outed, mate.

You sound outed, mate. For all we know the Cultists only have one member (the leader).

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You sound like someone who's been outed, mate.

Keep flailing, Mr SK.

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Shit, the prince. That'll lose us the game for near certs. That makes offing the cult an even bigger priority; we should focus on them. Which is frustrating, as it's beyond obvious that Mr. Chris is a scum.


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Hang on a fucking second, if you (Chris) think Comical is the Cult Leader, why the fuck are you voting for me? Is it because, with my roleblock ability, I can stop you from killing people?
Or maybe even recruiting people?

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This is exciting, I don't think we've ever had such a split vote before. Of course, neither of the votees could be evil and the SK, Cult, and Mafia are all laughing themselves silly.

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You sound outed, mate. For all we know the Cultists only have one member (the leader).


CrapLogic. This is a possibility, but an extremely unlikely one. The Cultists almost certainly will have three members by now, and probably have at least four. It's massively unlikely they've failed to recruit consistantly, especially when there's a large number of quasi-confirmed townies with hugely powerful roles about.


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Mr Chris is the bloody cult leader. If he's not, I'll fuck this here black and white cat!

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It might be worth pointing out that if Taxalot shows and votes for grim... we'll run out a 5-5 impass till noon unless someone switches.


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Hang em both I say, we're allowed a twofer right?


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Hang em both I say, we're allowed a twofer right?


Nope. No 6 votes, no lynch.

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Dudley wrote:
It might be worth pointing out that if Taxalot shows and votes for grim... we'll run out a 5-5 impass till noon unless someone switches.


Shouldn't it be 5 to lynch if that's the case?


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bah you're no fun at all.

/me goes off to sulk.


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Hang on a fucking second, if you (Chris) think Comical is the Cult Leader, why the fuck are you voting for me? Is it because, with my roleblock ability, I can stop you from killing people?
Or maybe even recruiting people?

because youre a cultist and noone else is voting for comical, obviously. I'd be an idiot given im so close to being hung to split the vote whilst theres a chance of me, an innocent, not dying, and getting you, a baddy, to swing into the bargain.

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vegetables wrote:
Dudley wrote:
It might be worth pointing out that if Taxalot shows and votes for grim... we'll run out a 5-5 impass till noon unless someone switches.


Shouldn't it be 5 to lynch if that's the case?


Given you didn't vote for the guy on 5, seems a weird question, you could solve it all by voting for chris.


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Dudley wrote:
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Dudley wrote:
It might be worth pointing out that if Taxalot shows and votes for grim... we'll run out a 5-5 impass till noon unless someone switches.


Shouldn't it be 5 to lynch if that's the case?


Given you didn't vote for the guy on 5, seems a weird question, you could solve it all by voting for chris.


I could, but then I'd lose the game to the cult, so I'm not about to be doing that. Because I don't think Chris is Cult, and hence he's actually sort of an asset to the town right now, at least far more so than Grim.


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Hang on a fucking second! I'm not even in the cult, let alone the fucking cult leader.

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Hang on a fucking second! I'm not even in the cult, let alone the fucking cult leader.


I don't think you are the Cult Leader, but I do think you're probably in the cult. You big Mr Lie.


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That's very nearly what his wife calls him.


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"Probably"? If you're wrong, us townies are fucked. Obviously I can't prove to you that I'm not (although I do have a threory for why I'm not, but I'd be fucked tonight if I told you - damn the lack of townie PMs).

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"Probably"? If you're wrong, us townies are fucked. Obviously I can't prove to you that I'm not (although I do have a threory for why I'm not, but I'd be fucked tonight if I told you - damn the lack of townie PMs).


But we're arguably even more fucked if we kill the serial killer, or even a mafiate- it's got to the stage where every single non-cult role will either be attempting to screw the cult over or get into the cult themselves. I'm not convinced MC is cult.


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Only if the Cult is as big as you suspect.
Here's what I think: Dimrill is the cult leader. He would have, as everybody said, tried to get me on night 1, but I roleblocked him and it didn't work. He'd have only been told "you can't recruit Grim..." so may have assumed I was the SK or the Mafia and not tried again.
I will roleblock him tonight as well, but I suspect I will end up shot by a certain lawyer.

Either way, don't lynch me, because we're fucked if you do.

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Only if the Cult is as big as you suspect.


Rather only if everyone thinks the cult is as big as I suspect, which probabilisticly it's quite likely to be. I don't think the cult would think you were lying about your role, either, given you claimed you roleblocked him really quite early on, and nobody's counterclaimed your scientist role since day 1, and in fact you quoted a mod conversation in the other thread discussing your role. The cult will not think you are lying about your role if they have a brain.


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Also. I don't see how it's consistant to simultaneously say that the cult isn't a threat and that we're fucked if we lynch you. If you are telling the truth about your roleblocking, you intend to roleblock random people for some time. I don't see how that makes you more valuable than any other townie- if anything, it could make you less valuable, since it looks like all kills are currently being blocked anyway and you won't know if you've hit the Cult Leader. In fact it seems from what you're saying that you think you know who the CL is, but you haven't targeted him since Day 1. That style of play makes no sense- it looks like a fabricated story rather than the play a player would actually take.


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Granted - but if you were the culty boss, would you risk your one shot that night? I could be the Mafia roleblocker for all they know.

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But they - the cult - have several brains. Either the leader acts on his own, which means he's almost as in the dark as the rest of us, or it could be similar to the massed but varying suspicions on here. I doubt they feel any more clued up than the rest of us - or won't until they know they've won, in any case, which does (I agree with you here) seem fairly likely at the mo.


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Also. I don't see how it's consistant to simultaneously say that the cult isn't a threat and that we're fucked if we lynch you.

I've never said they weren't a threat - I'm just saying that it's possible that, right now, they're not. But threat or not, killing of a non-cultist on a hunch isn't really going to help.

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If you are telling the truth about your roleblocking, you intend to roleblock random people for some time.

Not really - I was roleblocking to try and find the SK (which I believe I've now done, and I'm not the only one by the look of things).

I'd also like to note that I thought my SK hunt was quite clever, and it sucks that half of you don't want to do anything about it now I've found him.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

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