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SMB (it's just occured to me, is it designed to share the same initials with Super Mario Bros?) is as good as ever on Vita



Probably not. There was a Meat Boy before Super Meat Boy.

There was a Mario Bros before Super Mario Bros.

But how often is it referred to as MB? Not that I ever recall.

I don't think Meat Boy is referred to as MB either. Look at the correlation!

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Future Warrior wrote:
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SMB (it's just occured to me, is it designed to share the same initials with Super Mario Bros?) is as good as ever on Vita



Probably not. There was a Meat Boy before Super Meat Boy.

There was a Mario Bros before Super Mario Bros.

But how often is it referred to as MB? Not that I ever recall.

I don't think Meat Boy is referred to as MB either. Look at the correlation!

Yes, the point I'm making is that they didn't pick the name of the character to match marios acronym. :roll:


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Cor the Vita offerings this month were dire, weren't they?


Super Meat Boy / Broken Age are both Vita as well


SMB (it's just occured to me, is it designed to share the same initials with Super Mario Bros?) is as good as ever on Vita. In fact, I prefer the format, it's more of a pick-up-and-play/pick-up-and-chuck-the-Vita-against-the-bathroom-wall kind of a game.

Broken Age also seems nice - but I keep getting an error message kicking me out of the game after 10 minutes of playing. Anyone else having similar problems on the Vita?

Yeah, I can't get BA to work on Vita, I keep getting the cursor stuck in the bottom left and it is continually active as an input, so skips all cuts scenes, clicks buttons if they happen to coincide with the cursor location, etc.


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SMB (it's just occured to me, is it designed to share the same initials with Super Mario Bros?) is as good as ever on Vita



Probably not. There was a Meat Boy before Super Meat Boy.

There was a Mario Bros before Super Mario Bros.

But how often is it referred to as MB? Not that I ever recall.

I don't think Meat Boy is referred to as MB either. Look at the correlation!

Yes, the point I'm making is that they didn't pick the name of the character to match marios acronym. :roll:

How do you know this? Are you friends with the developer?

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Bobbyaro wrote:
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Cor the Vita offerings this month were dire, weren't they?


Super Meat Boy / Broken Age are both Vita as well


SMB (it's just occured to me, is it designed to share the same initials with Super Mario Bros?) is as good as ever on Vita. In fact, I prefer the format, it's more of a pick-up-and-play/pick-up-and-chuck-the-Vita-against-the-bathroom-wall kind of a game.

Broken Age also seems nice - but I keep getting an error message kicking me out of the game after 10 minutes of playing. Anyone else having similar problems on the Vita?

Yeah, I can't get BA to work on Vita, I keep getting the cursor stuck in the bottom left and it is continually active as an input, so skips all cuts scenes, clicks buttons if they happen to coincide with the cursor location, etc.


The problem you're having sounds like it could be to do with the rear touchpad. Is that activated?

I've found that powering down my Vita (probably the first time in six months) and trying again has led to error-free Broken Ageage.

It's a really lovely little game, though would like a little more depth to the puzzles. Don't have the patience for anything as involved as something like Grim Fandango these days, but there's a happy medium to shoot for.

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The what now?!

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The what now?!

The rear touchpad.

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rear touchpad

The what now?!

The rear touchpad.

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aka as a brilliantly pointless feature. Whatever usefulness it promised in finessed controls was eradicated by that fact one's fat fingers are always resting on it. What with it being a handheld device and everything.


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I rest my fingers on the finger rests.


Do you? I don't even have big hands, but I feel like my fingers are constantly pawing the touchpad. The finger rests look like they want your fingertips in them, but that means one's hands are sticking too far out, like you're gingerly carrying a crab.


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It is used to represent the goal in FIFA, so when you shoot, you touch (and hold for power) on the touch pad in the area of the goal you want to shoot. That soon trains you not to rest your fingers there!


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It is used to represent the goal in FIFA, so when you shoot, you touch (and hold for power) on the touch pad in the area of the goal you want to shoot. That soon trains you not to rest your fingers there!


That' was why I quickly turned off the touchpad. While I really liked that use-case in Fifa, I couldn't be bothered challenging my muscle memory in that way.


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I rest my fingers on the finger rests.

