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 Post subject: Hearthstone thread
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 0:45 
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For discussion about Blizzard's CCG game Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft which finally came out of Beta and was launched for Microsoft Windows and OS X in March 2014.

The iPad version was released in April 2014 and the Android and iOS versions are due in the second half of 2014.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta Test key - free to some lucky person
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:49 
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I've been keeping an eye on this and have reasonable hopes it'll turn out to be a decent game. Certainly being Blizzard it should be polished to a fine shine if nothing else, although Diablo 3 and to a lesser extent Starcraft 2 have knocked my faith in them a bit (the Zerg campaign for SC2 picked it up very nicely though).

Thanks for the offer of the key but TBH I just don't do betas at all (I've never ventured into WoW's PTR realms for example), I like to spend my time playing a game that's finished! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta Test key - free to some lucky person
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:06 
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Fair enough.

I could have posted this on Reddit or the Hearthstone forums and it would have quite literally been snapped up within 30 seconds, but thought I'd give someone else a chance instead.

Seems no-one is interested though so I'll offer it up elsewhere.

Offer withdrawn. No worries. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta Test key - free to some lucky person
PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:11 
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A lot of people don't visit the forum at the weekend, plus you put it up late at night on a Saturday before withdrawing it ten hours later. :shrug:


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta Test key - free to some lucky person
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 16:36 
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As there isn't another thread, I might as well hijack this one to discuss the game.

I got a beta key last week, and have ploughed many hours into this since. If you've watched any YT videos of people playing it, it's pretty much that. I don't do WoW, or card games, but find this one fascinating. Lots of nice strategising to get synergies and a variety of tactics against different players. Some things seem absurdly over-powered and yet in the main most classes can defeat any other depending on the skill of the player.

The only thing I refuse to do is cough up real life money for packs and arena games. I can grind out gold for that, and at least initially there's a lot of grinding to be done to get every character up to at least Level 10 to acquire all of the basic cards for each class. Legendaries and above come from card packs either bought or won as prizes in the arena.

I've only done one Arena run so far, and came out of it 3/3, which I thought was pretty fair for a first spin. In one fairly impressive casual game, I lost magnificently to a player that used a card combo to get a minion up to 27 attack damage. I was dead anyway, but it was quite impressive to behold.

So yeah, Hearthstone. Fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta Test key - free to some lucky person
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 17:47 
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Yeah, it can be fun but it can also be extremely frustrating - partly this is down to the 'in the works' matchmaking, but also my incompetence as a player. :)

I probably win about half of the games that I play as I've always been really lousy at strategy.

I've uninstalled the game twice in the past week out of sheer frustration, but for some reason I then re-install it a couple of days later. :)

BTW, have changed the thread title - this can now be about general Hearthstone chat (no doubt it will liven up a tad when the game eventually goes into Open Beta - maybe January???).

Meanwhile, best site for info seems to be hearthpwn.com - it also has a forum which I would recommend instead of the official forum (which mainly appears to be inhabited with people who have the same emotional development as your average 12 year old).


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 18:10 
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I really like it, and I don't mind losing. Sometimes I get defeated from a top-decking card draw, but equally I sometimes win for the same reason. I think I'm pulling at least a 75% win rate at the moment, so I feel about as smart as you can playing a card game. Arena is a bit more hardcore though. I had a priest down to 1 heath for at least 3 turns but I just couldn't get anything out to hit him, and he ended up killing me.

The official forum when I briefly looked at it didn't impress me. There have been authentication problems this week, and it was literally 3 pages of new threads of everyone saying 'Can't login!!11'. Why they were all so incapable of contributing to one of the many other threads on the same subject probably demonstrates why some matches in this game are laughably easy.

Cheers for changing the title :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
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For the first few weeks I really liked it too, even though I lost most games. I guess I now expect more of my gameplaying abilities (or lack of) so get more frustrated when I lose a few games in a row.

The authentication problems with Blizzard's Euro servers on Sunday and Monday created a whole lot of petulant outcries from the wailing masses - I don't know how Blizzard put up with such childish behaviour from so many people. I'd ban the lot of them, but I guess that Blizzard then wouldn't have any customers. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 0:15 
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Looks like it's just you and me playing this then Mr Candles.

My tag is Druss#2204 if you'd like to have a match up some time. My major weakness is that none of my characters have any legendaries because a) I'm too much of a tightarse to buy decks with real money, and 2) I haven't played enough Arena to win packs/get excess cards/create from dust.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 16:26 
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Been playing since yesterday. This thing is like a drug.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Closed Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 18:52 
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I'll be all over this once it comes out of beta, although everything I've read about it thusfar does make it sound very tasty indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Just changed the thread title to reflect the fact that Hearthstone has gone into Open Beta. :)

As for the game, I stopped playing about 2 weeks ago - not because my skill level sucked (I got up to level 13, which isn't bad) but because I just got bored with playing against the same decks/strategies time and time and time again. Let's hope that the developers can soon introduce far more variety into the game as a whole and also encourage more variable decks and play styles.

