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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 16:27 
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Are there dates, too? Some of those times have a later start then end, suggesting they've rolled over midnight

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 16:44 
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Oh, that's not such a hardship. Just do an if to see if one is bigger than the other and take the evening start hour away from the morning end hour plus 24.

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 18:16 
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Except it could be 8 days later, there's no way to tell

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 19:34 
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I've just actually realised what Bobby is fuckering on about. Those time slots aren't the start and end times, they're rates. So if you work three hours between 7pm and 7am, the rate is X. I'll have another look when all the Zeds have been dealt with.

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 21:03 
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Yes, there are three time slots, in the list, these assign a cost/hour to any work done. The work done can span these time slots and needs to be divided accordingly. So if I start work at 16:50 and finish at 17:20 I have 10 minutes at rate 1 and 20 at rate 2.

It is unlikely they would span more than 3 shifts, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Why are there two rows for 22:00 to 7:59:59?


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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We'll, that's the next step, that is the weekend rate! Ignore that for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:20 
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Elegant this is not.
Assuming the stuff you posted on the previous page is in cells ("A1:C3"), put your start and end times in D1 and E1, then put this monstrosity into E1 and copy down for each shift range (i.e. Rows 1-3). This should give you the total rate for each range (I assumed it was an hourly rate, and rounded to the nearest 15 minutes).
=(ROUND(MINUTE(IF((IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))<0, ((IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))+1)-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1))), (IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))))/15, 0)/4*C1)+(HOUR(IF((IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))<0, ((IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))+1)-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1))), (IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))))*C1)


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:24 
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Actually, ignore that, it doesn't work if you span multiple shifts and days, 14.30 - 17.30 works, 23.00 - 5.00 works, but 21.00 - 05.00 doesn't.

Does this have to be done in Excel?


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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I'd be thinking something other than excel would be preferable for this. Or VBA sitting behind excel would certainly do it. I think maybe one approach would be to split the time you worked into 30-minute chunks, and for each chunk check which bracket it's in and apply (half) the appropriate rate.

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Would this work?

Create a static table, start and end times along x and y, and fill in the calculated values. Then use index() and match () to look up from the table.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Wouldn't you spend about the next 15 years working out what all the calculated values would need to be to fill in the table?

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Yeah even VBA would be helpful, however I work with what I've got. So, try this...

=(ROUND(MINUTE((IF((IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1))))<0, ((IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))+1)-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))), (IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))))))/15, 0)/4*C1)+(HOUR((IF((IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1))))<0, ((IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))+1)-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))), (IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(AND(D$1>B1, E$1<A1, D$1<E$1), 0, IF(OR(AND(E$1<B1, F$1>C1, C1<B1, E$1<F$1), AND(E$1>B1, F$1<C1, C1>B1, E$1<F$1)), 0, IF(D$1<E$1, IF(E$1>B1, B1, E$1), IF(D$1<B1, B1, E$1))))))-(IF(AND(A1<B1, D$1>B1), 0, IF(OR(AND(D$1<A1, E$1>B1, B1<A1, D$1<E$1), AND(D$1>A1, E$1<B1, B1>A1, D$1<E$1)), 0, IF(D$1>A1, D$1, A1)))))))*C1)


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:48 
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Cras wrote:
Wouldn't you spend about the next 15 years working out what all the calculated values would need to be to fill in the table?

I'm sure a formula could be worked out to do most of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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And people say Perl is unreadable.

In fairness it's because I had about 7 calculated fields, which I combined into one user-friendly formula. If I did it all separately it wouldn't be that bad, but where's the fun in that?


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Wow! Joans, am of work today, week try it tomorrow, but seriously, thanks for the effort!

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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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It still doesn't quite work, sorry, something like 21:00 - 09:00 sends it a bit funny.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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Right, final attempt:

=((ROUND(MINUTE((IF((IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1)))<0, ((IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))+1)-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1))), (IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1))))))/15, 0)/4)*C1)+(HOUR((IF((IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1)))<0, ((IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))+1)-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1))), (IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1),AND(A1>B1,D$1<E$1,D$1<B1,E$1>B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<B1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, B1<E$1)),B1,IF(OR(AND(A1<B1,D$1<E$1,E$1>A1,E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, E$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, E$1>A1)),E$1)))-(IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<A1, E$1>A1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, E$1>A1, E$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1<A1)), A1, IF(OR(AND(A1<B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1, D$1<B1), AND(A1>B1, D$1>E$1, D$1>A1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1<B1), AND(A1<B1, D$1>E$1, A1<D$1, B1>D$1), AND(A1>B1, D$1<E$1, D$1>A1)), D$1))))))*C1)


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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I could spend ages doing this through various if statements, but I wondered if there were a more elegant way.


The elegant way seems to be to get Joans to come up with all the IF statements :)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 16:29 
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I'm pretty sure that's Inception in an Excel Formula. In the middle of all those nested IF statements time is moving incredibly slowly.

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I did say it wasn't elegant.


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 Post subject: Re: Excel help
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