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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 13:22 ]
Post subject:  Formula 1 F1 2014

Here's the first picture of a 2014 car:

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I fear the nose will look horrible from the front.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 13:26 ]
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And by the second race we'll have forgotten what last year's cars looked like. This happens every time they change the shape.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 13:57 ]
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It looks pretty similar to me, what are the main differences?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:01 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
And by the second race we'll have forgotten what last year's cars looked like. This happens every time they change the shape.

Like I said last time, people still think the "new" cars are ugly - and that was what - 2009?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:03 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Here's the first picture of a 2014 car:

Image

I fear the nose will look horrible from the front.

It probably looks reasonable, but will never be raced.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:04 ]
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Grim... wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
And by the second race we'll have forgotten what last year's cars looked like. This happens every time they change the shape.

Like I said last time, people still think the "new" cars are ugly - and that was what - 2009?
I think they're some nice-looking machines, some of the cars from bygone eras were right munters.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:07 ]
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markg wrote:
It looks pretty similar to me, what are the main differences?

The nose is the big visual difference between this and last season, but the engine is so different they're not calling them "engines" any more, they are "power units", which consist of a blown V6 engine (rather than the NA V8 last year), a Kenetic "Motor Generator Unit" (MGU) which is like the old KERS system, and a Heat MGU which collects heat energy from the exhaust gases and converts it into electricity via a turbine, which it can store or it can use it to wind up the turbocharger and reduce lag.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:07 ]
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markg wrote:
Grim... wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
And by the second race we'll have forgotten what last year's cars looked like. This happens every time they change the shape.

Like I said last time, people still think the "new" cars are ugly - and that was what - 2009?
I think they're some nice-looking machines, some of the cars from bygone eras were right munters.

The "current" long thin ones aren't as nice as the previous generation "fatties", IMO. You're quite right they're better looking than some of the old ones, though.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:11 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
It looks pretty similar to me, what are the main differences?

The nose is the big visual difference between this and last season, but the engine is so different they're not calling them "engines" any more, they are "power units", which consist of a blown V6 engine (rather than the NA V8 last year), a Kenetic "Motor Generator Unit" (MGU) which is like the old KERS system, and a Heat MGU which collects heat energy from the exhaust gases and converts it into electricity via a turbine, which it can store or it can use it to wind up the turbocharger and reduce lag.

That all sounds incredibly complicated, I thought they were trying to make it cheaper? Or do all the teams just buy these systems rather than develop them individually?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:21 ]
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Engines are bought from either Ferrari (Ferrari, Sauber & Marussia), Mercades (Merc, Mclaren, Force India and Williams) or Renault (everyone else, I think).

Author:  markg [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 14:55 ]
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Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out this season, hopefully it'll remain at least a little bit unpredictable for a while. I can see my interest waning a bit if Vettel wins in Australia though.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 15:26 ]
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Honda are back as an engine supplier aren't they?

Fake edit: nope, next year.

Author:  myp [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 15:49 ]
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markg wrote:
Grim... wrote:
British Nervoso wrote:
And by the second race we'll have forgotten what last year's cars looked like. This happens every time they change the shape.

Like I said last time, people still think the "new" cars are ugly - and that was what - 2009?
I think they're some nice-looking machines, some of the cars from bygone eras were right munters.

:this:

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 15:54 ]
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The very early 2009 cars were pig ugly. Most notably the BMW which was by far the earliest seen. They did improve though.

Author:  lasermink [ Wed Jan 22, 2014 16:48 ]
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I originally started watching in 1992, and they were pretty awesome looking back then IMO:

Attachment:
senna_1992.jpg

Author:  gospvg [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:05 ]
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Attachment:
williams.jpg


Hate the front nose 'penis' style look.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:15 ]
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You have a strange penis.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:20 ]
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Cras wrote:
You have a strange penis.


Yep no balls

Author:  gospvg [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:21 ]
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Also the stupid 'double point' rule for the last race is going ahead :facepalm:

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 16:23 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Also the stupid 'double point' rule for the last race is going ahead :facepalm:


Yeah, that's kind of crazy, though if it means they have a race on Rainbow Road then I applaud the innovative move.

Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 18:49 ]
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That looks lovely, big improvement.

The powerplant tech is glorious 'n'all.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 19:07 ]
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Who cares how the cars look? Krazy Kobayashi is back!

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Jan 23, 2014 22:29 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Who cares how the cars look? Krazy Kobayashi is back!


Certainly a highlight.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Jan 24, 2014 15:40 ]
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Egads, that's ugly.

