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Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 13:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If torrenting is effort, I think you're doing it wrong.


:this: Do a search, click a link, wait for download to complete, done. The amount of effort you could possibly save over that process is measured in seconds and I don't believe anyone is that busy.

yes, much less effort than sitting of the sofa, pressing the ps3 button on the remote, pressing Netflix, pressing up/down/left/right a couple of time and 'ok'.

All of which I'd have to do in addition to the steps you gave.

The legality thing is a minor issue.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
BikNorton wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If torrenting is effort, I think you're doing it wrong.


:this: Do a search, click a link, wait for download to complete, done. The amount of effort you could possibly save over that process is measured in seconds and I don't believe anyone is that busy.

yes, much less effort than sitting of the sofa, pressing the ps3 button on the remote, pressing Netflix, pressing up/down/left/right a couple of time and 'ok'.

In June 2014 ;)
Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Or now, if C4 wasn't shit.
Author:  Bamba [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
BikNorton wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
If torrenting is effort, I think you're doing it wrong.


:this: Do a search, click a link, wait for download to complete, done. The amount of effort you could possibly save over that process is measured in seconds and I don't believe anyone is that busy.

yes, much less effort than sitting of the sofa, pressing the ps3 button on the remote, pressing Netflix, pressing up/down/left/right a couple of time and 'ok'.

All of which I'd have to do in addition to the steps you gave.


So we're still talking a difference in pure effort that can be measured in seconds or, at worst, a couple of minutes for the sake of not waiting months to watch something. However this conversation went beyond the point of actually having a point a good few posts ago so it's probably best we both just stop talking about it.
Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:35 ]
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That's odd, my point still seems to be there. check your browser settings?

Or maybe I'm not a normal enough human being to see it vanish. Yes, that's probably it.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
BikNorton wrote:
Or now, if C4 wasn't shit.

Adverts, though. Bleh.
Author:  Bamba [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 14:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
BikNorton wrote:
That's odd, my point still seems to be there. check your browser settings?

Or maybe I'm not a normal enough human being to see it vanish. Yes, that's probably it.


That's what's got your goat? Seriously?

Okay, fair enough, I apologise for implying you're not a normal human being; it was just a bit of colourful phrasing not intended to have any actual meaning behind it and I'm sorry if I've caused any offence.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 19:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Streaming online isn't illegal for the person watching it (thank you UK court system!), which is why it's great.

Really? When did this change? Is this irrelevant of the source?
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 19:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
There was a case in the last year or so that made it clear that the temp caching of something isn't "copying" for the purposes of the copyrights and whatsits act.

It makes sense, as otherwise you've got no idea whether you're allowed to be watching a particular thing on Youtube.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 21:00 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
There was a case in the last year or so that made it clear that the temp caching of something isn't "copying" for the purposes of the copyrights and whatsits act.

It makes sense, as otherwise you've got no idea whether you're allowed to be watching a particular thing on Youtube.


"If it's pushing out, then nothing is going in" said my friend once.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 21:13 ]
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gospvg wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
http://www.solarmovie.so


Oh! not seen that, it's not a spyware infested streaming service is it?


Guess what my wife found today?
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 21:24 ]
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Your porn stash?
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 21:26 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Your porn stash?


"My friend told me where I could watch Gray' s Anatomy and.."

Fucking Gray' s.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue Oct 22, 2013 21:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
MaliA wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
Your porn stash?


"My friend told me where I could watch Gray' s Anatomy and.."

Fucking Gray' s.
Hahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahahah!

Fantastic.
Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 23:59 ]
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So, been slowly watching this and just finished ep9.

This is basically Fringe again, isn't it? But with a Buffy style cast.

Entertaining enough, but not amazing.
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 0:21 ]
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Bamba wrote:
If by 'like Fringe' you mean 'very little like Fringe' then yeah, absolutely.


Each episode starts with a person or people afflicted by a strange phenomenon.

Each episode then goes on to explain this by means of 'fringe science'.

Each series follows a government team tasked with dealing with weird, non-normal things.

Each series deals with people travelling between dimensions, whilst remaining largely set in the present.

Each series has characters with complicated back stories that reveal hidden depths as time goes by.

Each series has a great nemesis agency or force that they clash with, often obliquely.

Each series has a quirky person or persons in a lab who tries to solve everything using 'fringe science'.

But, yeah, not even vaguely similar.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
I'd deleted my post almost immediately because, after thinking about it some more, I realised there are some similarities in the set up of the two. I still don't think the two series are particularly comparable aside from a few surface details; they just don't feel the same in execution to me and one never came to my mind from the other. Certainly I think saying one is 'just the other' is generalising massively. So, while I do agree with some of your comparisons there (and others you're seriously stretching) I still don't think it's true to say they're the same.
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:21 ]
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I watched the first couple, but haven't had the desire to watch anymore yet. I'll probably save it up to watch on the train, as it seems the perfect commuting show. i.e. not too taxing, easy to watch, non-offensive.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Trooper wrote:
I watched the first couple, but haven't had the desire to watch anymore yet. I'll probably save it up to watch on the train, as it seems the perfect commuting show. i.e. not too taxing, easy to watch, non-offensive.


Even for a show at that level I found it too boring to continue with and dropped it. I'll happily switch my brain off to watch Castle, Blue Bloods or While Collar but this was a step too bland.
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 13:00 ]
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I think just the last couple of episodes (8 and 9) in particular just 'felt' the same from the opening scene.

