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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 13:22 
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It always seemed a strange omission to me to leave those out of the standard PS3 packages.

Which of the 360 packages have headsets in? None of mine did.


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I'll probably resist for a while, and then buy whatever the most people have. Unless it's a Wii-U. That can bugger off.


:this:

It's what I did with the 360. And it worked out quite well although I wish I'd had it 6 months earlier.


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markg wrote:
It always seemed a strange omission to me to leave those out of the standard PS3 packages.

Which of the 360 packages have headsets in? None of mine did.


Mine did. Also came with the wireless controller if that helps.

Don't ask me what package it was. I have no recollection at all.


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Yeah, both of mine did.


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markg wrote:
It always seemed a strange omission to me to leave those out of the standard PS3 packages.

Which of the 360 packages have headsets in? None of mine did.

Mine did. Also came with the wireless controller if that helps.

I'm also fairly sure mine did, but it was a fucking long time ago now, so maybe not.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It always seemed a strange omission to me to leave those out of the standard PS3 packages.

Which of the 360 packages have headsets in? None of mine did.

My original white 360 and my resident evil red 360 came with controllers and headsets.

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Both of my bought-at-retail 360s were Core/Arcade units. That's probably why I didn't get headsets.


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chinnyhill10 wrote:
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It always seemed a strange omission to me to leave those out of the standard PS3 packages.

Which of the 360 packages have headsets in? None of mine did.

Mine did. Also came with the wireless controller if that helps.

I'm also fairly sure mine did, but it was a fucking long time ago now, so maybe not.


Mine is a Xbox 360 S, it came with 2 controllers but only one headset

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A concern I have at present is that if there is a mass switchover to the PS4 (fine by me, I have no fanboy loyalties), will all our 'gamertag' names already be taken?

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A concern I have at present is that if there is a mass switchover to the PS4 (fine by me, I have no fanboy loyalties), will all our 'gamertag' names already be taken?


*lightbulb moment*

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Both of my bought-at-retail 360s were Core/Arcade units. That's probably why I didn't get headsets.

That's almost certainly correct as both machines I bought at retail had headsets, neither of which were the Core/Arcade units.

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Mine came with a headset. I don't know what it was, though.

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Curiosity wrote:
A concern I have at present is that if there is a mass switchover to the PS4 (fine by me, I have no fanboy loyalties), will all our 'gamertag' names already be taken?

Depends on how generic you are.

Mine was available.


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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
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Mr Dave wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
A concern I have at present is that if there is a mass switchover to the PS4 (fine by me, I have no fanboy loyalties), will all our 'gamertag' names already be taken?

Depends on how generic you are.

Mine was available.


Whereas mines was not when I got a PS3 (which i had before the Xbox) - i think its probably just that i grabbed it at some point in the past via the Playstation website at the time and could never remember which email address was linked to it so I have a random PSN name


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I use the same as on my Xbox... TheXboxVision.


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I use the same as on my Xbox... TheXboxVision.


Never play Call of Duty with voice chat enabled. Screaming children will abuse you.

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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
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Curiosity wrote:
Never play Call of Duty with voice chat enabled. Screaming children will abuse you.


That is of course regardless of system , gamertag or anything else :-)

Ways to watch / catch up on the reveal

http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xboxr ... -to-watch/

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Watch the main event today at 1p ET/10a PT/17:00 GMT via the live global stream that will be available on Xbox LIVE and Xbox.com. If you are in the US or Canada, you can also watch the broadcast on Spike TV.

Note: The Xbox.com version should be viewable on most mobile devices.

If you have a Windows Phone 8, download the free Live Event Player to view watch the stream.

The full show will be available later in the day for viewing via video on demand on Xbox.com and Xbox LIVE.

PLUS later today at 3p ET/12n PT/19:00 GMT I am hosting a special #XbxoReveal recap show that will ONLY be streamed on Twitch.tv During this time I’ll be joined by guests who will go into more detail about our #XboxReveal announcements. This will be available later in the day on Twitch.tv for playback as well.

If you can’t join us for the live event, you can follow me on Twitter where I’ll be sharing the news throughout the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
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More locations to watch the stream some have pre-shows starting in a few minutes :

http://www.twitch.tv/gamespot

http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/ ... /live.html

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hub/reveal

Text and occasional images (but not live video) here for those who cant get a stream to work

http://live.theverge.com/next-xbox-live-blog/

or

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... eveal-live


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That looks nice..

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Intelligent TV. Just the thing that looks cool, but nobody will ever use past a five minute play, and no chance it will be fully working outside the US.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 18:25 
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Just said that to my mate.

I kinda like it.

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EA, that has killed it!

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 18:49 
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*watches stream*

Halo the TV series...

Live Sports TV...

*stops watching stream*

Any news on games yet?

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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
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Not yet... :)

That will be E3 I guess

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Am I the only one wondering whether the aesthetics of the PS4 will beat that monstrosity? I know, I know, it doesn't matter what the box looks like but it's the future, man, tart it up a little.


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I like the shape :)

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is it better than a PC


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Can't really say I'm surprised with the name.


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I'm looking forward to being able to play Forza 1 and Halo 1. Genius.


