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Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Mon Oct 06, 2014 20:00 ]
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Despite with knowing what was coming (broadly) from seeing the car after, that was met with a full scale FUCK.

Author:  myp [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 15:28 ]
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Hamilton has won 9 races to Rosberg's 4 so far. If he loses on the double points finale it will be a bit disappointing.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 15:46 ]
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That race was still as hell. The track looked quite interesting, too. Never mind.

Author:  myp [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 15:50 ]
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Grim... wrote:
That race was still as hell. The track looked quite interesting, too. Never mind.

Same happened with India.

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 15:53 ]
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The first few laps were great, and then I got bored and made fudge.

Author:  myp [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 15:54 ]
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Trooper wrote:
The first few laps were great, and then I got bored and made fudge.

You could have watched on the iPad from the bathroom.

Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Oct 12, 2014 16:00 ]
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Yeah, but boring that one. As much as I want Lewis to win, I'm no more excited by him leading unchallenged for 50 laps than I was when Vettel was doing it.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 21:59 ]
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:D Jenson "You sure I should come in? You sure? Sure this time?"

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 14:11 ]
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Marussia has shut down, and it's employees made redundant :(

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 14:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Marussia has shut down, and it's employees made redundant :(

Sad, but inevitable.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:52 ]
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Last race! Exciting!

Shame about Red Bull, but it should make things more interesting.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 13:20 ]
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"Red Bull gives you wings, so I got a new one."

Lulz

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 14:52 ]
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Go German Engineering!

Author:  myp [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 15:38 ]
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After Rosberg purposefully blocked Hamilton's quali lap in Monaco and crashed into him on purpose at Spa, this is all he deserves.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 15:52 ]
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Boo!

Author:  myp [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 16:04 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Boo!

Racist.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 16:09 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I think Hamilton should do as he's damned well told. He won't win anyway, which is something.


You were saying?

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 16:09 ]
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American Nervoso wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Boo!

Racist.

Hamilton is the racist.

He won eleven of them this year.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Nov 23, 2014 20:29 ]
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I get it!

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:25 ]
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Jenson keeps his seat at McLaren. Yay!

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:27 ]
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It'll be interesting to see how his and Alonso's performance compares next year.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:28 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Jenson keeps his seat at McLaren. Yay!

Shame for Magnussen really.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:28 ]
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markg wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how his and Alonso's performance compares next year.

He will get destroyed. Alonso has shown time and again he can wring performance out of a mediocre car - Button needs everything to be just right to get the most of out his talent.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:34 ]
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I think that's a bit harsh on Button. He always performs well, but never gets the recognition he deserves. He destroyed Magnussen last season, yet he was going to be overlooked for him.

I do agree that he will struggle in comparison to Alonso though, Alonso is the best driver on the grid in my opinion.

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:36 ]
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I think that Alonso will be quicker. If not straight away then probably as the season goes on but I don't think the difference will be embarrassing.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:57 ]
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It's been a long time since Jenson has been out-performed over the course of a season by a teammate, so it's going to be interesting.

Trooper wrote:
Alonso is the best driver on the grid in my opinion.

And has been for some time.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 13:49 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I think that's a bit harsh on Button. He always performs well, but never gets the recognition he deserves. He destroyed Magnussen last season, yet he was going to be overlooked for him.

Although if you don't manage to significantly outperform the guy who has barely any F1 miles after 13 or so years experience...

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 13:52 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's been a long time since Jenson has been out-performed over the course of a season by a teammate, so it's going to be interesting.

Did you not watch 2012? The results may have been skewed by numerous retirements from the lead by his teammate, but the difference was pretty clear, particularly in the mid season.

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 13:55 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I think that's a bit harsh on Button. He always performs well, but never gets the recognition he deserves. He destroyed Magnussen last season, yet he was going to be overlooked for him.

Although if you don't manage to significantly outperform the guy who has barely any F1 miles after 13 or so years experience...
If that's how it worked the oldest guys would usually be the quickest.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 13:55 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's been a long time since Jenson has been out-performed over the course of a season by a teammate, so it's going to be interesting.

