I suppose economics play a part, its no doubt expensive to host a trial and then if he gets jailed that costs money to keep him in there.
Why bother with any of that when you can get a huge fine from billionaire law breakers and everyone wins
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 14:52 ] |
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Intention, I guess. |
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| Author: | asfish [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 14:58 ] |
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I suppose economics play a part, its no doubt expensive to host a trial and then if he gets jailed that costs money to keep him in there. Why bother with any of that when you can get a huge fine from billionaire law breakers and everyone wins
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 14:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Surprised there were no posts for the last race where Rosberg decided to wipe Hamilton out. Anyway, some great driving in Italy at the moment. Hamilton recovering from a terrible start to lead, great racing from Perez and a storming series of moves from Ricciardo. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 15:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Yeah, Rosberg took the Schumacher inspiration a bit too far, there. I read he has been fined some 6-digit amount, but he hasn't been penalised points-wise in any way so as far as he is concerned, he got away with it. Anyways, according to my quick calculations, if Hamilton stays on form he will only need 3 races to catch up with Rosberg so it's still very open. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 15:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I think your calculations are wrong - assuming Rosberg continues to come second, Hamilton has to win every race remaining. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 16:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
1st place gets 25 points and 2nd gets 18. So every time Hamilton wins and Rosberg gets second, Hamilton catches up by 7 points. Rosberg now has 238 points and Hamilton has 216, so that's a difference of 22 points. In 3 races Hamilton would have gained 21 points on Rosberg. What am I doing wrong? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 16:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Clearly Damon is a dick that can't count (I think it was him that said it). That'll teach me to regurgitate what I hear on TV. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 17:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Actually, under the same assumption that Rosberg will always be second if Hamilton wins (or vice versa), he would still need to win 5 out of the 6 remaining races to end up on top, so he really does have to be the fastest for the remainder of the season or have a bit of luck come his way. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 18:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
And forget the Rainbow Road race at the end is worth double points! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 20:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Which is still a stupid idea. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 20:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Oh, er. Now I'm confused. |
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| Author: | romanista [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 20:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I hate the rainbow road. And this idea |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Sep 09, 2014 14:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Schumacher has left hospital to return home, apparently. Considering the amount of care he could afford, that doesn't mean he's better. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29130742 |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
No more driving advice for drivers allowed from Singapore onward. Allowed - Telling a driver when he is allowed to or meant to stop for new tyres - Team orders in terms of overtaking or letting a team-mate past - Warning a driver about the traffic situation during qualifying and the race - Safety warning relating to yellow flags or dangerous situations on the track Not allowed - Informing a driver to change any settings on his car to improve its performance - Informing a driver about his fuel consumption and how to manage his pace - Informing a driver about his own performance in sectors and where he can improve - Informing a driver about the condition or state of his tyres - Informing a driver how best to approach the formation lap or setting changes to make better start |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Interesting, and I don't disagree with any of those banned topics in principle. However, teams will just update the steering wheel to show more data I'm sure. However I wish they'd stop fucking around midseason when there is no apparent singificant mischief happening. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I think that would still come under the "communication" heading. I don't think it's a problem at all. They seem to be desperate to make it to an individual sport rather than a team one. Maybe next year the driver will have to hop out and change his own tyres. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I like it! I'd actually ban all radio communications completely once the driver is out there. Pit boards are ok. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I foresee problems, given quite how much the car is designed round those kinds of capabilities. It's the sort of change that should be done between seasons, not in the middle of one. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I'd imagine that a steering wheel display showing data generated by the car would be OK. If there's a bounceback to base to process the data first that would be an issue. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
What about weather conditions? |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 16:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
lasermink wrote: What about weather conditions? Cloudy at the mo. Shouldn't rain though. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Ban pit crews. Just give a driver a car and a trailer at the start of the season and let him get on with it. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
American Nervoso wrote: lasermink wrote: What about weather conditions? Cloudy at the mo. Shouldn't rain though. Best to be prepared for any eventuality. Attachment: 5861407731_4e73a2c759_z.jpg
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Trooper wrote: Ban pit crews. Just give a driver a car and a trailer at the start of the season and let him get on with it. Fuck the trailer. They have to drive their own car between races with all the spares in a roofbox |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Trooper wrote: Ban pit crews. Just give a driver a car and a trailer at the start of the season and let him get on with it. Fuck the trailer. They have to drive their own car between races with all the spares in a roofbox And they have to build the fucking car |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
And they have to manufacture the raw materials using a smelt and a kiln. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 17:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
And make the car move only by running with their feet through the floor. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Sep 12, 2014 18:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
WILMAAAAAAAA Sorry, channelled Ian Paisley there. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