Author:  myp [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:33 ]
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You think this year's cars look bad?

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/142839.html

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It looks like a smurf car!

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:54 ]
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British Nervoso wrote:
You think this year's cars look bad?

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/142839.html


Boy, that article needs a proof reader.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:58 ]
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Here's the front of the car that's going to win all the time:
Image

I thought there were rules about having all the fins and stuff on the front wing? Or is that coming in later?

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:00 ]
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The front wing is less wide, but as far as I'm aware, nothing else has changed.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:03 ]
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It seems to make cock all difference when they get knocked off anyway.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:04 ]
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Twitter wrote:
Ted Kravitz
Kimi's Ferrari stopped on first lap. McLaren not run, nor anyone else. Lewis 3 laps. Welcome to the new F1..


:S

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Twitter wrote:
Ted Kravitz
Kimi's Ferrari stopped on first lap. McLaren not run, nor anyone else. Lewis 3 laps. Welcome to the new F1..


:S


Tactical decisions? Planned quick tests? Or are the cars broken and didn't even last a few laps.

If the latter, it might make the season interesting at least if the cars start breaking again. One thing that I miss is the prospect of mechanical failure. The cars are too reliable these days :D

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:19 ]
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No, it's broken - there was also a picture of one on a truck.

Author:  krazywookie [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:24 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Twitter wrote:
Ted Kravitz
Kimi's Ferrari stopped on first lap. McLaren not run, nor anyone else. Lewis 3 laps. Welcome to the new F1..


:S


Tactical decisions? Planned quick tests? Or are the cars broken and didn't even last a few laps.

If the latter, it might make the season interesting at least if the cars start breaking again. One thing that I miss is the prospect of mechanical failure. The cars are too reliable these days :D


They should totally standardise and limit the tools the pit crew have to a set of open ended spanners, a flat screw driver with half the tip broken off and a claw hammer.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:27 ]
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Make sure the screwdriver is missing half the handle too, and the spanners are Imperial.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 13:47 ]
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I know I'm going on about this, but look at the nose on these things!

Image

Image

(The photographer's website is at http://www.darrenheath.com/season/2014/ ... ge-gallery )


This is Jenson's helmet:

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I can't decide if the Smurf is meant to look like his dad, or I'm just imagining it does.

Author:  myp [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 13:59 ]
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I think he used to call his dad Papa Smurf.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 14:00 ]
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I think you're just imagining it - more because it looks nothing like his father than any smurf knowledge.

I think most of the noses need censoring, the only one that osn't vile is the Merc. The lotus wouldn'tbe too bad were it symettrical.

For now, anyway.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 14:05 ]
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The Ferrari one is vaguely catfish-esque.

Author:  markg [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 14:09 ]
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It was putting me in mind of an anteater.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 14:16 ]
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markg wrote:
It was putting me in mind of an anteater.

Image
I see what you mean.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 23:07 ]
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Grim... Is developing a real peen obsession, isnt he?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 14:02 ]
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Image
Williams Williams Martini is white this year.

Author:  markg [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 14:09 ]
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Ooh, yeah. Like that. Does it have a penis for a nose like some of the others though?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 14:10 ]
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Probably.

Author:  markg [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 14:13 ]
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Ah well, love those colours though. Really evocative of old scalextric cars. They just need to bring back John Player Special and Rothmans and we'd be all set.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Mar 06, 2014 14:46 ]
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Oooh, that's nice.

Author:  markg [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:39 ]
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Seems like it's really not looking good for Schumacher, sadly:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... e-him.html

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 18:25 ]
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Am I allowed to express morbid amusement at his management team denying any kind of problem?

"Michael is fine, he told me himself yesterday.

These experts, what do they know anyway really?

Oh, and Micahel he also said I should get a new minimum-12-year contract and totes a payrise as well! NUH-UH I'm telling the truth you big meanies!"

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 16:06 ]
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So, the Australian GP was pretty good, I thought. I still think the cars look ugly (the McLaren is the worst, I think) and they sound like any other racing car now, but it is nice to hear the tyres being caned and the turbos and all that.

Shame for Daniel Ricciardo, though, But McLaren 2nd and 3rd whoo!

Author:  markg [ Mon Mar 17, 2014 16:25 ]
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Yeah, they need to get some better microphones or turn it up or something. Half the time on the trackside shots you couldn't even hear them. It was certainly interesting though. Good to see new drivers coming through and things just generally getting shaken up a bit. The Williams would surely have been on the podium if he hadn't nudged the wall.

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