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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 19:28 
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No backwards comparability confirmed. Pre-owned block confirmed.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/x ... -analysis/


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 Post subject: Re: Xbox reveal today!
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
No backwards comparability confirmed. Pre-owned block confirmed.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/x ... -analysis/

Uncle Mentuss' level of interest in Xbox One confirmed:

https://twitter.com/Mentski/status/336911982584283136



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I'm looking forward to being able to play Forza 1 and Halo 1. Genius.


I never get the backwards compatible thing. My Amiga doesn't play C64 games* so what's the issue? Does the 360 play Xbox 1 games then? I mean Xbox games... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!


* Well it can but not by design.


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Intelligent TV. Just the thing that looks cool, but nobody will ever use past a five minute play, and no chance it will be fully working outside the US.


Just like Siri.

I didn't bother watching the live stream - just waited to read some highlights - and there's nothing that would persuade me to buy one of these instead of a PS4.


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I wrote something quick about Microsoft's media-centric strategy: Xbox One And The Battle For Input One http://actionatadistance.net/post/51007 ... -input-one


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I wrote something quick about Microsoft's media-centric strategy: Xbox One And The Battle For Input One http://actionatadistance.net/post/51007 ... -input-one


Superb writing. Quite turns me off it, though, on a first read.

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I realise there is naturally an element of bombast at these kind of presentations but the whole "It will change the way you...", "Redefining EVERY MOTHER FUCKING THING EVER", "It will change the way football is played" guff was so at odds with the gimmicky trinkets on display followed by the whooping of some Microsoft employees at the back of the hall just made it look like some kind of Onion parody rather than a genuine reveal.

And the whole COD:Ghosts video/presentation was 95% of the devs talking about "next gen" as a generic term for Xbox One/PS4/PC and 5% "oh and some tacked on Kinect shit for Xbox One"

Of course I'll still buy one at some point because I'm a fucking idiot but that doesn't mean it wasn't shit.

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Can someone in the know answer these two questions for me?

Is it always online then or what?
What's the deal with the rumble pack things - two in each shoulder button - so it's got three? Or two - and this gen has only one?


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I wrote something quick about Microsoft's media-centric strategy: Xbox One And The Battle For Input One http://actionatadistance.net/post/51007 ... -input-one


HMDI In question answered it would seem

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-on ... te-device/

PS - I agree with MaliA - that was a damn good read

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Nicely written Doc. I enjoyed that..

I haven't seen the Xbox reveal yet but I've read Twitter about it. To be honest, I would have been shocked if everyone was saying it was great..


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There's two in the current controller, in each of the palm bits of the controller. No idea about the new one.

Also in regards to the pre-owned stuff I wonder how strict it is.

Would services like blockbuster or Lovefilm get special discs or special codes that activate the game for days or months at a time?

Could I for instance just put my user account on my friends Xbox and play my disc on his without the fee? Or a one time fee to link Xboxes?

And on a different note inspired by Google Chrome red underlining the plural of 'Xboxes', would two Xbox Ones be a 'two' and three Xbox Ones be a 'three', and so on?


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I am neither excited not turned off so far.

A resounding "meh" from Grim..., then.

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Worrying news that Quantum Break game is going to be part TV Series like the Halo one mentioned. There was some awful acting and dialogue in the real life segments of that trailer, hope it's not taking from the show.


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Also Microsoft says they enable a way to trade and resell games.

Wonder if it's through the system itself? Trade the game with someone else for 3 quid possibly. Or even get store credit to sell your license.


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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'm looking forward to being able to play Forza 1 and Halo 1. Genius.


I never get the backwards compatible thing. My Amiga doesn't play C64 games* so what's the issue?



In the same way that 25 years ago we used refined olive oil and not virgin olive oil. Time passes and things get better (in general). There's no excuse for not having backward compatibility nowadays, specially since consoles are pretty much chained/cockless PC's.

There's also the technology slowing down factor. After getting an Amiga who the hell wanted to play C64 or Speccy games?


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chinnyhill10 wrote:
Trooper wrote:
I'm looking forward to being able to play Forza 1 and Halo 1. Genius.


I never get the backwards compatible thing. My Amiga doesn't play C64 games* so what's the issue? Does the 360 play Xbox 1 games then? I mean Xbox games... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!


* Well it can but not by design.


The issue is that all the new releases of the various franchises are going to be called one, as opposed to the first one of the series.


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Also on an extremely positive note someone of NeoGAF noticed an orb from Crackdown as one of the tiles in the presentation. The first is still one of my favourite gaming experiences and was pretty much the game that sold this generation of consoles and the XBOX360 to me.

So same again please, less Crackdown 2 though.


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I think RuySan has totally nailed it with that last comment. What I really want on my new games machine is a penis. Perhaps it could stick out the front, generally flaccid but becoming erect during particularly exciting gameplay moments.


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RuySan wrote:
There's no excuse for not having backward compatibility nowadays, specially since consoles are pretty much chained/cockless PC's.

Back compat is remarkably complicated. Emulation takes bags of power because things just can't be optimised like they can on native hardware - try running a Gamecube emulator on a modern PC and you'll see what I mean.

The early PS3 (the only one that could play PS2 games, if I'm not mistaken) worked by effectively including a PS2 alongside the PS3!

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Yep, specially as Xbox was a cheap PC with some custom bits, Xbox 360 was a complicated PowerPC with lots of custom bits, and now Xbox One is back to being a cheap PC but with different custom bits.


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Kinect 2 can read your pulse. From across the room. That's some fucking sci-fi awesome.


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