From formula1.com: Quote: Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has informed the teams that they must refrain from making pit-to-car radio transmissions relating to the performance of the car or driver. The move follows recent media scrutiny about the amount of information being given to drivers by their race engineers, particularly in terms of how they can gain lap time. F1 race director Charlie Whiting underlined the fact that Article 20.1 of the sporting regulations - which states that "the driver must drive the car alone and unaided" - must be respected at all times. “No radio conversation from pit to driver may include any information that is related to the performance of the car or driver,” Whiting wrote. “We should also remind you that data transmission from pit to car is specifically prohibited by Article 8.5.2 of the F1 Technical Regulations.” The directive will be enforced from next week’s race in Singapore, round 14 of the 2014 FIA Formula One World Championship. My emphasis. Which I guess means that they couldn't just show this stuff on the steering wheel display as has been suggested. It also suggests that there hasn't actually been any change in the rules, merely clarification of interpretation. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
The first formula E race is on itv4 at the moment. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Well, that was pretty awful, up until the last 10 seconds, which was shocking. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
It looked like he'd hit the barrier head first. Not pleasant viewing. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Trooper wrote: Well, that was pretty awful, up until the last 10 seconds, which was shocking. Pun. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 15:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Fanboost. Really? |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sat Sep 13, 2014 16:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Apart from that, though, and the slightly silly pitstops, I thought it was all rather good as auto racing goes, certainly no worse than Formula 1. What a ridiculous move by Nico Prost at the end, he sure didn't look very proud about it either. The whole race is on YouTube for anyone interested in watching it. I am already looking forward to the next one. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I thought it was utter bobbins. Far too uniform*. Too slow, Wank music, The rather unsporting idea of fanboost, dull circuit, rather stupidly thought out pitstops (Aside from the entire car changeover thing, the fact that they were timed over the entire pitlane rather than the time in garage can obviously lead to shenanigans - get out quickly to block and then go slowly - completely negating the safety aspect). Oh, and obviously unsafe curbs and drivers who just don't seem to be good enough to make it to F1 despite their famous name. * - Uniform acceleration, uniform breaking, uniform handling etc etc. Didn't really add anything to the feeling that anything could happen. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Sep 14, 2014 14:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
What Dave said. I also have a horrible feeling that the rubbish track was chosen specifically because the cars don't go that fast. Put them on a real race track and they're going to look really slow. I think they'd be much better off with a pair of sprint races rather than one long one where they have to swap cars, which is properly absurd. Also I'm surprised they didn't give them boatloads of mechanical grip so they wouldn't need so much downforce, thus allowing them to go a bit quicker. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 16:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Some backpedalling from FIA re. radio messages. (formula1.com) |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 20:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Messages not permitted (by radio or pit board) - Driving lines on the circuit. - Contact with kerbs. - Car set up parameters for specific corners. - Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver. - Speeds in corners compared to another driver. - Gear selection compared with another driver. - Gear selection in general. - Braking points. - Rate of braking compared to another driver. - Rate of braking or application of brakes in general. - Car stability under braking. - Throttle application compared to another driver. - Throttle application in general. - Use of DRS compared with another driver. - Use of any overtake button. - Driving technique in general. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 20:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Grim... wrote: Messages not permitted (by radio or pit board) - Driving lines on the circuit. - Contact with kerbs. - Car set up parameters for specific corners. - Comparative or absolute sector time detail of another driver. - Speeds in corners compared to another driver. - Gear selection compared with another driver. - Gear selection in general. - Braking points. - Rate of braking compared to another driver. - Rate of braking or application of brakes in general. - Car stability under braking. - Throttle application compared to another driver. - Throttle application in general. - Use of DRS compared with another driver. - Use of any overtake button. - Driving technique in general. Which is pretty much what the ban should've been in the first place. Drivers aren't engineers and the cars aren't designed for them to be as such. Moreso given the way that getting it wrong can impact multiple races. I find it utterly unsurprising that the sports foremost senile old dolt was behind it all. |
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| Author: | MrChris [ Fri Sep 19, 2014 21:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Grim... wrote: - Use of any overtake button. A fair few drivers clearly never found that button... |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
So Hamilton was just reminded that he has new brakes. Isn't that against these new regulations? Or do they only apply during the race? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sat Sep 20, 2014 15:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Sky commentators thought it was. Shame about the end of qualifying. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Shiiiiiiiit. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Guardian says Bianchi has a serious rash. Attachment: rash.JPG
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
You know it's not good when you don't get to see what happened. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Grim... wrote: You know it's not good when you don't get to see what happened. Is it on the telly? They're probably not replaying the crash until they know what the situation is. I remember when Senna crashed and all the replays and speculation around that, they were taking the twitch of his head that was visible to be a good sign that he was alive, but it turned out that was a spasm and he was already dead. (IIRC he suffered three separate massive injuries, any one of which would have been fatal.) |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
I was on early this morning. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 13:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Yeah, not looking good at all. They took him to hospital in the ambulance rather than the helicopter, which is not a good sign. |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 13:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 F1 2014 |
Apparently the lack of helicopter was because it couldn't fly in the storm. I'm not sure there were any TV shots from the copter in the race either. |
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