My hands are far too big :(

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It is used to represent the goal in FIFA, so when you shoot, you touch (and hold for power) on the touch pad in the area of the goal you want to shoot. That soon trains you not to rest your fingers there!


That' was why I quickly turned off the touchpad. While I really liked that use-case in Fifa, I couldn't be bothered challenging my muscle memory in that way.

Yeah, I got FIFA as I bought the Vita so had no real issue with that. I still think slightly deeper finger rests would be better.


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I rest my fingers on the finger rests.


Do you? I don't even have big hands, but I feel like my fingers are constantly pawing the touchpad. The finger rests look like they want your fingertips in them, but that means one's hands are sticking too far out, like you're gingerly carrying a crab.

If you've got your index fingers resting on the shoulder buttons I can't imagine it being comfortable not having your fingertips on them...

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Future Warrior wrote:
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I rest my fingers on the finger rests.


Do you? I don't even have big hands, but I feel like my fingers are constantly pawing the touchpad. The finger rests look like they want your fingertips in them, but that means one's hands are sticking too far out, like you're gingerly carrying a crab.

If you've got your index fingers resting on the shoulder buttons I can't imagine it being comfortable not having your fingertips on them...


Hmm. I'm going to investigate in the toilets.


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Hmm. I'm going to investigate in the toilets.

Be careful - you never know what you might find.

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Hmm. I'm going to investigate in the toilets.

Be careful - you never know what you might find.


I'll tell you what I found. I found that you're freaks. You must be balancing the Vita on your hands, all delicate, like. Whereas I prefer to clutch its round corners into the flesh of palms.


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I agree with Findus. On everything. But especially holding a Vita in my boney claws.


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Last night I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus. On PS Now.

Never played it before. 20 minutes later, I've still never played it.

Lots of lovely intro, horse riding across improbable bridges, putting some person on a slab who you could well have, for all I know, murdered down an alley. Some shadowy types appear, I'm informed I own an Ancient Sword (yeah but I just bought a faster PC than Sat), then PS Now cacks out.

No option but to start again.

A shame as I'd like to play SOTC. But I don't think my internet/PS Now is up to it yet.

Will cancel the trial will in a few days, no doubt.


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Last night I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus. On PS Now.

Never played it before. 20 minutes later, I've still never played it.

Lots of lovely intro, horse riding across improbable bridges, putting some person on a slab who you could well have, for all I know, murdered down an alley. Some shadowy types appear, I'm informed I own an Ancient Sword (yeah but I just bought a faster PC than Sat), then PS Now cacks out.

No option but to start again.

A shame as I'd like to play SOTC. But I don't think my internet/PS Now is up to it yet.

Will cancel the trial will in a few days, no doubt.


I might try it over the weekend and see how my net connection fares with it. I don't think there's really any previous gen games I massively want to play so I'm not interested in paying for it, but I'm curious enough about the capabilities of the technology to give the free trial a go.


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Last night I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus. On PS Now.

Never played it before. 20 minutes later, I've still never played it.

Lots of lovely intro, horse riding across improbable bridges, putting some person on a slab who you could well have, for all I know, murdered down an alley. Some shadowy types appear, I'm informed I own an Ancient Sword (yeah but I just bought a faster PC than Sat), then PS Now cacks out.

No option but to start again.

A shame as I'd like to play SOTC. But I don't think my internet/PS Now is up to it yet.

Will cancel the trial will in a few days, no doubt.


I might try it over the weekend and see how my net connection fares with it. I don't think there's really any previous gen games I massively want to play so I'm not interested in paying for it, but I'm curious enough about the capabilities of the technology to give the free trial a go.


That's the thing, as a last-gen 360 chap (the great lost Avril Lasagana song), there's much for me to enjoy from the PS3 back catalogue. But with my oft-ropey Plusnet connection and the ticket price of £12.99 a month, I can't justify it. With a rock-solid internet connection and the addition of more Ps4 games in the future, it could be great.


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Last night I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus. On PS Now.

Never played it before. 20 minutes later, I've still never played it.

Lots of lovely intro, horse riding across improbable bridges, putting some person on a slab who you could well have, for all I know, murdered down an alley. Some shadowy types appear, I'm informed I own an Ancient Sword (yeah but I just bought a faster PC than Sat), then PS Now cacks out.

No option but to start again.

A shame as I'd like to play SOTC. But I don't think my internet/PS Now is up to it yet.