"Oh look, there's a person. I wonder what mental shit will happen to them in the next 30 seconds, which will appear to be magic, but revealed as weird science by the eccentric scientist(s)"

That's more related to the first series or two of Fringe, of course, rather than the clusterfuck of later vintages.
Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 18:21 ]
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I miss Fringe :( This is the downside to waiting on Netflix UK.

Not as annoying as the shitcakes going on with randomly disappearing/reappearing parts of Warehouse 13 season 4 though.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Mar 26, 2014 23:31 ]
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So, I'm just catching up with this.
So far, it's hovering between "good" and "okay". I've spotted a Dollhouse reference in Episode 8, but no others anywhere else.

It's like it's warming up to something really good in the next episode each week, if you see what I mean.
Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 0:07 ]
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The ones either side of the mid-season break were the best two.
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 16:16 ]
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So... this has got very interesting now. Nice the way it links up with the winter soldier film. :)
Author:  Malc [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 16:38 ]
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I'm watching at UK pace with my kids, and I think it's got better, although the last one, I think would have worked better over 2-3 episodes.

Malc
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 17:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
I've been watching this but now have the annoying dilemma of whether to keep watching despite not having seen the Winter Soldier.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 17:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Curiosity wrote:
I've been watching this but now have the annoying dilemma of whether to keep watching despite not having seen the Winter Soldier.

Go and see the Winter Soldier like I just did. It's pretty good, and it's going to mean some big changes to AOS.
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 17:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Episode 17 heavily spoils the film, so if you want to see it I would recommend stopping the TV series at episode 16
Author:  Malc [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 17:54 ]
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Where does it "fit" though?

The "Thor" episode fitted quite nicely after I saw Thor 2 at the cinema about the week it came out, but back then the UK and US were on the same schedule.

Now, Captain America came out over here before it came out in the US, but AoS is behind the US now...

Very annoying.

Malc
Author:  Malc [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 17:56 ]
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Hmmm

A very careful look on wikipedia suggest the UK is only two episodes behind the US, that's not so bad, not so bad at all.

Malc
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 18:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
15 is just before the film, 16 is during, 17 is just after.
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 18:04 ]
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Cool. I've watched up to 13, I think. Might see if I can sneak out tomorrow night.
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 18:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Trooper wrote:
15 is just before the film, 16 is during, 17 is just after.


So I should watch 15 before the film, and 16 and 17 after? Or should I watch half the film, then 16, then the rest of the film? ;)
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 18:25 ]
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Watch 16 on your phone in the cinema.
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 18:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Cool. But is it 15-film-16 or 15-16-film?
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 19:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Curiosity wrote:
Cool. But is it 15-film-16 or 15-16-film?


Doesn't really matter, I went 15-film-16 and some of the minor throwaway comments in 16 made more sense, but nothing was spoiled either way.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 20:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
15 16 Film. 16 happens during the beginning of the film, before the "big thing" happens. 17 is during the "big thing".
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 20:15 ]
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To be honest, I'm not quite sure how the series can carry on now.
Author:  Firefox [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 20:43 ]
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Apparently the episode that was on C4 on Friday was number 15...
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 20:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Grim... wrote:
To be honest, I'm not quite sure how the series can carry on now.


Oooooh, exciting!
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:22 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
I have now watched up to ep16, and am going to see the film on Tuesday. It's rather entertaining at the moment :)
Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
I also watched the first Cap film to get more backstory.

Is it worth watching the second Thor movie beforehand, or is there nothing of relevance in it? If not I'm going to rewatch Avengers tonight instead.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
If you've seen the episodes that relate to Thor 2, then there's not point in watching it (at least, not yet).
Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:38 ]
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Cool.

Getting quite into all of this, but I almost always seem to find the source material comic books to be disappointing.
Author:  Bamba [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Curiosity wrote:
Cool.

Getting quite into all of this, but I almost always seem to find the source material comic books to be disappointing.


What comics do you mean? I didn't think the TV series was drawing any plots from the comics?
Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Bamba wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Cool.

Getting quite into all of this, but I almost always seem to find the source material comic books to be disappointing.


What comics do you mean? I didn't think the TV series was drawing any plots from the comics?


Comics in general, not AoS specifically.
Author:  Bamba [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Curiosity wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Cool.

Getting quite into all of this, but I almost always seem to find the source material comic books to be disappointing.


What comics do you mean? I didn't think the TV series was drawing any plots from the comics?


Comics in general, not AoS specifically.


Not really the source material then strictly speaking. Anyway, your best is to look for runs by certain writers. The quality of comics is as variable as any other medium's output of course and there's some real dross out there (99% of DCs current output, I'm looking at you). As each character/series has a (relatively) regularly rotating cast of writers and artists there's no guarantee of quality even if you read stuff for the 'flagship' characters or teams. Certain writers will tend to deliver good stuff regardless of which character/series they're working on at any given moment though so that's probably the best way to dip a toe in my opinion. And if you're just generally struggling to get into the whole comics thing it might be an idea to look at non-superhero stuff as an intro rather than going straight to capes and tights.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Apr 28, 2014 13:04 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Just read Deadpool comics.

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Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Apr 29, 2014 0:13 ]
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Just watched Avengers again. Most fun.

Ruffalo as Dr Banner really is superb. Conveys fantastically the fragility and fear of his alter ego.

Still annoys me how The Hulk magically changes from monster that will attack his friends to best buddies though.
Author:  NervousPete [ Tue Apr 29, 2014 0:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Agents of Shield
Curiosity wrote:
Just watched Avengers again. Most fun.

Ruffalo as Dr Banner really is superb. Conveys fantastically the fragility and fear of his alter ego.

Still annoys me how The Hulk magically changes from monster that will attack his friends to best buddies though.


I :luv: Ruffalo in that film. :)
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