ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
Sometimes I don't know where you get your ideas from. Nobody is saying, or has ever said 'NERF SHREDDER NOW'. I feel like a couple of bad experiences on the receiving end colour your view.
If anything TGT nerfed it with some highly variable 2-drops. Darnassus Aspirant losing you a mana crystal? Huge potential tempo loss. If silenced it's a poor value 4/3. Ultimate it's a card like any other, and is a bit of a random pick if you aren't playing a mech deck. If you're just popping it into your decks automatically then your deck isn't very specialised, and possibly just not very good. I don't know of any decks, even mech ones, where the Shredder was a fundamental card.
The overall verdict on TGT for Shredder was that it stayed about the same, with outliers like Aspirant going into the same category as Doomsayer - i.e. it's so rare that it doesn't affect the card. (One of the top players (Reynad?) has said it's basically a 5-mana card for 4-mana.) I wouldn't go that far but it certainly needs to be a 4/2 IMO.
It won't go into most specialised decks (although Trump felt it was a worthy inclusion in Oil Rogue to give it some board presence), but in any sort of minion-tussling deck, it's a choice you won't go far wrong with. (Just check out the deck lists on Icy Veins and see how much it turns up.)
The issue I have with it is that's a rather boring, ubiquitous card, capable of horrible RNG swings, but whose fundamental stats makes it a very tempting inclusion in a large number of decks. On average it's a 6/5 for 4 mana, which is big numbers for small mana.
IIRC in his pre-TGT previews Trump dropped Shredder to a 4/2, that seems right to me.
EDIT - If you look at Sludge Belcher that seems right to me, it's a Senjin and a Goldshire Footman in one card, with the mana cost added together to give 5.
Quote:
Like you though I'm mostly flipping quests. Over 1k gold, can't be arsed to do much with it.
Save it for the next expansion? If they follow the same routine as they have thus far it'll be a Naxx/Blackrock style thing so will take a big wedge of gold to unlock all the wings.
I'm buying a few TGT packs every time I get to a few hundred gold, getting a dreadful run on epics though (not seeing many at all), and Wrynn was the only legendary I've had for ages.
Would quite like a Ysera for Dragon Priest, and I believe I need those epic ones that get taunt if you have a dragon in hand. But outside of Tavern Brawl I'm not getting any classic packs so I might have to bite the bullet on 1600 dust for Ysera.
Dragon Priest is a remarkably 'clean' Priest deck in that it doesn't do much in the way of trickery and thievery.