Will cancel the trial will in a few days, no doubt.


I might try it over the weekend and see how my net connection fares with it. I don't think there's really any previous gen games I massively want to play so I'm not interested in paying for it, but I'm curious enough about the capabilities of the technology to give the free trial a go.


That's the thing, as a last-gen 360 chap (the great lost Avril Lasagana song), there's much for me to enjoy from the PS3 back catalogue. But with my oft-ropey Plusnet connection and the ticket price of £12.99 a month, I can't justify it. With a rock-solid internet connection and the addition of more Ps4 games in the future, it could be great.


I'd be very surprised if you ever get PS4 games on there; they're not going to want to cannibalise the hardware sales (at least until the PS5 comes out of course).

For the PS3 stuff you're better off just picking up a second hand PS3 and doing it properly; which is well worth doing as there were a lot of really good PS3 exclusives last gen.


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Bamba wrote:
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Bamba wrote:
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Last night I tried playing Shadow of the Colossus. On PS Now.

Never played it before. 20 minutes later, I've still never played it.

Lots of lovely intro, horse riding across improbable bridges, putting some person on a slab who you could well have, for all I know, murdered down an alley. Some shadowy types appear, I'm informed I own an Ancient Sword (yeah but I just bought a faster PC than Sat), then PS Now cacks out.

No option but to start again.

A shame as I'd like to play SOTC. But I don't think my internet/PS Now is up to it yet.

Will cancel the trial will in a few days, no doubt.


I might try it over the weekend and see how my net connection fares with it. I don't think there's really any previous gen games I massively want to play so I'm not interested in paying for it, but I'm curious enough about the capabilities of the technology to give the free trial a go.


That's the thing, as a last-gen 360 chap (the great lost Avril Lasagana song), there's much for me to enjoy from the PS3 back catalogue. But with my oft-ropey Plusnet connection and the ticket price of £12.99 a month, I can't justify it. With a rock-solid internet connection and the addition of more Ps4 games in the future, it could be great.


I'd be very surprised if you ever get PS4 games on there; they're not going to want to cannibalise the hardware sales (at least until the PS5 comes out of course).

For the PS3 stuff you're better off just picking up a second hand PS3 and doing it properly; which is well worth doing as there were a lot of really good PS3 exclusives last gen.


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PS Plus continues to baffle and entertain me. A section of gamers with a shiny state of the art hyper powerful PS4 might think it'd be pointless to convert a mobile game to the big screen. And yet Unmechanical has made it and, yes, it's not exactly showing off the capabilities of your fancy new system. Yet I've sat down and completed the main story from beginning to end today because it was so charming and entertaining (and short, aye?) that it'd be rude not to. A mobile port it might be (I've never played the mobile version by the way but I've seen it about) but it was bloody lovely and it even has an extra campaign after the main campaign which I've just started because I want some more of it.

So even though there's no big release this month I still find PS Plus a massively worthwhile amount of pennies just because of the variety of stuff on offer.

So, yeah, Unmechanical is ace.


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I played the mobile version, it was very good.


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Although, it was a PC game before it was anything else so what you've got there isn't likely to be a mobile port but a conversion of the Windows game.


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That'd either a) been eating away at you for thirty minutes or b) you'd gone off to research it.

BUT WHICH WAS IT?


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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

At the end of my PS3 era it was amazing for mopping up AAA titles I'd missed due to being a 360 owner.

Just saying, like.

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That'd either a) been eating away at you for thirty minutes or b) you'd gone off to research it.

BUT WHICH WAS IT?


Neither! And both!

Actually the first post was made on the train coming back from my folks' house just before my mobile data connection dropped so I waited until I got home to check that there was actually a PC version as I thought and then post about it. I bet you're utterly fascinated by that exciting story aren't you?


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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

Obviously it can't be as generous as a few years ago, with a seven year deep PS3 games catalog to pull from. But as long as you're getting any games at all it's still a lot more generous than Xbox Live was, which we all renewed every year.


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Bamba wrote:
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That'd either a) been eating away at you for thirty minutes or b) you'd gone off to research it.

BUT WHICH WAS IT?


Neither! And both!

Actually the first post was made on the train coming back from my folks' house just before my mobile data connection dropped so I waited until I got home to check that there was actually a PC version as I thought and then post about it. I bet you're utterly fascinated by that exciting story aren't you?


