Be Excellent To Each Other

Channel motherfucking 4. What the fuck only 7 days online per episode?

Why the fuck would they accept that licence? It's not even worth the fucking money surely?

They should just shut everything but 4 and 4+1 and spend more on online licences.

Now I'm just going to have to wait for it to be on Netflix and fuck 4 in the face, the only thing I want to watch on it and I fucking can't.

I'm not as angry as all the naughty words might suggest.

Just torrent it like a normal human being.

Yes, going to effort is much easier than waiting until it's no effort.

If torrenting is effort, I think you're doing it wrong.

You can join my PlexServer if you like. It hates you unless your name isn't "Craster", and then it works quite well.

Do a search, click a link, wait for download to complete, done. The amount of effort you could possibly save over that process is measured in seconds and I don't believe anyone is that busy.

If you're starting from scratch you have to get the client, too, and possibly some codecs to make it go, so it is a little more effort that 4od.

4oD makes you sit through 5 hours of adverts for every 10 minutes of telly, so you need to balance it out.

Torrenting is illegal so it may be a moral choice.

He said it was an effort related thing so I'm just taking him at his word until/unless more info comes to light.

Streaming online isn't illegal for the person watching it (thank you UK court system!), which is why it's great.

yes, much less effort than sitting of the sofa, pressing the ps3 button on the remote, pressing Netflix, pressing up/down/left/right a couple of time and 'ok'.

All of which I'd have to do in addition to the steps you gave.

The legality thing is a minor issue.

In June 2014

Or now, if C4 wasn't shit.

So we're still talking a difference in pure effort that can be measured in seconds or, at worst, a couple of minutes for the sake of not waiting months to watch something. However this conversation went beyond the point of actually having a point a good few posts ago so it's probably best we both just stop talking about it.

That's odd, my point still seems to be there. check your browser settings?

Or maybe I'm not a normal enough human being to see it vanish. Yes, that's probably it.

Adverts, though. Bleh.

That's what's got your goat? Seriously?

Okay, fair enough, I apologise for implying you're not a normal human being; it was just a bit of colourful phrasing not intended to have any actual meaning behind it and I'm sorry if I've caused any offence.

Really? When did this change? Is this irrelevant of the source?

There was a case in the last year or so that made it clear that the temp caching of something isn't "copying" for the purposes of the copyrights and whatsits act.

It makes sense, as otherwise you've got no idea whether you're allowed to be watching a particular thing on Youtube.

"If it's pushing out, then nothing is going in" said my friend once.

Guess what my wife found today?

Your porn stash?

"My friend told me where I could watch Gray' s Anatomy and.."

Fucking Gray' s.

Hahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahahah!

Fantastic.

So, been slowly watching this and just finished ep9.

This is basically Fringe again, isn't it? But with a Buffy style cast.

Entertaining enough, but not amazing.

Each episode starts with a person or people afflicted by a strange phenomenon.

Each episode then goes on to explain this by means of 'fringe science'.

Each series follows a government team tasked with dealing with weird, non-normal things.

Each series deals with people travelling between dimensions, whilst remaining largely set in the present.

Each series has characters with complicated back stories that reveal hidden depths as time goes by.

Each series has a great nemesis agency or force that they clash with, often obliquely.

Each series has a quirky person or persons in a lab who tries to solve everything using 'fringe science'.

But, yeah, not even vaguely similar.

I'd deleted my post almost immediately because, after thinking about it some more, I realised there are some similarities in the set up of the two. I still don't think the two series are particularly comparable aside from a few surface details; they just don't feel the same in execution to me and one never came to my mind from the other. Certainly I think saying one is 'just the other' is generalising massively. So, while I do agree with some of your comparisons there (and others you're seriously stretching) I still don't think it's true to say they're the same.

I watched the first couple, but haven't had the desire to watch anymore yet. I'll probably save it up to watch on the train, as it seems the perfect commuting show. i.e. not too taxing, easy to watch, non-offensive.

Even for a show at that level I found it too boring to continue with and dropped it. I'll happily switch my brain off to watch Castle, Blue Bloods or While Collar but this was a step too bland.

I think just the last couple of episodes (8 and 9) in particular just 'felt' the same from the opening scene.

"Oh look, there's a person. I wonder what mental shit will happen to them in the next 30 seconds, which will appear to be magic, but revealed as weird science by the eccentric scientist(s)"

That's more related to the first series or two of Fringe, of course, rather than the clusterfuck of later vintages.

I miss Fringe This is the downside to waiting on Netflix UK.

Not as annoying as the shitcakes going on with randomly disappearing/reappearing parts of Warehouse 13 season 4 though.

So, I'm just catching up with this.
So far, it's hovering between "good" and "okay". I've spotted a Dollhouse reference in Episode 8, but no others anywhere else.

It's like it's warming up to something really good in the next episode each week, if you see what I mean.

The ones either side of the mid-season break were the best two.

So... this has got very interesting now. Nice the way it links up with the winter soldier film.

I'm watching at UK pace with my kids, and I think it's got better, although the last one, I think would have worked better over 2-3 episodes.

Malc

I've been watching this but now have the annoying dilemma of whether to keep watching despite not having seen the Winter Soldier.

Go and see the Winter Soldier like I just did. It's pretty good, and it's going to mean some big changes to AOS.

Episode 17 heavily spoils the film, so if you want to see it I would recommend stopping the TV series at episode 16

Where does it "fit" though?

The "Thor" episode fitted quite nicely after I saw Thor 2 at the cinema about the week it came out, but back then the UK and US were on the same schedule.

Now, Captain America came out over here before it came out in the US, but AoS is behind the US now...

Very annoying.

Malc

Hmmm

A very careful look on wikipedia suggest the UK is only two episodes behind the US, that's not so bad, not so bad at all.

Malc

15 is just before the film, 16 is during, 17 is just after.

Cool. I've watched up to 13, I think. Might see if I can sneak out tomorrow night.

So I should watch 15 before the film, and 16 and 17 after? Or should I watch half the film, then 16, then the rest of the film?

Watch 16 on your phone in the cinema.

Cool. But is it 15-film-16 or 15-16-film?

Doesn't really matter, I went 15-film-16 and some of the minor throwaway comments in 16 made more sense, but nothing was spoiled either way.

15 16 Film. 16 happens during the beginning of the film, before the "big thing" happens. 17 is during the "big thing".

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how the series can carry on now.

Apparently the episode that was on C4 on Friday was number 15...

Oooooh, exciting!