LOL WHUT

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 13:58 ]
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markg wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I think that's a bit harsh on Button. He always performs well, but never gets the recognition he deserves. He destroyed Magnussen last season, yet he was going to be overlooked for him.

Although if you don't manage to significantly outperform the guy who has barely any F1 miles after 13 or so years experience...
If that's how it worked the oldest guys would usually be the quickest.

There is a much bigger difference between a drivers level between his first and second year than any point later. Particularly now they get approximately sod all testing prior to the first race.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:28 ]
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American Nativity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It's been a long time since Jenson has been out-performed over the course of a season by a teammate, so it's going to be interesting.

LOL WHUT

Going by championship points, I believe that's correct.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:34 ]
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Grim... wrote:
American Nativity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It's been a long time since Jenson has been out-performed over the course of a season by a teammate, so it's going to be interesting.

LOL WHUT

Going by championship points, I believe that's correct.

2012:
Lewis Hamilton - 190
Jenson Button - 188
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Formula_One_season

2010:
Lewis Hamilton - 240
Jenson Button - 214
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Formula_One_season

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:44 ]
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I think his performance there relative to Hamilton shows that he's a pretty top notch driver. Two points over a season in 2010. He's certainly not some sort of bum who is going to get "destroyed" by Alonso anyway. Looking forward to seeing what'll happen, though. Because although the Ferrari was a bit shit this year I still didn't see much from Alonso that reminded me why everyone reckons he's the best.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:44 ]
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Sky F1 are clearly a bunch of liars.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:50 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Sky F1 are clearly a bunch of liars.

In terms of total points over the three seasons, it is the case.

However, it's also only looking at the figures rather than the whole story. Like saying Damon Hill was better than Senna as he massively outscored him while they were teammates.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:52 ]
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markg wrote:
I think his performance there relative to Hamilton shows that he's a pretty top notch driver.

Hamilton had five retirements to Button's two that year.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:57 ]
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American Nativity wrote:
markg wrote:
I think his performance there relative to Hamilton shows that he's a pretty top notch driver.

Hamilton had five retirements to Button's two that year.

No reason not to take luck into account when picking your drivers.

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 14:58 ]
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Also not crashing into the other cars is a pretty key skill for an F1 driver.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:01 ]
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Grim... wrote:
No reason not to take luck into account when picking your drivers.

Top trolling. :D

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:02 ]
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I'd really like Button to win the championship next year, as he seems like a nice guy and nice guys should get rewarded.

It'll never happen, but it would be nice.

Author:  myp [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:04 ]
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markg wrote:
Also not crashing into the other cars is a pretty key skill for an F1 driver.

Still got two points more from three fewer finishes. Denotes a better driver to me. Especially considering Grosjean and Rosberg caused two of the incidents...

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:05 ]
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I wouldn't say that Hamilton isn't a better driver. I just reckon that Button is pretty good and probably deserves his place ahead of Magnussen.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:06 ]
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American Nativity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
No reason not to take luck into account when picking your drivers.

Top trolling. :D

There's not. Some drivers are consistently unlucky, and that shit's not ignored.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:17 ]
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markg wrote:
I wouldn't say that Hamilton isn't a better driver. I just reckon that Button is pretty good and probably deserves his place ahead of Magnussen.

If forced to choose between the two would you have given Heidfeld the drive over Kubica in 2008 given Heidfeld massively outscored his (effectively) rookie team mate in 2007?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 15:25 ]
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It depends on your plans for the future, I guess - if you think you're in with a good shot of winning the next season, you keep the guys who are proved to be good. If you think your season is a few years away, you keep the talented rookies, like Red Bull did.

[edit]Although I realise Red Bull are a special case.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 16:47 ]
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I'm sure all the teams also plan several years in advance, looking at who else is likely to be up for grabs in the 2016, 17, 18 seasons and so on.

They'll know what drivers will be out of contract and who's looking promising in lower formulas that they might want to snap up.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Dec 11, 2014 20:39 ]
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markg wrote:
Also not crashing into the other cars is a pretty key skill for an F1 driver.
Unless you're Schumacher.

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