I've been pressing refresh every couple of seconds.


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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

Obviously it can't be as generous as a few years ago, with a seven year deep PS3 games catalog to pull from. But as long as you're getting any games at all it's still a lot more generous than Xbox Live was, which we all renewed every year.

I know, but my Live sub was for Bezzie gaming. Don't think I've used PS+ even 1% as much for multiplayer shinanigans.

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Zardoz wrote:
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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

Obviously it can't be as generous as a few years ago, with a seven year deep PS3 games catalog to pull from. But as long as you're getting any games at all it's still a lot more generous than Xbox Live was, which we all renewed every year.

I know, but my Live sub was for Bezzie gaming. Don't think I've used PS+ even 1% as much for multiplayer shinanigans.

Well that's silly. You should at least play Rocket League with us.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

Obviously it can't be as generous as a few years ago, with a seven year deep PS3 games catalog to pull from. But as long as you're getting any games at all it's still a lot more generous than Xbox Live was, which we all renewed every year.

Xbox Live gives you games. This month you get Tomb Raider for the Bone and MGS5 for the 360, among others.

PS+ was the first to do it, but it didn't take Xbox that long to catch on (about a year, I think).

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Grim... wrote:
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I'm finding ps+ on the PS4 really underwhelming.

Obviously it can't be as generous as a few years ago, with a seven year deep PS3 games catalog to pull from. But as long as you're getting any games at all it's still a lot more generous than Xbox Live was, which we all renewed every year.

Xbox Live gives you games. This month you get Tomb Raider for the Bone and MGS5 for the 360, among others.

PS+ was the first to do it, but it didn't take Xbox that long to catch on (about a year, I think).

Yes, but not in our Xbox Live heyday when we all paid for it to play with each other and didn't get free games.

And it was longer than a year. PS Plus was around for about a year before any of us really paid attention to it. Three years according to these wiki articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... America%29
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Plus also, when they started doing it, the games they offered were old games that everyone had already played. And if they didn't cost about £2 in the second hand stores.


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/10/ ... r=36969785

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The Walking Dead Season 2 (PS4)
Magicka 2 (PS4)
Dragon Fin Soup (PS4, PS Vita, PS3)
Mass Effect 2 (PS3)
Beyond Good and Evil (PS3)
inviZimals (PS Vita)


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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ooh... Magicka 2? That looks immensely bezzie-able


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man that store is slow...

and i would have liked mass effect on the ps4 i guess...

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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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Findus Fop wrote:

I've found that powering down my Vita (probably the first time in six months) and trying again has led to error-free Broken Ageage.

It's a really lovely little game, though would like a little more depth to the puzzles.


I take it all back. I'm in Act 2 and I'm hitting illogical puzzle after illogical puzzle. It's frustrating as the solution to the problem is often apparent, but the systems and the way you go about achieving it are often hidden or unguessable.

Still worth playing, as it looks beautiful and is genuinely well-written (as one would expect). Dutch the Knife is particularly memorable, a kindred spirit to Murray the Skull.


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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Did you ever sort out your Shadow of the Colossus issue? I noted the other day that it was one of the most rented from Playstation Now.


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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Saturnalian wrote:
Did you ever sort out your Shadow of the Colossus issue? I noted the other day that it was one of the most rented from Playstation Now.


I didn't try again, I put it down to having an internet connection that was too flaky. Cancelled the Now trial before I forgot.

Now have a new ISP, so I may look into it again.


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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Gauntlet: Slayer Edition (PS4)
King’s Quest – Chapter 1: A Knight to Remember (PS4)
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon (PS3)
SSX (PS3)
Rocketbirds Hardboilded (PS Vita)
Freedom Wars (PS Vita)


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 Post subject: Re: The PS Plus thread
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zaphod79 wrote:
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/11/25/new-on-playstation-plus-in-december-gauntlet-kings-quest-more/?emcid=social_20151125_55664976&adbid=669553508413104128&adbpl=tw&adbpr=36969785

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Gauntlet: Slayer Edition (PS4)
King’s Quest – Chapter 1: A Knight to Remember (PS4)
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon (PS3)
SSX (PS3)
Rocketbirds Hardboilded (PS Vita)
Freedom Wars (PS Vita)


nice! Happy with those.


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