Oh yes, and the dev's seeming inability to fix game-breaking bugs (which have existed for months) also ticked me off (I mainly refer to 'dancing' minions, floating minions and overlapping cards in your hand, as well as random video corruption when you ALT-TAB).

Meanwhile, here's some interesting info about some planned changes:

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/viewm ... pic_id=756


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 20:34 
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Installing now :)

My battletag for WoW is Trooper#2226, I assume this uses the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:34 
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Man, i'm getting destroyed all the time, even by the AI. Not sure what i'm doing wrong, i'm usually ok at these type of games and I can only play the cards I get dealt!

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Ah, it seems playing as a mage to start with wasn't the best idea, as it's a pretty shitty class if you don't have any good cards! Won a few games playing as a warrior instead.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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The mage got mega-nerfed recently as well, apparently. (Story was at Eurogamer.)

I'm still resisting the urge to play a beta though!

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Since swapping to literally any other character (I've played as a warlock, hunter, warrior and paladin now) i've now won the last 8 matches on the trot! :D

This is bloody great.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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I think it's the Warlock which is overpowered. I play with him, and it seems most people also do.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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I suspect the open beta will be when they'll really start to get to grips with the balancing, and knowing Blizzard it'll probably need a lot of balancing.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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I cracked and downloaded the beta - it's a bit bloody good isn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Indeed it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Goodness me how much fun is this! :D

What do they say? 'Easy to learn but difficult to master'......

I've unlocked all the classes now (mostly through practice matches with the AI but a couple through real matches), although my score at the moment is pretty woeful when it comes to the real matches. (Lost five and won two IIRC.)

I'm sticking with the mage even though I know she's supposed to be a bit rubbish, did have a go with a custom deck but that went all kinds of wrong so I'm back on the basic deck albeit with all the basic cards unlocked.

A perfectly charming little game and absolutely perfect for 10-15 bursts and fits wonderfully around evening family commitments. (The AI waits indefinitely but against a real opponent you do have a time limit, but the matches are so short that's no problem either.)

The satisfaction of stacking up a total smackdown on an opponent in a final flurry of carnage is immensely satisfying. (But also stings when you get on the wrong end of one......)

Free to play for those thinking of having a punt, and I haven't felt the need to spend a penny yet. Going off the various reviews of where it's at for the moment, you get a good 15-20 hours of gameplay before you're properly nudged towards starting to buy cards, as the game gifts them fairly generously early on - which is my experience thusfar certainly.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Nowadays i just grind for gold to play in the Arena. For me that's the most fun part of the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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Well it's still very early days for me, doubtless there'll be plenty of chance for fatigue to set in later on :)

I've finally managed to get at least a couple of the regular Battlefield crew to install the game and give it a try, one of whom is INSANELY COMPETITIVE, once he gets his arse handed to him on a plate in his first game against a human being, he'll be hooked.

I remember duelling him outside Stormwind in WoW back in the day, and my hunter wiped the floor with his warlock time and time again, to the extent that he felt it necessary to go away and become a PvP master, just so he could beat me.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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I think I've moved up a tier behind the scenes since I won a few matches, and now I'm properly getting my arse handed to me on a plate TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

Determined to make this fucking mage work though.

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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I spent £1.99 on two packs of cards.

You do get a legendary for making a purchase during the beta though!

It is faintly ridiculous that I'm sat in front of a seriously capable gaming PC, and I'm using it to play a card game with.....

Who cares though, it's fun!

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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
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The game is just incredibly good. They managed to cut the chaff of Magic the Gathering that didn't belong on a videogame environment and made an incredibly slick and addictive experience without sacrificing too much depth.

Since Hearthstone came out i hardly play MTG online.


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 Post subject: Re: Hearthstone Open Beta thread (title changed)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 14:09 
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I've kept up playing this on-and-off since my earlier posts.

If you're playing constructed, you will eventually get invisibly tiered up. In the early days I was chuckling at the ease at which I beat everyone, and now I'm lucky if I can win 50% of games. Sometimes I'll have a massive loss of runs because of the BULLSHIT cards the opponent draws, specifically the exact bastard things needed to beat me.

But if you don't have the card packs, you don't have any hope of winning Casual or Ranked play really. There are too many strategies involving rares or character-specific cards that even the best, most carefully-played generic deck won't be able to beat 90% of the time. The Shaman is absolutely and utterly fucking useless until you've unlocked several of his basic removal and area of effect cards.

So, for cards you either buy them for 100g or win them in the Arena. On balance I think Arena play is better, as wins are down to your skill (and the balance of your Arena draw) and if you can at least get a 2/3 or a 3/3 run, chances are you'll get enough from the reward to justify it over just buying packs.

I haven't spent a penny of real money and must have bought 20 or 30 packs with just gold by now. Even now I rarely have to disenchant anything as I still don't have most of the basic or character-specific stuff.

My favourite play is typically a Priest. I can turn a 1/7 taunt into a 28/28 with just 5 mana. If the opponent isn't expecting it they're dead-diddly-ed.

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